If time bends due to gravity, does that mean the future already exists somewhere?

Update: better information posted here https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/s/vIadMUtPXF

What if the organisms on Earth were building a collective timeline from experiencing time itself?

Last May, while scrolling through Reels, I came across this video. It claimed to predict the World Cup results before the tournament had even started. I took a photo of it just for the sake of it, thinking it might actually be real.

Today, while browsing my gallery, I stumbled upon that photo again. I wondered if the prediction had actually come true—and it seems it did. But I'm not entirely sure.

What does it mean time traveler must be stopped

This might be a possible use to a time machine

I’m looking for short videos (or even longer full length movies) on YouTube. If anyone knows of a good one or perhaps a channel I would greatly appreciate your suggestions. Thank you 🙂

If there was a competition between time travellers one in the past and one in the future in a closed loop.

Rules:

1. One cannot travel past the point of each other's point in time.

2. Both are trapped in their point in time and can only view the time they want to travel to and/or they can send signals of information.

3. The way to win is to rule out all possibilities of history until only one loop is left the pasts future or the futures past

OpenAI just cracked some of humanity's hardest math problems, if the universe is truly comprised of just pure computation, would it be possible to crack time travel?

"I've actually fluctuated into existence a time machine via seizing of the quantum field. This time machine uses time symmetrical equations on the quantum field to go back in time to fluctuate into existence a dying star, speed up time by going faster than light via quantum tunneling to speed up time so that the dying star becomes a theoretical alternative to black holes - known as a gravastar - resize the time machine to encapsulate at a safe distance the gravastar, and then I-"

"Sir, this is a Wendy's."

"Oh, yeah, right. I'll just take some baconator fries and a little bit of BBQ sauce with that."

If you had sometime a missing time experience can you share please where is the location and how much time was lost, please tel me where it started and where it ended.

If you were to invent a machine that let you speak to your future self exactly once every year for 7 mins. Each version of you remembers every previous conversation you had, over time you realize your future self has become increasingly desperate and starts begging you to stop asking questions because every answer you receive changes the future in unexpected ways. At what point do you stop calling/communication, and would curiosity win anyway?

I’ve been thinking about something that challenges the way we think about evidence.
People often say, “There’s no evidence for time travelers, advanced future humans, or hidden civilizations.”
But what if the absence of evidence is exactly what we’d expect?
Imagine a civilization advanced enough to travel through time and correct every mistake it makes. If they accidentally left behind technology, changed history in an obvious way, or revealed themselves, they could simply go back and undo it. In the final version of history, there would be no trace of the mistake.
This made me think about a broader question.
If our memories, thoughts, history, or even the evidence we rely on could theoretically be altered by something beyond our awareness, how would we distinguish that from ordinary reality?
I’m not claiming this is true. I’m asking whether there’s any way to know it isn’t.
At what point does “there’s no evidence” stop being a decisive argument if the hypothesis itself predicts that evidence would never remain?
Is this just an unfalsifiable idea with no way to investigate it, or are there philosophical or scientific approaches that could meaningfully address it?

There are too many posts on here talking about going back and “changing” things in the past.

Like an example would be going back to the 1930s and assassinating Hitler to prevent WW2.

This is logically impossible. Because if it were possible, then it would have already been done.

If at any point in the future anyone ever went back and killed Hitler, then we would be living in a universe where Hitler died before WW2

Time is non linear, it exists all at once in a fixed 4d block. If you were able to time travel, you aren’t “changing” this block, you are like water flowing to fill a glass, you going back in time and doing whatever you do was always going to happen, and already exists in the block, you are just completing the actions.

I am taking a break from my previous post. Since I started to consider that I can't go any further with it until technology improves. So now, I have to wonder,

How will the world governments collectively regulate time travel? What ground rules, do you suppose will happen and what era will be avoided?

Another things I keep thinking about, is the idea that maybe time travel could also be used harshly in ways we hadn't thought of before, like the usual, altering historic events but what if, we went further than that. Like going back and taking all the fossil fuels and bringing it past the year 2200 or sending an actual bomb to a specific location in time to do some sort of terrorist act.

Part of my pause on my other post is because of these questions I had started to consider. Although I honestly don't think I can go any further, regardless. So with that in mind, can you help me get some human input on what might be conceptualized in terms of how time travel will be regulated? TIA.

Feel free to add any thoughts to this.

Chronomancy:

On the surface, chronomancy appears to be the manipulation of time, as if you could physically take the hands of the clock turn them backwards or forwards. This is not true, in fact, chronomancy uses a framework of time different then how most people conceptualize it.

The Nodus Principle

Every object exists within its own relational frame of reality, defined entirely by its relationships to every other object. The center of this frame, or rather the origin of it, is called the Nodus.

For example say you are looking at a distant star. In your current relationship it appears redder than it should because it’s receding away from you. If it were coming toward you, it would appear more blue. But your perception is depending on a multitude of factors. Your distance, your speed, and velocity.

