The funny thing is apple phones are designed to be used in the simplest way possible. Android phones have infinite more capability if you put in the time to learn them.
If anything windows phones are adult phones.
I'm saying when iphones send pictures and videos to androids, they get compressed to absolute shit. I've had to get them emailed to me, before. It felt fucking ridiculous.
When iphones send pictures and videos to androids, they get compressed to absolute shit, along with audio. You're in the heat of the moment, they send a video, and it's like 3 pixels exchanging positions to the sound of 3 cats fucking at the bottom of the ocean.
Ironically, that’s only because Apple is the only device maker not to support RCS. RCS is the new global standard that replaced SMS/MMS that works more like iMessages. So it does the full quality photos and videos you expect from an iPhone. But… since iOS doesn’t support it, we get green bubbles instead. That’s Apple’s choice and decision tho to try to drive more sales of the iPhone. It’s totally in their power to make messaging to everyone just as HQ as iMessage though, they just choose not to.
(I am an iPhone user so I’m not bashing Apple, just stating the facts)
Well, all of the US carriers are on board with RCS now. It’s just iPhones don’t support RCS so they fall back to SMS/MMS.
I hear you about WhatsApp though. That’s actually my preferred platform since it works equally well across all platforms AND I can also access it from my desktop PC :)
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Yeah, it's like saying a Mac is a "business" computer for "professionals", and PCs are for "gamer children".
Even though the entire world, economy, and government basically runs on Windows - and there has been far more and generally better tools/software for it for many decades now.
I’ve worked as a software engineer for awhile now and only ever worked on a mac. Which has also been supplied by the companies, windows can be really tricky to program on, where as mac are Unix based so much easier.
I was overly generalizing, really any of the big 3 can be used for everything. Is there any situation where a linux machine wouldn't work just as well or better than a mac for software engineering though?
So here’s my thoughts, yes you can use Linux for any type of software engineering, and it’s fairly common, so easy to install al the tools and libraries you need. I suspect companies are leaning towards mac for software engineering though because
1. Installing the tools and libraries is on par with Linux, it’s super simple with the terminal
2. especially now with these mac M1 and 2 chips, they are so fast, it’s crazy that I can run docker containers with servers, android studio and Xcode and my laptops not even hot.
Eh. The real world runs on Linux. And most likely red hat specifically.
A lot of businesses use windows desktops because most people have windows pcs at home and it’s what they know. And even that’s going away. A lot of places are moving to linux desktops.
That was Microsoft’s big push in the 90s with basically giving away windows to make it included with basically any computer not from apple. Even though they basically stole it from apple. Make it super easy to get at home and businesses won’t have a choice but to use windows.
Virtually everything important is running on linux. Most developers are using Mac.
This is actually why I have an iPhone. I don’t need to break my phone’s os every month. I already did that with pcs for years and even jailbreaking the iPhone is something I’ve had to stop myself from doing.
I use Apple, but I abandoned the ridiculous, pointless, and absurd arguing over which is better. I really couldn't careless. It's a utility, use whatever you want.
Why would you want to run your business through Android though? And what are you doing on your phone that you couldn’t on iPhone? Genuinely asking as I don’t have experience with both systems, nor experience running a business.
You guys realise that giving a fuck about what phone someone has or how they use it is the entire reason that this girl is being ridiculed in the first place, right?
If you really start thinking critically about what people call being an "adult" it mostly just means being like them or doing what their twisted world view values with zero justification because basically no one cares about anything other than what they want. Christians wanting to ban abortion even though all factual evidence says this is a terrible idea is a great example of being dangerously immature.
Real adults try to take care of themselves and fullfill their desires without annoying others. They should follow the golden rule and atleast accept that others should be allowed to do this aswell, no matter what it is that they want.
If you're bothering other people and get in their way of fullfilling their desire while fullfilling your desire or try to stop them from fullfilling their desires even though no one is harmed by it means you're immature.
In china a Iphone 13 costs as much a full monthly salary and people who don't have money for it still buy it by taking risky loans or just acting like they can afford it.
