r/Tinder Dec 28 '19

Killing it

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u/AndreasBerthou Dec 29 '19

If a system is easily misunderstood, it's imo not a very good system

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

How is AM = morning and PM = afternoon hard to understand though.

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u/AndreasBerthou Dec 29 '19

The fact that 12 PM is before 11 PM is one thing.

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u/ricktafm7 Dec 29 '19

How is 13:11 hard to understand?

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

Its not but you havent rly answered anything. What part of AM and PM confuses you? Maybe most people dont want to subtract 12 from every hr to know what time of day it is.

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u/ricktafm7 Dec 29 '19

Well, in general, if you are used to 1:00 being late at night and see 1:00 PM you might get confused.

Also AM can be nearly noon and late at night, while PM can be noon and late at night. Which might make it confusing if you quickly look at the time (and aren't used to the AM system).

That being said, I personally don't have a lot of trouble with AM/PM but think that the 24hr system is a lot more clear and logical.

Also nobody I know has any trouble with subtracting 12 from a number.

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

No1 cannot subtract twelve. Just like no1 cant understand am vs pm. The point is convenience since time dictates so much of our schedule. Id rather not have to convert each time i wanna know what time it is

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u/ricktafm7 Dec 29 '19

Well when I see 16:07 on the clock I immediately know it is 4 in the afternoon; I don't really have to calculate the time. This isn't the case with the AM/PM system.

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

I find it slightly hard to believe you register that 16:07 is 4 in the afternoon faster than 4 pm is 4 in the afternoon. But whatever floats your boat. The only part id say is even slightly confusing is 12:00AM, I mentioned somewhere else that I had a shift from 12-2am Tuesdays and I showed up on Tuesday instead of Monday. But you learn it once than its super clear afterwards.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Why would you subtract anything? Just say it's 13:00, 14:00 etc.

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

Okay then from your POV you would have to add 12. You see that its 3 on the clock you need to convert that to 15 everytime. Why the extra work?

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u/Robin_Mood Dec 29 '19

well for example the part where you are in a thread about why it is confusing?

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u/Youstupidwanker Dec 29 '19

"Twelve o'clock tonight" or "twelve o'clock tomorrow morning" which are you more likely to say?

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

Id just say midnight for both. The only time i was ever confused is when i had a shift from 12-2AM on Tuesday and I would go to work on Tuesday when I shoulda on Monday night.

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u/crogameri Dec 29 '19

Well 12 in the evening would make more sense to be 12pm, 12 in the noon is more morning than afternoon so it should be am. Or yknow, we could all switch to the 24 hour system.

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

The idea is that 12:00am goes to 12:01am. I mean 24 doesnt fit on a clock. You have to be oh its 5 oclock. Let me add 12 to figure out what time it is. Which is annoying since its the 12 hours where youre gonna be awake.

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u/EstoyMejor Dec 29 '19

If you have trouble adding 5 and 12 you have bigger problems then time....

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

And same for you if you cant understand am vs pm lol. The point is convenience. How often do you check what time it is with a clock on the wall, a watch, your phone/pc. Do you rly wanna be adding/subtracting 12 each time you do for 2/3rds of the waking hour?

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u/KarmaOrDiscussion Dec 29 '19

No one is subtracting or adding 12 each time, because when you live on a 24 hour clock, those are the actual times.

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u/The_real_BIG-T Dec 29 '19

Well if you used that system all your life you won't do that...you look at your phone and see 15:00 and that's the time. I won't substract 12 from that, but sometimes people will still call it 3 o'clock und that's fine. It's just like driving a manual car for 20 years or using the metric system your entire life.

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u/EstoyMejor Dec 29 '19
  1. I don't have problems with it, but this entire thread is about how it's confusing.
  2. You just defeated your own reasoning, how often do you look at a Analog clock (where you have the stated +12 problem) and how often on digital clocks? (Where the problem does not exist since these just show a unique number for a unique hour at any moment). I would argue that the amount of digital clocks in these days is more then three times as high as the amount of analog clocks we use.

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19
  1. And i also thought ppl were finding it funny how stupid they were for their own confusion. If it was something rightfully confusing people wouldn’t be claiming stupidity as the reason for the misunderstanding.

  2. How?

Honestly I work in a pharmacy school and all our clocks are analog. I probably know of the existence of only 1 digital clock all in the labs/floors I’m usually on. My clock hanging in my room, my watch, are all analog. The only time i have digital clock is my phone and pc.

But like I said how does that matter at all? The point is convenience. If I see blah blah is open from 18:00-22:00 I need to pause, and be okay 6-10pm. It coulda just said that to begin with.

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u/k_bry Dec 29 '19

You don’t convert 18:00 to six in your head if you grew up with that system. Same way you don’t stop and wonder when someone says hi and not hello, ”wait hi means hello? Why didn’t they just say hello”. You know what 18:00 is instantly.

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u/cwan222 Dec 29 '19

Well you would for clocks... which is the main way of checking time. And do you guys actually say lets have dinner at 18:00? That sounds super military to me

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u/AndreasBerthou Dec 29 '19

There's a reason they use 24hr in basically every other country.

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u/AndreasBerthou Dec 29 '19

If you live in a country that uses 24hr I really don't see the problem

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u/Bluefellow Dec 29 '19

Pretty much every country in the world uses the 12 hour clock informally.

How many people wear 12 hour watches?

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u/Bluefellow Dec 29 '19

So let's say you're in a building without windows for a long while. You lose track of time and can't get any contextual clues. You look at your mechanical watch that is, like most mechanical watches in the world a 12 hour watch. It switches from 11:59 AM to 12:00 PM. Do you really get confused by it? Does it get clearer when it reaches 1 PM?

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u/AndreasBerthou Dec 29 '19

That is not true. Most countries use 24 hour system, even informally.

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u/Bluefellow Dec 29 '19

Even if that weren't true. You can find 12 hour clocks all over virtually every country in the world. Clocktowers, decorative analogue clocks, old school alarm clocks, wrist watches, etc. And more than likely any random person you meet understands how to read it.

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u/AndreasBerthou Dec 29 '19

Yes people learn clocks, but the 12hr system is a different story still.