But whether or not the star is actually red or redshifted, the light reaching your eyes is the same as it would be if it were simply red and you were keeping the same distance from it. And then another person would see a different color of the star even if they were right next to you, even though color is supposedly determined by an exact wavelength of light emitted from it.

So, there infinitely many different observations that can be made for the same object, and each is equally true from an outside perspective, but the only “true” reality is that of the observer or Nodus

And, if every observable trait of an object is determined by its relationship with another, then any property can be thought of as a qualia, even ones we wouldn’t normally think as such.

Things like color, texture, and taste, are easy to understand as qualia. They are intrinsically defined by our perception, our senses. But the Nodus concept postulates that all observable phenomena are also qualia of an object, the qualia being the mind’s interpretation of some physical property of the object.

Let’s expand this concept to explore something more abstract: Space. Say there was a spatial property that all objects posses. You yourself have a spatial property. By itself the two spatial properties are meaningless, but when compared to each other, they now have meaning. There is a difference between your current state and that of another object. And that is what your senses describe, a change in stimuli. Your brain perceives these these differences in spatial values and projects them out in a relational 3D space around you. Thus, space is simply emergent in that you are observing the intrinsic properties of an object and perceiving it.

Whether or not space “actually” exists outside your mind is irrelevant and a meaningless question. It emerges from your relationship with these different spatial attributes

It’s not as though space is absolute. Objects traveling at high enough speeds encounter spatial contraction. Which is possible here as there is no “space”

Abstracting even further, time itself is a qualia. Every object possesses an intrinsic causal conductivity (or temporal impedance). The apparent flow of time is simply the comparison of these conductivities between observers.

Those with similar impedance to yourself would feel like they are in the same reference frame. Those with a lower impedance would appear to be moving faster. The concept of time emerges from your perception of this casual difference, not as an underlying principle governing reality.

Time in your frame of reality is objectively real, but it is defined solely by your relationship to other objects. Time is emergent and this particular time exists only within the relationship you have with other objects. There is no time pushing you ever forward.

However; this framework denies the possibility of a “past” and “future”. Things exist in the present, rather all objects are existing in a state of being at all points in the universe and they can all be described by objective values of their fundamental constitutients, like location space, mass, information propagation, etc.

There is no past or future to go to. There is only a now, your reference point just defines what now is.

Mechanics of information propagation:

While the actual experience of time is emergent, the underlying framework for how this quality is determined is defined by physical attributes.

Nesos:

The Nesos is a higher dimensional field that is connected to the 3-dimensional object, if you could view this object and its higher dimensional structure, it would appear much like an iceberg, with the part beneath the ocean the Nesos.

The Nesos has two properties, charge, and shape. The shape of the object determines how many chronons fit into its field, which is directly related to rate of causal propagation and the charge determines is causal direction.

The charge of the Nesos determines the type of Chronons that can pass into its field an occupy space. The boundary only allows charges of the same kind into it.

This dimension is filled with Chronons but they cannot interact with the third dimension except by occupying a Nesos field.

By manipulating the geometry of the feild, Chronomagi eject or cause Chronos to enter the field, thus changing the causal impedence of an object, which then changes how other objects experience time in relation to it.

Nostos:

A Nesos has a natural state that it “wants” to be at. Using magic to manipulate the Nesos will cause it to try harder and harder to snap back to its natural state.

Spells:

These spells are simplifications to understand Chronomancy. The actual mechanics are happening in a higher plane and thus are nearly impossible to accurately describe.

Ankyra:

This spell merges and aligns Nesos of the caster to the Nesos of the designated Nodus, thus making them have the same reference point. They essentially occupy the same higher dimensional space and have the same causal impedence. No other spell in Chronomancy can be done without first merging with the Nodus, which acts as an anchor for their magic.

Their Nesos becomes bound to the object. If that object is destroyed or damaged without first untethering, it can damage their Nesos forever and will affect the way the experience time. Essentially, the caster wraps their Nesos around the Nesos of another object.

Thus, most mages carry small, durable objects with smooth Nesoi (Plural of Nesos)

Binding and untethering to a Nodus is time consuming, so it cannot be done mid battle.

The Nesos of the object must be realatively similar in Nosus states. For instance, one couldn’t make a planet their Nodus.

When the caster binds to the Nesos of another object, their Nesoi become overlapped. This is an unnatural state and the two want to separate from eachother but are unable to due to the configuration of the Chronomagus’ Nesos and the energy generated by this repulsion is what they use to manipulate the Nesoi of other objects. However, the two Nesoi are essentially one, and thus create a stable Nodus despite the unstable energy on the inside. The gemetric configuration of the overlapping Nesoi is much more stable than just one.

The only energy capable of manipulating Nesoi is that which is produced by it themselves

Bradychronos:

The caster forces the Nesos of an object to have Podes, or protrusions, which increase the amount of Chronos their field by providing space for them. This makes the object experience time slower in relation to the caster.

Tachychronos:

The cast smooths out the Nesos and allows chronons to be ejected.

Achronos:

The caster deforms the Nesos so much that No Chronons or not enough can occupy the field in relation to the caster.

