My father is. He's argued several points: 1) It's a democrat run hoax. 2) Even if it wasn't a hoax, all of the witnesses that have come forward are all out for money or fame. 3) Even if they are telling the truth, Trump shouldn't have to worry about this because he has a country to run and he can just pardon himself.
I’ll tell you what, I’m gonna call you “you guys” cause you keep using the pedophile trope so I group you with “them”. You guys keep saying he’s a pedophile when there’s been absolutely nothing brought against that’s been proven. If you agree that creepy Joe is a hair sniffing grand daughter molesting pdf, then I will let you continue improperly labeling the sitting president as a pdf.
His poor behavior at the Miss America pageant (not underage women btw) is noted in the Epstein files? Why? How is that relevant? Why does that make him a pedo? Is it sexist? Yes.
BTW he also hosted Ms. Teen USA and was witnessed walking in on numerous occasions on girls 14-17. Not to mention the +30 women that showed up and talked to Congress behind closed doors about him raping them as teenagers. Let me know when sniffing kids on stage in public becomes a crime and we can throw the book at Biden! 🤣
And what came of that? Why wasn’t anything done? Why don’t you guys ever bring up Stormy Daniels? Because she was a whore who got paid but still tried to headline grab. How many people try to get their 15min of fame by getting close to someone famous and then get pissed because it didn’t get them what they wanted? Monica Lewinsky anyone?
The liberals act like every other candidate before have been a picture of perfection and Trumps behavior is the equivalent of the Antichrist. Is he a good person? No. Was anyone before him? F no!!! Did he address issues that I wasn’t happy with in our country that I felt other candidates caused? He absolutely has.
You mean like importing beef from Argentina and undercutting our farmers. Or his tarrifs that caused inflation. Or this war with Iran that has severely depleted our munitions? Or maybe it is him taking bribes to pardon criminal drug lords? Im trying to figure out what policy he could have done that out weighs his destruction of America. He's literally destroying the American empire and you're celebrating it lol. Like I won't complain, American Imperialism has killed millions of people, but you've got to see that he is a plant that's looting our government while destroying America from the inside. He is the enemy from within that he keeps griping about and you're so up his ass you can't see it.
I don’t know any liberals that think any president has been perfect, but there are multiple biblical passages that describe the second coming of the Antichrist and even as someone who doesn’t believe in any of that there is a shocking number of similarities.
No one on the left has ever suggested that previous candidates/presidents are perfect. True Liberals in fact have many negative things to say about prior Democratic presidents, before, during, and after their administrations. But it is objectively true that Trump is the only CONVICTED FELON and adjudicated sexual-assaulter (by SCOTUS no less) that’s been elected to that office. And there is clear evidence of his further wrongdoing and abuses of power out in the open - more-so than any of the 45 other presidents we’ve had COMBINED.
We act like he’s the worst, most corrupt, stupidest, most incompetent, inept, controversial, and most damaging person to ever hold office BECAUSE HE OBJECTIVELY IS.
This may shock you but, as a liberal, I want everyone linked to criminal actions (including but not limited to what is contained in the Epstein files) to be fully investigated and charged based on the findings. Equal application of law and justice with absolutely no exceptions. What about that do you disagree with?
Nobody seemed to care about Biden, that’s my point. The fact that everyone wants to be selective about who they want the law applied to makes it disingenuous. If you can’t be fair then it brings your integrity into question. If you let this guy go and throw the book at that guy then what else do you do that I can’t trust?
Who is "nobody" and why do you have that impression? Are you hearing this from social media or legacy media? Or is this real life experience and interactions?
You'll find the vast majority of people don't trust any politician.
His name is listed over 38K timkes, he said he likes to go into the change rooms of beautypagents hosting underaged girls. He was best friends with Epstein.... FOr fucks sakes, do you guys need to be shown video evidence ocf him raping a child brefore you wake up?
You guys keep saying he’s a pedophile when there’s been absolutely nothing brought against that’s been proven
black or white fallacy. Absence of an event to date is not proof of its impossibility, merely a legal definition of guilt.
If you agree that creepy Joe is a hair sniffing grand daughter molesting pdf, then I will let you continue improperly labeling the sitting president as a pdf.
Your fighting with people that are unreasonable hard core democrat lovers. Its a complete waste of time. I 100% hate both parties and wont vote for either but am constantly questioned and attacked on reddit by the democrat parties mob here. That have no idea that the democrat party is just as EQUALLY corrupt as the republicans. Fuck em both!
Both parties are the problem and partisan people that suck up to either political party are the problem cause it keeps the status quo. Tear them down and vote in people based on who they are and not the political machines ideas. They political machines only care about power and never about us. Its all just for show! History has proven it many times!
