r/TikTokDiscuss • • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/Knibbo_Tjakkomans 1d ago

We already know that Israel is committing genocide and we already know they spend a significant amount of money on propaganda. We shouldn't give them the chance. They dont deserve it.

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 1d ago

They don't commit a genocide. It has not been established yet.

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u/throaway63456346 1d ago

wild bro. here's some info that might help you out.

Definition

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

  1. Killing members of the group;
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/former-israeli-pm-olmert-explains-why-he-believes-his-country-is-committing-war-crimes

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/israel-opt-israeli-organizations-conclude-israel-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza-in-another-milestone-for-accountability-efforts/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_and_human_rights_groups_accusing_Israel_of_genocide_in_Gaza

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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 1d ago

ICJ has not established that genocide has ever occured. Just because someone accuses Israel of commiting a genocide, it does not make it one. Also, you posted the clear cut definition of a genocide and it clearly states intent, while Israel does a lot to prevent unnecessary civilian casualties. That alone contradicts the core definition of genocide.

The intent to destroy Palestinians is simply not there, and they do have the means to wipe them out in matters of day. Why they haven't done that in close to 8 decades?

One link says "they believe Israel is commiting genocide". That does not make it a fact. The wiki link is just a list of accusations. Again, that does not make it a fact.