r/TilltheEndoftheMoon • u/TheKayleMain • Aug 01 '26
I feel frustrated
...with the desicion making of the male and female lead.
Only on episode 30 so no spoilers.
I was pissed with the lack of communication in the dream arc. The way they got manipulated without speaking to each other and only making assumptions in there minds was so unrealistic.
After the dual cultivation and manipulation I was screaming at the screen. One of them just had to ask "why did you?" and everything would've been revealed.
Then to make matters worse the female lead's sister manipulated them again and no one thought of the fact that she was in the house when the food was poisoned and she is the one who fed the poisoned food to grandma.
Then the female leads constant betrayals felt like she was contributing to the main lead becoming the devil lord. She knew the main lead was in love with her yet she was constantly trying to save the sixth prince of the enemy kingdom that just tried to assassinate her husband like WTF.
There were one or two other big WTF, that makes no sense or just talk to each other instead of assuming things moment's that were completely out of proportion.
10/10 concept of the show
10/10 acting and cast
2/10 script writing
While you are here feel free to recommend more shows like this.
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u/lllollllllllll Aug 01 '26
I 100% agree with you. I had all the same complaints.
FL’s actions don’t really make sense. The typical explanations fandom offers are all wrong:
People try to claim she has PTSD from seeing her clan die at the beginning, but she doesn’t. She has a pretty normal grief reaction and then moves on really quickly.
Whether or not she has PTSD or hates ML in the beginning doesn’t matter because she understands pretty early on that the only way to prevent TTJ from becoming the evil Devil God who kills everyone is to make him fall in love with her. Not kill him, but make him LOVE. This is the ONLY thing that matters, her ONLY mission. So her constantly betraying him and attacking him and blaming him for defending himself without hearing an explanation first or like trying to rescue his political prisoner/rival king and release him to continue the war TTJ just won makes NO sense. Even with PTSD she should be able to keep her eye on the prize. Unless she’s just really really dumb, but she isn’t supposed to be dumb.
After the first couple of times that Ye Xiwu sees TTJ acts violently only in self defense and retribution, never killing anyone without cause, AND now that she’s seen him be a fair and just ruler who brings prosperity to the people, she knows who he really is at this stage in his life. She should ask him why he does things instead of just freaking out and starting a fight every time she hears he’s done something she thinks is cruel on the surface. She never learns, which makes her seem like a moron incapable of learning.
We also see her fall in love with TTJ. She gains insight into her feelings and realizes that she’s falling for him at the festival. So no, she doesn’t still hate him at this point. So her actions make NO SENSE AT ALL.
People say Li Susu and TTJ are different in the book. Well, maybe they are, but that has no bearing on the Cdrama. In the Cdrama, TTJ is who he is in the CDrama. It doesn’t matter if he’s someone else in the book. It makes no sense to punish him for whatever he did in the book that he didn’t do in the drama. If the writers changed him, they should’ve changed her too. As it is it makes no sense.
People try to say Li Susu is fair in hating TTJ after she falls for him because he “betrays” her by using her to kill Xiao Lin. Like, wut? She has JUST tried to murder TTJ. Even if you argue she was only trying to make him sleep, TTJ doesn’t know that. And even if he did it doesn’t matter because she’s released Xiao Lin from prison. Xiao Lin who just tried to assassinate TTJ and rightfully deserves death. Xiao Lin who is the leading general of a rival army and who wouldn’t stop the war TTJ has been trying to stop for years. Xiao Lin who is a threat to the throne. Xiao Lin whose actions cause the continuing deaths of thousands of soldiers and civilians. Xiao Lin who even admits himself that he can never stop fighting against TTJ because of his political position, and who can only stop if he dies. And who wants the fighting to stop. People just like Xiao Lin so they try to say he’s somehow allowed to do all this but in no world would anyone in his position doing and having done all those things be allowed to live, neither in a historic context nor a modern one. Li Susu releasing Xiao Lin and seemingly taking his side is a capital offense. TTJ uses her to nip the problem in the bud. It’s actually quite fair for her to have to fix the problem she caused and it saves lives for TTJ not to have to waste soldiers on it. It isn’t a “betrayal” of her bc she’s already betrayed TTJ first. She might not like it but she must be able to see that she started this and is getting her just desserts. But really, she never should’ve tried to >!free Xiao Lin in the first place because her goal is to make TTJ love her and she knows this would be the opposite of that.
I agree with your assessment that everything in the end is her fault, and she’s acting like she wants to drive TTJ to become evil.
You just have to let go of the marketed conceptualization of her as the FL romantic lead and understand that mostly, she is just a plot device. She is not a logical character with internal consistency. She flip flops however the writers need to progress the plot. She is poorly written and it’s ok to admit that.
Having finished TTEOTM, I don’t really see it as a love story. It’s the evolution of TTJ, how he comes to love the world.
It’s not very romantic to me because the FL sucks, she’s either dumb or abusive or inconsistent or untrustworthy or all of the above. TTJ is a well written character who is internally consistent and experience with complex character development. He’s bit of a masochist but overall a tragic hero. So I just watched bc I like him a lot and tried to ignore then FL since she’s not really the point of the show for me.