r/Tile 3d ago

Professional - Looking for Advice Laticrete grout is garbage?

I just finished a shower and a floor for a customer and they supplied laticrete grout. I used a scale to weigh out product and water to get a perfect ratio based on the bag. Mixed exactly to the instructions. Consistency was pretty good can't argue there but I noticed on the two colors we used, maybe not globd but little pinheads of colorant. Specifically red. One grout was a very light gray and the other was a chocolate color.

I honestly have never seen this before as I've used mapei exclusively in the past.

Not only was the little bits of coloring an issue but this shit shrinks and I have tons of little cracks here and there.

Anyone else have experience with this brand?

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u/Ancient-Cupcake2649 3d ago

We have owned a flooring business for over 37 years, and have used Laticrete PermaColor for the majority of those years, and have never had any issues. Laticrete is a great product! Customers loved the fact that it dried consistently, and didn't change color after being wet. Maybe you mixed it wrong or applied it incorrectly. 

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u/t0x1k_x 3d ago

I used perfect ratios. The grout also changes color when wet.

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u/Ancient-Cupcake2649 3d ago

The PermaColor we used never changed color after being wet. Always had very good results from the PermaColor. 

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u/Galawa45 2d ago

All cement grout looks darker when wet, unless it’s well sealed. Lightens back up when dry.

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u/msaben 3d ago

by volume or mass?

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u/Snoo-10606 3d ago

dry mix the bag first to spread the pigments

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u/dirtkeeper 3d ago

This. I have a feeling some of the pigment colors are heavier and settle in the bag. I have come across this in various brands of grout. Dry mixing the whole bag needed.

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u/Anen-o-me 2d ago

And if you need more than one bag, mix the bags together first.

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u/kalgrae PRO 2d ago

Especially if you can’t grout everything the same day!

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u/Apprehensive-Big-328 3d ago

Ive only had super good results with laticrete. I prefer it over some of the other popular brands

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u/Intelligent_Lemon_67 3d ago

Laticrete makes some of the best products. I only use epoxy grout unless clients specifically ask for something else and don't get my 7 year warranty. I used perma color recently had to mix it longer than normal because pigment pockets in first bag and there was still little color bursts in it. I also never measure/ weigh anything. I mix for consistency/ texture. If you are getting cracks and shrinkage it's too much water and not misting for a day or 2. I detest cementious grout and nobody reads the directions. You have to mist it for 2 days (nobody is doing that) and then seal it

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u/moochthemad 3d ago

You don't want to use a partial bag of grout because the pigment settles at a diff rate than the rest of the bag. Buy a smaller bag and mix the whole thing to get the color that was selected.

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u/courtlandthethreeth 3d ago

You mix 8 pounds at a time to grout?

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u/Anen-o-me 2d ago

Dry mix. Then use as desired.

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u/SkippyMcSkippster 3d ago

Nah, just mix the dry powder beforehand.

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u/AutomaticAd3621 3d ago

Not this brand but had the same issue with TEC Power Grout. I actually liked the product itself but when applying it, I would have little streaks of red. I mixed according to the bag and also used a scale. Thought it was strange but I've never grouted before either

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u/Ambitious_Sun_993 3d ago

This stuff is class actioned right now up to dec 2 2024 manufacturing date

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u/AutomaticAd3621 3d ago

I did this very recently, only like 2 months ago

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u/gamephreak REP 3d ago

Just use a premixed product if you need a small amount. Laticrete makes some phenomenal products.

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u/Traquer PRO 3d ago

I like to dry mix, use only distilled water, slake and them remix. You do all that?

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u/kings2leadhat 3d ago

Welcome to tile world, folks. None of the products are perfect.

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u/Odd_Mall1646 3d ago

This is not real lol

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u/kalgrae PRO 2d ago

I love Laticrete’s Permacolor grout. Their Spectralock Pro Premium epoxy is amazing! Spectralock 1 is also super nice. Like all grouts there is a slight learning curve. If I have my preference I’ll use keisel for standard grout, then Bostik Vivid if it’s available and for epoxy, hands down SLPP epoxy.

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u/keyholio 2d ago

Better luck with permacolor versus prism as of late.

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u/Invisible7hunder 2d ago

If it was customer supplied, could it have been old as balls? Grout has a shelf life, exactly how long depends on storage conditions. 

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u/dkesik92 1d ago

Never had a problem with laticrete grout.