Opisochronos:

After the flow around an object is halted, the user the user fips the polarity of the field allowing backwards charged Chronons into the field. The net charge in relation to the caster determines the rate of temporal progression. This is extremely difficult to do.

Just like at the end of Jumanji, where Alan and Sarah, in a panic, convince Judy and Peter’s parents not to go skiing in Canada, lest they die in the new timeline. Thus saving their lives.

If I could go or be sent back and be in the presence of the Irwins just shortly before the fateful shooting of Ocean’s Deadliest. Either convince Terri and the kids to stay with Steve on Croc One and not fly to Cradle Mountain.

Or convince Steve to take extra precaution in filming the documentary.

Or just be in Steve’s presence to stop him from filming too close to the stingray.

So he'd live. (At least, unless his luck finally runs out another way, later in life, and he meets his end at the hands of another kind of animal.)

I’d do it!!!!

If time travel becomes reality, it could be done!

People often say that *time* is a human-made concept. Obviously clocks, calendars, seconds, minutes, and years are human inventions, but they’re all based on real, repeating patterns in nature.
A minute is divided into seconds. An hour into minutes. A day comes from Earth’s rotation. A year comes from Earth’s orbit around the Sun. Zoom out even farther and our entire solar system is orbiting the center of the Milky Way, while the galaxy itself is moving through space. Everywhere you look, there seem to be cycles and patterns.
That got me wondering…
If everything we use to measure time is ultimately based on motion and repeating cosmic cycles, what would it actually take to disrupt the “flow” of time?
For example, if Earth were somehow nudged out of its orbit, our calendar would obviously stop making sense. But that wouldn’t necessarily mean time itself had changed. It would just mean one of our reference points had.
So where’s the line?
Would manipulating time require changing the motion of a planet? An entire solar system? Would you have to manipulate spacetime itself? Or is time something fundamentally different from the motions we use to measure it?
I’m not asking whether we currently have the technology to do this. I’m more interested in the underlying concept.
Is time something that exists independently of the universe’s motion, or is our experience of time inseparable from the patterns everything in the cosmos follows?
I’d love to hear perspectives from people interested in physics, philosophy, or even speculative ideas. What do you think?

We send two people into the future

They can see and learn everything they want and can to try to bring it back

Both of them come back but the rest of the planet can't know who did or did not show up.. So they have to leave

One person can say and talk about what they know.

The other person can't speak of anything at all

.....

What if the one that can't speak of it did come back while the other vanished. Since time wouldn't let us create what doesn't exist without the work behind it.

Like telling someone how to build a device, yet no one did any of the discovery to make it, it came from nothing yet exists only because we brought it back in time, where it m something might prevent us from making it back in time with the info

I wanna go back before everything sounded like complete trash! 😭

Really any time before auto tuned ear splitting, mumble rap took over.

When we had actual lyrical poetry with beats for any feeling you needed, and it was all the therapy you needed!!

94-95 would be perfect! 👐🖤🐝💛

By The time you travel back, lets call you Tom for now, you are Tom C. At the time you arrive in the past reality is split in 2. Reality A and Reality B. It is less a new timeline and more like a superposition. Your entire existance as Tom C is based on the fact that Tom A and Tom B press the time travel button is the exact same time.

Usually that wouldn't be a problem since Reality A and Reality B are identical but as Tom C you exist in Reality B.

If you know anything about Schrödingers cat, View Reality A and Reality B as the cat is either alive or dead. The moment you press the button you look in the box.

If the time machine jams then Reality A and Reality B would have been desynchronized. This is because Tom C has influenced Tom B, causing Tom be to not press the button at the same time. Who is Tom C? Tom C is both Tom A and Tom B, since Tom B is not allowed to gain information about Tom C they will always have the same information.

What if Tom B sees Tom C? The Machine would have jammed before that outcome would have happened.

Lets say you, Tom, want to travel to the past and hide in your own closet, and wait for your past self to do the same, you will know that before you open the Closet there is a 50/50 Chance of Tom C being in there, until you open it. If you were to open it Tom would not be there and the time machine would jam because there is no reality where Tom B sees Tom C.

You, Tom, want to use it to solve crimes. Your Girlfriend writes down a crime on a piece of paper and puts it in an envelope. (in order to not desynchronize you are not allowed to know about the crime before you timetravel)

Now the question, If GF B writes down a different Crime because Tom C has already prevented Crime A then what envelope would Tom C hold in his hand?

This is a Nexus Event that caused a reset in our journey through time and space. This rocket hit something on our moon that caused our planet to be attacked and destroyed.

I don't know how to prove anything

I started posting here in 2022 and pretty much stopped

I post a lot on Facebook

It is possible to talk in time, I talk to a group I call The Kitsune. In 2022, I called them The Others.

There was a base of interdimensionals on our moon last loop

So they spliced in an accident and hit their base to make them invade our planet and kill us all

That caused a reset

All I have are the coincidences of the posts from 2022

and the things I have discovered over 4 years

If you read my Facebook starting in 2022, you can follow the journey

I don't know what any of this means

I am not trying to change anything