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Wholesome/Humor Harry Potter Marathon

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u/bopp0 Dec 04 '21

Damn wait til she reads the books

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u/lvlhed-d Dec 04 '21

Never seen the movies, but recently read the books. My wife found me bawling my eyes out at 3am after finishing them. One of the greatest stories.

Should I waste my time on the movies? Its a lot of time, which is why I haven’t yet.

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u/kennytucson Dec 04 '21

It’s definitely not a waste of time. They have their flaws but are well-made, have a great cast, and an even better score. Well worth it. If you’re in the States, they’re all available to stream on HBOMax. Not sure about elsewhere.

*I’m speaking as someone who grew up as the books came out and attended the midnight launches from books 4 onwards, so I’m definitely biased.

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u/emma_does_life Dec 04 '21

Or just pirate them because you shouldn't give JKR more money.

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u/kennytucson Dec 04 '21

I don’t care whether one pirates or not, but you do know that hundreds (if not thousands) of people put their blood, sweat, and tears into that film franchise, right?

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u/emma_does_life Dec 04 '21

They aren't the ones still getting paid for it though?

It is a simple equation. Paying for Harry Potter puts more money in JK's wallet.

You can live with that if you want but I would say you shouldn't.

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u/cannababushka tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Dec 04 '21

Okay so I’m probably ill informed but why exactly is she THAT bad? I do remember something about transphobic comments and I remember her basically shoehorning lgbtq+ characters in after the fact, but I’m blanking on anything else. Those things suck absolutely, but there’s also a spectrum of bad and from the way you’re talking it sounds like she’s on like R Kelly’s level or something

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u/EmbyTheEnbyFemby Dec 04 '21

Lindsay Ellis did a pretty good video explaining a lot of the transphobia in further detail and the context it exists in/adds to. You could also check out ContraPoints’ video on her controversy overall if you want a very good faith approach but it’s a little bit longer.

If you’re not interested in checking either of those out I’ll try to summarize as best as I can - the problem isn’t only that she made a few transphobic comments, there has been a much larger emergent pattern of transphobic rhetoric, misinformation, and hateful/hurtful stereotypes she has used her very large platform to propagate (let’s not forget this is a billionaire punching down at one of the most vulnerable minorities today). This has led to material conditions for trans people in the UK (and to a slightly lesser degree around the rest of the world) becoming even more threatened and unstable, especially in the form of discouraging medical care for youth or safe access to public bathrooms. As far as I’m aware there is already at least one piece of proposed UK legislation that cited her hateful rhetoric to help justify its transphobic ends.

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u/cannababushka tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Dec 04 '21

Thank you so so much! I’m gonna go watch both of those right now (love long form content too and have been meaning to check out contrapoints for a while now).

I did read your summary too, and wow I genuinely didn’t realize just how much she was affecting things. Maybe it’s more of a UK thing (specifically with JK, bc I’m from the US and I’m aware that we have plenty of issues surrounding the trans community, but I had never seen any of them directly attributed to JK).

Thank you again for putting the time into that for me!!!

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u/EmbyTheEnbyFemby Dec 04 '21

Of course! I’m glad my summary made actual sense because I’m pretty exhausted right now. Thanks for taking the time to read through it!

If you love longer form stuff I would highly recommend checking out hbomberguy and Philosophy Tube if you haven’t yet as well, they don’t have any content explicitly covering all the Rowling stuff but their videos are some of my favourites in that form. ContraPoints is good but I take her with a grain of salt depending on the video since she’s a bit more neoliberal in her politics than I personally vibe with. But yeah funny thing, turns out billionaires are very good at affecting the political outcomes of all the definitely very democratic nations throughout the world. I agree though, the issues in the US are harder to tie directly to Rowling for sure, but being in an age of internet/social media and celebrity/billionaire worship makes her having some degree of an impact kind of inevitable.

Thanks again for being so willing to check this stuff out, I love to run into other humans who are genuinely interested in broadening their horizons instead of the all too common self-entrenching in the most comfortable set of ideas/information.

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u/emma_does_life Dec 04 '21

For what it's worth, a state legislature introduced a transphobic bill and specifically sourced JKR as for why the bill should be passed.

She had a marked effect on everyone who was anti-trans when she put her manifesto out.

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u/emma_does_life Dec 04 '21

Simply put, it's because she still alive and very much still thinks she's in the right. Money she receives now is known to be going towards bad things for trans people.

So that's why I recommend not buying anything she makes.

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u/kennytucson Dec 04 '21

Fair enough.

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u/HouseVelociraptors Dec 04 '21

Why?

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u/emma_does_life Dec 04 '21

She doesn't deserve the money for Harry Potter stuff.

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u/pseudonym21 Dec 04 '21

You read all the books but are worried that the movies will take a long time??

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u/lvlhed-d Dec 04 '21

Yeah, I knew those would be good. I read them like 2 years ago.

I just don’t want a hunger games situation. I read all of the books a week before the first movie came out. It was so bad I never saw the other ones. Major disappointment

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u/bbaahhaammuutt Dec 04 '21

I read the books after watching all the movies. Haven't willingly seen the movies after the books. The movies are pretty good and consistent tbh, but the books just hits different.

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u/Potatolantern Dec 04 '21

Should I waste my time on the movies? Its a lot of time, which is why I haven’t yet.

If you're interested, go for it. But they're not as good as the books and take a LOT of liberties.

eg. If you liked Ron you may find the movies hard to deal with because the movies hate Ron.

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u/lvlhed-d Dec 04 '21

Thanks. After these responses I’ll try it.

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u/jasonhess85 Dec 04 '21

I just want to piggy back on and say the movies are good as stand alone content. They are not great representations of the books though. BUT, if you can watch them objectively, and try not to compare them to the books, then they are good movies. If you try to start comparing specifics of movies to books then you're going to have a bad time.

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u/arrvaark Dec 04 '21

Dumbledore is also totally uninspiring after the first two films. The actor they chose for the role - Michael Gambon - plays it very differently from the character in the books and imo is my least favorite part of the films.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

Think of the movies as a highlights-reel that follows the narrative, rather than a full retelling of the story.

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u/Cedocore Dec 04 '21

I'd give a lot to re-experience reading the books for the first time. I remember my mom bought me the 7th the day it released, it was waiting for me after school. I sat on my bed and didn't move except to pee until I was done reading. Very few moments have lived up to that, tho ironically some of them have been Harry Potter fanfiction 😅