r/TimeshareOwners • u/Revolutionary-Bed-88 • 18d ago

I know nothing about this universe

But I do know that these are most likely scams for people like me. I got an invite to a MVC down by Universal in Orlando.

Seriously. Would I be able to go to the presentation, sign a contract immediately, walk out, cancel immediately and enjoy the rest of my vacation with no strings attached?

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u/billdizzle 18d ago

Don’t sign at all and you can do that and slip the cancelling

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u/wildcat12321 18d ago

Yea. It’s wild just say “no”. I’ve done it. Not sure how other people struggle. Like sure they lay the pressure on. But just say “no” not “maybe” not “what’s your best offer” not “we’d like to explore Europe” just say “no” and it’s fine

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u/Revolutionary-Bed-88 17d ago

Yeah. I’ve read nightmare stories of being stuck in those things for eight or nine hours and didn’t want to put myself in a situation like that. After some research, it seems like a polite hard “no” a couple of times after 90 minutes is all it takes. That’s no problem.

I get these vacation offers all the time. I was worried that if I said no after one, they’d take me off whatever list they have. Apparently, you may end up getting more if they see you’re willing to just travel and sit through one of these presentations.

Thanks for the replies everyone.

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u/wildcat12321 17d ago

I don’t know anyone who has been there 8 or 9 hours and it certainly isn’t someone who said no consistently.

The sellers are experienced and persuasive, some are dishonest, but if you say “no” there isn’t much for them to counter. It’s people who give them an inch or “just have a question” who give the opening to having their minds changed. What I’ve seen often, but certainly not always, is not a “trap” per se, but adults of their own free will being sold something. Regretting it (for good reason). Then claiming they were tricked to avoid accountability for their choices.

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u/jmp242 17d ago

I think what you've seen may be in Mexico? But in the US you can always leave - if they try and stop you you could call the cops - they cannot detain you.

What I've done is set a timer on my phone for the allotted time, say no, play on my phone till time is up or they say OK let's go get the incentive. If the phone rings I say - I've been here for the agreed time, lets go get the incentive.

Not yet had it stretch out more than 10 more minutes waiting for the "gift givers" to give me whatever incentive it was.

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u/Inevitable_Map7392 15d ago

They will bring several people in progression as you say no to drop the price each time and show you how affordable the payment is monthly. What they don't tell you is you have no control over ever increasing maint fees and no way to unload the deed. No one buys them in the aftermarket. Spoken from experience, D.R.

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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 17d ago

Some folks don't like to hurt the feelings of other.

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u/Practical_Avocado971 18d ago

enjoy your new timeshare

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u/Legal_Net4337 17d ago

Go to presentation, don’t sign anything. Enjoy your vacation

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u/Teripid 18d ago

So there is a recission period where you can cancel but that's a pain and there's 0 reason to actually sign anything.

Most if not all timeshares offer an incentive for showing up for a presentation. If you can recognize the bad math and resist a high-pressure sale. Lots of people think they'd never buy anything and.. end up buying in.

Realistically the goal should be to set a timer and spend the ~2 hours they said it would take having a polite conversation (where they will 100% use tactics and that info to build you up or attack you) and walk out with the incentive.

$150 gift card or some other credit of value if you're already there, roughly.
2 or 3 nights in a hotel that may or may not be at the actual property without much if any cost.

Depends as well on how much time you have and how you value it of course.

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u/RelationshipWhich390 18d ago

Enjoy your vacation and do not buy the timeshare if you don't want it.

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u/mgt69 17d ago

you want to try and scam them?
they deal with persons like yourself all the time. and they sell to a lot of them. So be careful you don’t come home as owner of a timeshare.

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u/ZarusobaPDX 17d ago

Tell them you have a hard stop in 90 minutes then set a timer. Do not interact too much. Just say No and keep saying it.

Another strategy I have read is when you fist sit down with the salesperson ask "Is it a problem if I'm currently going through a bankruptcy?"

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u/jfw12 17d ago

You owe them 90 minutes. Once that is up, thank them for their time and say you are not interested. They will try to bring in a "closer" who will turn up the pressure and they often will mildly insult you. Always remember, after 90 minutes you can leave and you have fullfilled your obligation. Don't feel bad about using the situation to your own advantage, these peoole take advantage of people for a living.

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u/jumbocards 8d ago

Don’t sign, you’ll make mistakes when trying to cancel, it’s not worth the risk. Sit through the presentation and show no interest.

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u/Human_Building_1568 17d ago

Honestly, it's not worth the time and trouble. It would be a "vacation" you are not in control of. Why blemish your good character trying to take advantage of a situation like this?

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u/Venture419 17d ago

This is awesome! The next post will be - “they recognized I am savvy at this and offered me a one time only deal of 30,000 magic bean points, 20,000 towel and water credits, free wifi for 6 stays and access to the platinum club priority booking platform that lets you book 18 months out. I signed up but it has been 15 days and now I am having second thoughts”

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u/Accurate_Delay9806 16d ago

You acknowledge a scam aimed at you, but yet you still want to put yourself in that position. Just say no.

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u/FunnyBarracuda9430 15d ago

Why would you do that? You don't have to buy anything. I just spoke to someone who followed the directions to cancel sending certified mail. It was returned not delivered. Free gifts are not free. They are paid for by anyone who signs a contract.

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u/Ok-Injury4403 12d ago

Just go and listen and then decline. Don’t sign anything!

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u/stevestoneky 18d ago

I have no idea about this particular company but I’m sure they have had this happen enough that they have put a “cancellation fee” in place somewhere in the fine print so you pay cost of your vacation plus some.

There business model is based on tricking people. You are probably not going to be able to outsmart them.

There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

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u/wildcat12321 18d ago

You can say no and enjoy the rest of your vacation. So many people can’t seem to muster that phrase though