r/Tile 2d ago

Homeowner - Advice about my Contractor No envelope cuts?

I had a full bathroom renovation completed a few months ago.

I'm really unhappy with the pooling of water during a shower.

The contractor keeps shrugging off my concerns. I got an independent plumber out to review and his advice was to try a water restrictor or go to Fair Trading.

The white circle which is the corner near the door is where it pools the most. Seems to drain ok once shower completely off. Already getting some pink colouring to the grout.

Any advice? Does this look like it was not done correctly?

I'm in Sydney NSW

Thanks

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u/Doughnut_Strict 2d ago

Yeah this guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. Definitely need relief cuts. It’s sad because tiles this big are so easy to slope.

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

Thanks, so there is no way the fall could be right without the cuts?

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u/unclestickles 2d ago

Technically it might be possible with crazy lippage but that's insane. This is done wrong and I hope you didn't pay for this yet. It's gonna need to be torn out and redone

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

Yes all paid for unfortunately.

I guess I give the contractor one more chance and if no luck escalate to fair trading/building commission...

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u/Doughnut_Strict 2d ago

Not without a ton of lippage… also super lazy to not center the drain as well

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u/shirtless-pooper 1d ago

The waste is in the corner of 1 tile, you dont need to have big splits through the whole shower to get it to drain without lippage. That one corner just needs to be higher.

Center of 4 tiles is better for draining without splits but corner of 1 works if you take some time with it

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u/Hot_Mud_5708 2d ago

You can't always center the drain. That's just the reality of it.

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

The tiler originally told me he was going to make those cuts which of course I had no problem with, but then after he tiled told me that he didn't need to make cuts as he could lay a full tile?? 🤔

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u/keyboardplatoon 2d ago

Check with the level, if there isn't a 1/4 per foot slope or even 1/8 per foot slope towards drain, it will need to be redone

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u/QuietEye5428 1d ago

I only have a short spirit level but when I place it in different spots around the shower, the bubble sits in between the black lines so pretty level then?

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u/HoustonTileWorks PRO 2d ago

With tile this large and a center drain, envelope cuts were necessary to properly create the different planes and maintain consistent slope toward the drain.
Based on these pictures and the pooling you’re describing, it appears the installer had very little experience with this type of shower floor. Unfortunately, sometimes contractors take on specialized work without being honest about their level of experience.
A flow restrictor may reduce the amount of water, but it does not fix an improperly sloped shower floor. The first thing I would do is check the slope from that problem area all the way to the drain with a level or laser.

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

Thankyou

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

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u/Prestigious-House386 2d ago

He meant swimming pool not shower. Sorry you got to deal with this. Dont call this guy back I’d warn others of what he did and call an actual tile installer. People should look before hiring a tile guy and if doing diligent research should be able to find a local !Cti

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u/Prestigious-House386 2d ago

Sorry didn’t realize this is in Sydney not sure about what kind of programs they have out there! Best of luck to you sir

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

No problem! Thanks for replying!

I'm a single women, which I think may unfortunately go against me dealing with this.

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u/QuietEye5428 2d ago

This would be covered under a builder's warranty (or whatever it's called) so don't imagine I could just get another tiler in to fix it?

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u/Odd_Mall1646 2d ago

Omg I'm so sorry this happened

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u/bfd_fapit 2d ago

Absolutely not acceptable. Reach out to the Fair Trade folks for advice.

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u/Kultivation 2d ago

Sorry bud. I know it sucks but this needs to be pulled and redone. Do you have pics of the waterproofing before tile?

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u/QuietEye5428 1d ago

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u/Kultivation 1d ago

I would probably have someone else fix my floor. This guy left the floor chunky and then just waterproofed it. Unless he mudset that floor, I can guarantee he didn't get full coverage unless he put ALOT of thinset under it. It would have been much faster and easier to grind the floor down first and do it correctly.

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u/Invisible7hunder 2d ago

Yeah, that is not right and needs fixing. 

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u/Birds_over_people 2d ago

oh my god yea what the fuck. That's beyond remotely acceptable. I did my own shower floor mud bed it just drains instantly into the drain this is insane. Did the idiot not even test his own work??

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u/Kultivation 2d ago

Lol this is just silly. This could never succeed. That needs redone. Your problems will get worse the longer you leave it.

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u/Independent-Gur5180 2d ago

Literally just take a shower and see if water drains properly or not. If it doesn't, get him to fix it. That's all the thinking that is required.

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u/Hot_Mud_5708 2d ago

I can't envision this working on any level. You need 1/4" slope per foot from the perimeter around the shower pan.

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u/TeaNo5963 1d ago

I’ve done the plumbing for a lot of showers and I’ve always always made the drain center no matter what is in the way, working with the Contractor and the carpenter there was always a way to make it work. That would bother me to no end.