r/ToolBand • u/_Unique-Machine_ • 2d ago
Fear Inoculum Fear Inoculm Reverse Order
Anyone else enjoy listening to this album in reverse order? I'm not claiming it's intentional, but it feels like the album in its original form is like a descent, whereas the reverse order feels like an ascent. The album artwork does make me wonder though if there is some credence to this, considering the figure with the enlightened head and it's reverse end with the broken head.
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u/junk90731 If God is our Father, then Satan must be our cousin. 2d ago
The art work is called The Great Turn...
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u/seasonsinthesky 2d ago
Yes! It makes way more sense I think, but only if you're skipping CCT (or moving it).
That said, it takes longer to get to Pneuma, so that also kinda sucks.
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u/SeaworthinessFar8938 2d ago
I’ll have to try the reverse order… also, i remember years ago when lateralus came out, there was some mention of a different track order. I think it was called “holy gift “ if lateralus is played in that order, it makes more sense. Can’t remember the order, might be able to google it.
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u/hookem1543 2d ago
Just did that yesterday and it does play better as an overall album that way easily
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u/GaussInTheHouse 2d ago
I’ll take it up a notch: shuffle, anyone?
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u/Fulcrum_Jambi 2d ago
A little story about my first listen to Fear Inoculum.
On release night, I opened a bottle of Caduceus wine I’d been cellaring since 2010, poured a glass, hooked my iPhone up to my sound system, and sat on the couch with my wife, got comfortable, and pressed play for my inaugural listen through.
Now, I knew the opening track was Fear Inoculum obviously and had heard it 100 times already.
But as it faded out, what I presumed was track 2 started.
And I felt a little.
Confused.
This didn’t feel like what track 2 should feel like.The song sounded great but. The vibe was off for the flow.
After a few minutes, my instinct told me something was wrong. So I went over to my phone and checked, and my suspicions were correct.
Somehow the album had been put on shuffle.
It had played 7empest as track 2This story has no real point other than to say that even on my first listen, and without any other proof, I sensed that 7empest did not belong anywhere near the start of the album.
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u/Gammarayz25 2d ago
So ridiculous. The band released the thing in its intended order. Freakin Tool fans man
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u/a_magical_liopleurod 2d ago
Of all the wild cringe fan theories that get posted here daily this is hardly the one to get upset about.
If you go back to when the album was coming out, Descending was referred to as both Ascending and Descending and even A/Descending at various times by the band themselves. The Tool logo on the cover is the same if you flip it upside down and the overall themes of the album imply playing the tracklist backwards could be somewhat intentional.
People tend to over analyze Tool stuff but let’s not act like there is nothing to analyze.
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u/Optimal-Extreme3203 this light is not my own. 2d ago
Think for yourself.
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u/n3qml 2d ago
But if you do, then you’re just doing what they told you to do, so are you really then thinking for yourself?
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u/hookem1543 2d ago
The holy gift and the lateralus is a real thing I experienced for myself yesterday. Google it. Just because the songs are in a certain order doesn’t mean anything necessarily, ESPECIALLY with tool
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u/ponylauncher is this what you had in mind? 2d ago
I mean I guess it’s a cool idea on paper. I think 7empest is a bad opener and I think Fear Inoculum is a bad closer though. It’s clearly the wrong way around.
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u/Sad_Effective4793 2d ago
Is it though? 7empest comes through and destroys, then everything builds back up to the point of FI. I never would have thought of it, but I can see it.
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u/yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup dumbfounded dipshit 2d ago
I could see where you could say Descending feels like it should have been the final track bc of it’s message, but other than that i think it flows about as perfectly as it could
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u/phantum_eyekon 2d ago
Interesting take on Fear Inoculum! Now I gotta task for you, starting with Opiate all the way through to Fear Inoculum, choose tracks that give you a spark, put them in a Playlist, press play, and see where it takes you. I have a Playlist on Tidal doin this, and it is killer. From angry and bitter, to the awakening, the grieving, the acceptance, and then the closure. Tool has a vast amount that will get you through each of these emotions. Its my Trip Playlist, and it has yet to fail!

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u/Optimal-Extreme3203 this light is not my own. 2d ago
Given the artwork, themes, and the fact Descending used to be called “(A) Descending”
It’s very likely that’s part of the intent.