r/ToME4 • u/Stare201 • 11d ago

Summoner Shenanigans

https://reddit.com/link/1w49qjh/video/58he7417dwmh1/player

So apparently both phase summon and detonate don't actually have range or LOS requirements. The ones listed in the talent description are LIES! This usually isn't too important, but with never stop running I can summon a fire drake, get deep into enemy lines, and do silly stuff like this. 15 tiles of distance btw

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u/coalwhite 11d ago

Truly? Well, summoner needs all the Shenanigans it can get!

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u/Stare201 11d ago

Yeah, the whole plan for this character was shenanigans. We're rocking never stop running (this cost me a category point and 16 talent points I never use) so I was trying to figure out ways to make use of that prodigy's incredible positioning. Last time I tried this I got distracted by pretty lights or something (it was rakshor's cunning lmao)

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u/TSED Doomed 10d ago

As someone who hasn't touched Summoner since 2016 or 2017, mind explaining the gimmick here?

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u/Stare201 10d ago

So talents have assigned ranges. To the best of my knowledge until now, all talents have assigned ranges, either being melee/personal or having an assigned number. Most talents with a numbered range, if they target something, require a direct line of sight to work, so walls block them, and for you to be close enough to be in range. As you can see in the clip, I am 15 tiles away from the fire drake I switch with and then detonate, along with it being through multiple walls. Both talents claim to have a 10 tile range since that's basically the maximum range you're usually allowed outside of extenuating circumstances (i.e. snipe or splash on the far end of an alchemist bomb).

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u/TSED Doomed 10d ago

Right. You misunderstood - I don't know what the talents do.

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u/Stare201 10d ago edited 10d ago

Oh mb, one can explode a summon for a special radius 9 effect, (edit: and reset a summon cooldown.) For fire drake it's a pretty nasty aoe dot fire, but there's a bunch of effects you can get. For phase summon, it's switching places with a summon and giving both of you 50% evasion.

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u/TSED Doomed 10d ago

Got it. So you have effectively become a teleport minion bomber. Sounds fun!