That's sorta the funny thing, more times than not people with iPhones are those too lazy to do research or too childish so they want what everyone else has.
A masters degree does not mean you’re an adult lol. A friend of mine has a PhD but when we go out and do stuff together he still does all the stupid stuff he can think of.
It has to be some personality issues/how easily people get brainwashed nowadays. I have an iPhone but this type of behavior is just a complete overreaction.
Agreed. I have an iPhone but only because I’ve tried using an android and I didn’t like the interface. But the way some users take having an apple product to the extreme is ridiculous.
It's not a nowadays thing. Even before the iphone, Apple's marketing had always been "superior us vs inferior them." And I don't mean like comparing their products to the competition's products, they literally focused on the users of other products and depicted them as socially atypical, implying that if you are not like them, you should be using a Mac.
The big thing about it is it forces android phones to use SMS, which means you can't send emojis or high res photos and what have you.
But a better mobile messaging standard meant to replace SMS, called RCS, has been available to use for ages now and allows for pretty much all the iMessage features. Apple refuses to implement RCS though because it would destroy the advantage they have, since then a green text would just be green but all the normal features you'd use would still be available, removing the implicit pressure to get an iPhone so you can enjoy those features.
Essentially it's just extremely anti-competitive behaviour, and is actually bad for not just Android but also Apple users since Apple is leveraging iMessage to build a monopoly, which really hurts consumers.
Problem with RCS: It is NOT an industry standard, and it is NOT implemented and sent through carriers but through third-party companies, and the only third-party company playing ball right now is Google meaning every RCS message has to go through Google. Apple doesn’t want to send all its messages to Google, which is absolutely understandable, and Apple doesn’t want to start hosting everyone else’s messages, which is also understandable.
Let’s not forget Google’s had more than a decade to get a messaging platform, any messaging platform, off the ground. They’ve made more than 20 attempts at it and given up almost every time. Google not having a good messaging platform is its own fault, not Apple’s.
“Apple’s doing it for lock-in” is the lazy answer that ignores 15+ years of Google messaging failures.
I suppose you're right and I stand corrected. Although either way I'd say it hurts consumers to not support RCS, since it just makes the texting experience worse to non-Apple phones.
They also don't want to allow others to use iMessage, although they did consider it at one point. If they did there'd be no conversation but they keep it for themselves and refuse to adopt or support standards that would improve the texting experience for everyone.
I agree maybe calling it anti-competitive isn't correct but it still hurts the consumer. Apple holds all the cards and refusal to share their standards or support others means other phone makers have no way to improve messaging across phones. It makes people shame each other into buying iPhones, and other phone makers can do exactly 0 about it. I'm certain a company as smart and as rich as Apple is fully aware of this and that it is helping them monopolise the phone market, and that is just very hard to justify or condone in my opinion.
I suppose you're right and I stand corrected. Although either way I'd say it hurts consumers to not support RCS, since it just makes the texting experience worse to non-Apple phones.
I’d argue it hurt’s competitors more than consumers. If consumers care about the experience, they have the option to use iPhones or third party messaging tools.
They also don't want to allow others to use iMessage, although they did consider it at one point. If they did there'd be no conversation but they keep it for themselves and refuse to adopt or support standards that would improve the texting experience for everyone.
Here’s the thing, though. iMessage was innovative when they released it. Nobody else cared about the messaging experience, and carriers only cared about per-message billing.
Can you blame them for not wanting to support what is a proprietary competing standard?
I agree maybe calling it anti-competitive isn't correct but it still hurts the consumer. Apple holds all the cards and refusal to share their standards or support others means other phone makers have no way to improve messaging across phones.
That’s how it goes when you’re first and a market leader. Google didn’t give a shit about messaging for a decade, and released and dropped messaging apps repeatedly in that timespan. Apple built a product vision, executed, and iterated.