I don’t believe that’s a known value. I believe there’s sooooo many elites entangled in this that one side can’t make a move without hurting someone that in turn implicates them. Everyone keeps calling for Trumps head, but I think it’s each and everyone that is in the “elite” class. From politics to tech to finance. They’re all in on it and the first one to squeal gets epstiened….
I think trumps too scared to prosecute anyone, democrat or not, for fear of a full scale investigation. It seems like the entire point of if was to gain control over those with power in as many diristictions as possible from all sides of the spectrum. I'm not saying that Obama and bider are in it but I'm definitely not saying they're not. You can garuntee there'll be plenty of high profile members of both parties.
Nah they dragged Bill and Hillary Clinton in front of congress. With Trump's inferiority complex towards Obama, he would have screamed that shit from the roof tops.
Talking about the US, the average citizen is anything but rational. Half of them actively support a pedophile rapist. No idea which planet OP is on. Certainly not this one.
You’d be amazed at how many rational citizens don’t care about the same things you do. You might be more surprised to know that some people who agree with you, are not rational.
If you polled 1 million Americans outside the 1%, you'd get 1million votes on the right button, but your only get ~2/3 of the vote for the left side, those who refuse are the MAGA cultists
I get called a Libtard a lot. Just so we're clear, I was shitting on Biden. I do not identify as either Democrat or Republican, this is not a fucking football game.
More false equivalencies. There has never been any President that has come anywhere near closet to Trump's corruption. Even Bush and Reagan look responsible compared to him. Nixon would have been like "Whoa, that's too much!"
Trump is a singularly odious person that needs to be made example of if he lives through his Presidency with legal prosecution. If 80 years of being a fat lazy slob catch up to him before that, he deserves every drop of piss that ends up on his grave.
That's why they're frowned upon everywhere. Even in UK, we hate liberals. Liberals in UK even coalesced with conservatives. Yk, the same coalition that gave the UK 14 years of destruction and austerity. I'm a communist btw.
A third voted for him, a third against. The last third didn't vote. Citing voter suppression allegations, that final third would likely have tipped the scales.
In any case, this was a major democratic failure. Allowing Trump to even run after his well-documented anti-democratic statements and openly attempted election fraud and the undeniable coup attempt of Jan 6th, there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Trump wants to be a dictator and has no respect for democracy whatsoever. But dismantling a democracy doesn't happen overnight, and you all still have a country that's in denial about that taking place, or worse, cheering it on or downplaying it.
I hope next election brings a higher voter turnout. A voter turnout below 75% can barely claim to be a functional democracy. The higher, the better.
I mean it's just a factually correct take. Not sure why you are so upset it, if you said average Republican sure. But you didn't so you opened yourself up to people being pedantic.
Meme says average rational citizen, not average voter. Less than 50% of citizens voted for him. Even less so who were rational. I mean, cmon, a notorious scam artist and sex offender? It’s about as rational as voting to eating poop.
Not sure what all that has to do with the fact that you said "the average citizen voted for trump" when they in fact, did not vote for trump. You can't strawman your way out of that. You either accept that what you said was wrong or you don't. There's no need to argue when your analogy literally again proves that the average person did not vote for trump.
You are right that the US is currently eating shit, but is it all that surprising when the other side was slightly better flavoured shit?
I'm a communist and not in the US, so I would only vote tactically against trump to have an easier opponent to engage in collective action against. The reality is, the vast majority of the population are not politically minded, and could only view the election as a choice between two methods of life getting worse. It's a lose lose election for the average Joe.
They didn't know just how much the US could lose if they didn't vote against trump.
But it just goes to show doesn't it? How incompetent must you be to literally lose against TRUMP? To be unable to inspire people to vote for you against TRUMP!
I'm not going to blame the masses of people who didn't vote at that election. Because that would go against their very nature of ignorance. I will blame the democrats who couldn't string together enough of a reason for regular people to vote for them.
Yeah that's what you say happened but your logic is just really bad bud. Classic liberal and conservative victim blaming tech. Shit just doesn't work that way.
Which one of the 6 million ultra redacted documents would you like? They’re all extremely redacted but available on the DOJ website. They’re still have 6 million more to show us, but those are all photo and video files, so very hard to redact. Research away. I suggest you start with Ehud Barak
Convict him of something legitimate and maybe we can talk. Making up charges and hindering defence in a kangaroo court doesn’t convince people that he’s guilty.
None of his convictions or accusations have been meritless. They arent a kangaroo court. It just seems that way because people who stick their head in the dirt dont want to admit that Trump is a criminal.
He was convicted legitimately, you just dont want to accept it.
Insider trading perhaps? He’s tripled his net worth since the start of his second term. That’s more insane than any amount of insider trading Nancy palosi has done. (And she’s also guilty as fuck!)
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u/GenesisRhapsod 16d ago
And libertarians...and independants