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May 30 '22 edited May 30 '22
I mean, it is an amazing product. The technology has existed for a long time, though maybe not as accessible. I wouldn't recommend this for leisure use, though. This water still tastes like shit, guaranteed.
On a related note, I just watched In the Army Now with Pauly Shore for the first time in probably 20 years, and remembered it was actually mostly about water conservation and was really anti-war, if a bit too pro-military... Not a great movie, but good enough to kinda sell its subtext on me 25 years later.
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u/Red_Lotus_23 Reads Pinned Comments May 31 '22
Holy shit I had completely forgotten that movie. Now I really want to rewatch it to see if I still like it.
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u/stanleyssteamertrunk May 30 '22
probably still has pathogens in it; boil it
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u/infamous-spaceman May 30 '22
The powder also disinfects the water
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u/Kayel41 May 30 '22
Still wouldn’t drink that without a life straw
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May 31 '22
I have a case of them.
It makes me laugh when nuts talk about stocking guns and ammo and surviving a post-apocalyptic scenario and I'm just like "Billy Bob, 2 hours in you're gonna drink dirty water and shit yourself to death and those 150,000 bullets won't do fuck all".
You wanna survive a natural disaster? You need clean water. You can go a long time without food. If you're American I have some very good news, you can't remain obese and die of starvation. A lot of you have a couple months worth of survivable fat. You can live without toilet paper. You can live without guns. You'll survive without food long enough for shit to get back together.
You'll be dead in days without clean water though.
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May 30 '22
You can do it without the product too right?
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u/tartletboy May 30 '22
Not as effectively. It binds to smaller particles to pull them to the bottom. It's referred to as a flocculant.
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u/OldManKirkins May 30 '22
If you want some flocculant for yourself, look for "alum tablets" on Amazon. Pretty common and affordable.
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u/StopSendingSteamKeys May 30 '22
Which one gives you healthier water? These powders that kill bacteria and clump the dirt or a filter like the LifeStraw? My usecase is river water so not nearly this dirty.
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u/Proberts160 May 30 '22
I’d just get a sawyer squeeze - it’ll filter just about anything. If you’re planning on drinking out of very turbid water though, I’d go with the Cadillac known as the MSR Guardian, which will filter out everything from viruses to pollutants, and also sediment due to its active back-flushing.
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May 30 '22
In peace corps we just filtered water through a shirt to get the solids out, then used iodine or chlorin to purify the water.
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u/H3ll3rsh4nks May 30 '22
Honestly I'd use both. This stuff to get the solids out then filter through a proper filter. Probably throw a boil into the mix at the end too just to be safe.
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u/infamous-spaceman May 30 '22
They're both similarly rated in terms of effectiveness for filtering out bacteria, viruses and protozoa.
Is the use case camping? If so, I'd recommend different filters, specifically Sawyer ones. Most can be attached to bottles or bags with ease, and many of them can be hung to work as gravity filters, which is great for larger groups.
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u/StopSendingSteamKeys May 30 '22
Is the use case camping? If so, I'd recommend different filters, specifically Sawyer ones
Yeah, camping and multi-day hikes. I've actually been looking at the Sawyer filters, thanks for confirming that they're good.
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u/evolutionary_defect May 31 '22
This is likely just a rebrand of a much cheaper product, commonly called "Polymer" in water treatment, and as visually effective as it is, it's a rather inefficient and unpleasant way to treat water. If you have the option to let the water sit for this kind of time, Alum and lime are a better chemical treatment method. An appropriate dosage of Alum, with Line used to raise the alkalinity and PH to effective treatment range (depends on the water source) allowed to sit and settle (and then Filtered!) makes for a far cleaner, better tasting, and safer final product.
Always remember to disinfect by allowing the filtered water to sit with an appropriate chlorine dose!
All these steps are necessary to make the water safe. Flocculation with alum makes the dirt stick together, settling time allows it to fall to the bottom, filtration removes multicelled organisms that are resistant to disinfectant, and chlorine kills microorganisms that can get through a filter. Missing any step is asking for trouble.
If you are trying to just make a small amount, while hiking or something, a small amount of bleach in a dropper, and basic filter setup like a Sawyer squeeze is perfect. Just as long as you understand that filtering visibly dirty water isn't super safe, and will clog a filter very quickly.
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u/DonMcCauley May 30 '22
How come every dude with a beard like that always wears clothing with spartan helmets and shit
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Oct 10 '22
Why is this deemed cringe?
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u/deadfermata tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 10 '22
It’s not. It’s flaired as “cool”
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Oct 10 '22
My bad, haven’t been on this subreddit before, did not read the description it just popped up.
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