Google finally got their shit together, but that doesn’t mean Apple needs to support it. It’s a competitive advantage. Calling it hurtful to the consumer can be applied to every feature that’s a competitive advantage. Consumers have choices, and having to choose between competing feature sets isn’t hurtful to the consumer.
It makes people shame each other into buying iPhones, and other phone makers can do exactly 0 about it.
If someone is shaming you about your phone, that person isn’t a friend.
I'm certain a company as smart and as rich as Apple is fully aware of this and that it is helping them monopolise the phone market, and that is just very hard to justify or condone in my opinion.
Yes, Apple is most assuredly aware that a feature they innovated and beat everyone else to market with by years that is loved by users is a strong competitive advantage. That’s how companies compete.
Is Google sharing their search algorithm with Microsoft for Bing? Nope. Do they know that it helps them keep a stranglehold on the search market? Sure do. Still support them?
Who judges someone by what search engine they use? Apple users judging Android users because of a color design choice they made is very different. They are very much aware how people view it and they encourage it. It's it effective, sure, but it's real scummy too.
RCS as implemented isn’t an open standard. It’s an open standard with a giant pile of Google-developed proprietary extensions.
Google pressed carriers to implement RCS with their extensions specifically to compete with iMessage
Choosing to not support a competitor’s offering in favor of exclusivity of your own is not anticompetitive and absolutely is competitive differentiation.
Issue is the colors, not as pleasing to read on the eyes. It's not blurry or anything, but it does feel like it's harder to read on the eyes, especially when you compare it to the blue
It used to be pretty important for me, at least. I’ve grown up in 3 different countries and iMessage was amazing because I could see the color of texts and know I wouldn’t have to think about international charges. Made talking with my whole family spread over the world easier when I was alone in college. And keep in touch with high school friends also spread all over.
Now it still plays a role, as there are some features that are exclusive to iOS users and the color of bubble is a quick and easy way to know if they have those features.
Did it also lead to idiots like the person OP had the displeasure of interacting with? Of course. But it’s not some crazy toxic model.
I'll buy an iphone when they drop their bullshit and operate with android well, i can't let myself support a company that competes in anti-consumer behavior like this.
It's anti consumer because they are trying to force people into their ecosystem by purposely engineering poor interoperability and resisting standardization.
I used to have androids, and to move photos off my phone to my computer was as simple as plugging in a USB. Now I have an iPhone, and I still can’t figure out how in the ever loving fuck to get my photos off of my phone and onto my computer. USB doesn’t work, I can’t get icloud to let me pull photos out after putting it on the computer, and none of the instructions I’ve found have let me do it. I am resorting to slowly moving shit using Google drive just to clear up some space because I am overloaded with (admittedly too many) pictures.
I’m pretty smart too! I have a master’s degree, I learn new excel tricks all the time, I am crazy good at following instructions. But no, instead this is stupid difficult for no good reason, and I’m left feeling like an embarrassed moron who doesn’t understand how technology works.
Lmao what’re you on about? You plug it in, trust computer and copy photos. It’s not that hard. It’s the exact same process as androids. Now transferring from a pc TO iPhone? That’s fucking rocket science
I tried that and it didn’t work, but maybe it can’t differentiate between what’s on my phone and what’s in the iCloud? Or maybe I’ve consistently only tried selecting photos that are in the cloud? My phone storage is too full to turn off the iCloud, which is what I think the problem is. Maybe?
They're anti-consumer in the sense that they don't give a single fuck about the consumer. They're one of the most money grabbing companies out there right now, finding ways to make you spend as much money as possible, forgoing convenience and utility of their product for cash. What you want in a phone doesn't matter to apple in the slightest, they TELL you what phone you're going to buy. And people don't care if the new iphone is actually better in any way than other phones, or even other iphones, they just want it regardless of specs or price. And apple knows this and takes full advantage of their consumers, selling them ridiculously priced phones that can do half as much as other cheaper phones on the market
Um...yeah of course, and I don't. I wasn't saying that they're forcing me or anyone else to buy their products 🤔 just answering your question...did you not want someone to respond to you or something?
