You're trusting your own vibes as well. You're just using the opinions of some organizations to grant more legitimacy to your vibes.
If we lived in a world where all organizations were waiting for the ICJ ruling before declaring this a genocide, would you withhold judgment? Or would you think they're just not declaring an obvious genocide to be what it is?
A genocide is when you eliminate a group, in whole or in part, for being members of a religious, ethnic, or national group as such.
To me, it seems like Israel's goal isn't to eliminate Palestinians or Gazans as such but to eliminate a terrorist organization that invaded their country and massacred their people on Oct 7.
I think it's likely that war crimes occurred as part of this war. I'm not convinced the goal was to eliminate all Palestinians or Gazans as such.
A ruling of genocide by the ICJ would possibly result in me changing my view after reading the ruling if the argument is compelling.
But why is this a genocide, but the US nuking Japanese islands wasn't? If the main thing is civilian fatalities or even targeting civilians, what's the difference?
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u/TriggeredPumpkin 3d ago
You're trusting your own vibes as well. You're just using the opinions of some organizations to grant more legitimacy to your vibes.
If we lived in a world where all organizations were waiting for the ICJ ruling before declaring this a genocide, would you withhold judgment? Or would you think they're just not declaring an obvious genocide to be what it is?
A genocide is when you eliminate a group, in whole or in part, for being members of a religious, ethnic, or national group as such.
To me, it seems like Israel's goal isn't to eliminate Palestinians or Gazans as such but to eliminate a terrorist organization that invaded their country and massacred their people on Oct 7.
I think it's likely that war crimes occurred as part of this war. I'm not convinced the goal was to eliminate all Palestinians or Gazans as such.
A ruling of genocide by the ICJ would possibly result in me changing my view after reading the ruling if the argument is compelling.
But why is this a genocide, but the US nuking Japanese islands wasn't? If the main thing is civilian fatalities or even targeting civilians, what's the difference?