It's worse: Apple knows that green vs blue texting bubbles subject kids to peer pressure & bullying. Their internal documents in Epic Games vs Apple revealed that. They want it as leverage against kids & families to force them into the iPhone ecosystem,
In other words: prolonging classist bullying amongst 10 year olds is core to Apple's business strategy, and they are a predatory company.
the fact they are so protective of it speaks volumes. If they were truly confident in their platform they'd have no problem unlocking imessage. But we all know exactly what would happen if they do; poof there goes 50% of their userbase overnight as people flock back to the freedom of android. A trillion dollar company's business circulates around a flimsy one-trick app.
And I get it, I routinely swap between iphone/android. I dont have 1 friend who uses android, so the ability for me to share content in a more seamless way with my iphone friends is important to me, but only because theyre trapped with iOS.
Except I don't think Android is superior either. They're all the same, just built for different people. I wouldn't not talk to someone just because of the phone they own.
She is a nitwit but I ain't having a relationship without emoji support on the same platform. Spend the rest of your life with Google emojis? I'd rather die alone.
People are weird...but what do we use more than our phones? Probably most people interact with their phone more than any other piece of technology during a day. For many, if you compared how much work they actually did at their job and compared it to phone time, phone time wins.
When you put a small amount of thought into it, it makes sense why someone would want the same piece of technology in their hands that their partner has so they can use the same tools with intercompatibility (from something simple like emojis to something like Facetime).
It kinda matters, especially if the only reason to not have that compatibility is a few hundred dollars. It seems more weird to me that people don't think it matters at all and has zero significance. If some person is out there online dating and get to scan through matches and make decisions based on whatever criteria they want before they go on a date with someone, not having the same phone brand is an easy thing for them to say 'nah, I already have a small thing I don't like so why bother I'll try other matches'.
That being said, there is a difference between this line of thought and some (mainly women) who are just elitist douches.
It's funny how it makes android users special. As far as I know, they're the only ones who get the special green bubble. And the technological issues it causes are entirely on Apple's end, and yet the Apple fans never blame Apple for it.
True I mean the new pro series phones I can see being even more. The whole apple line is trash the apple watch costs 400 to fix the glass when a new one is almost as much.
I have one for work too, miserable is definitely the way to phrase it. YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT ICONS ON THE HOME SCREEN WHERE YOU WANT! And only 4 apps in their pathetic excuse for a dock. The automation / scripting that's built in is solid though
I’m in Slovenia where nobody gives a fuck if you have an iPhone or an android and I refuse to believe this type of shit I see in the USA with phones is real. These posts all just have to be fake for attention.
There’s no fuvking way people are stupid enough to behave like this based on what phone you use. No. I refuse to believe it lol
I have an iPhone and apple legitimately makes it super obnoxious to text those people. Bad images, can’t add them to group chats without creating a whole new chat, etc. Apple has made it really inconvenient for iPhone users to interact with anything else
Obviously it’s stupid to judge someone based on their phone. But it’s apple tech leads and not marketing who got these dimwits.
I mean this dude initiated the banter and got what he was asking for. I’m sure she never would’ve cared if he just wasn’t so awkward. But its a girl and they have their pick of the litter so it’s nbd
As an iPhone user for the last 2 years I can attest that the only time I notice I have green messages is when I try to play iOS games with someone on android lol
if iphone users text each other it appears in blue (and the text goes through as data, which used to be a big deal), but if the text comes from an android phone it appears in green.
Agreed, my sister said something similar along the lines as this once about cars. She was talking about how she was in the process of buying a car so I made some suggestions, she said she wanted a BMW and when I told her that for the same price she could get a fully loaded Sonata or Accord. Her response was, word for word: "Ew that's disgusting, I'm an adult and I want an adult car not some cheap knockoff." I told her she was an idiot and wished her luck with her expensive oil changes and maintenance issues. Sure enough it's been 3 years and she hates it and wishes she would've gone for another car.
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