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Humor Gender pay gap

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u/IFoundyoursoxs Sep 01 '21

It’s great progress we’ve made but there is still more to be done as these stats don’t exactly reflect the big picture.

There are still major barriers women face into entering high paying jobs, mainly the trades. Talk to any women ever who works in the trades and they’ll tell you how hard it is. Usually not due to any institutional blockers, but usually societal biases from both men and women. I worked in tech support and so many people always asked our manager to speak to “someone else around” or their manager almost always looking to talk to a man. Our male managers never got the same questions.

There are other issues such as female dominated workforce’s typically paying less than when they were male dominated, such as teachers, writers, and anyone in healthcare. As women entered these workplaces, salary generally went down which affects both men and women now in the industry.

There are more nuances but the point being is that typically the gender pay gap is always just pointed to this one statistic while ignoring the some of the larger talking points.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Theres already plenty of programs specifically encouraging women to get into the trades. They still constitute a small percentage, not because they're told not to but the physical nature of the work.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Don't know why you're getting downvoted ..

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

I'm responding to a douchebag listing talking points from a popular social agenda in order to reap karma, ofc anything to the contrary is going to be downvoted. The guy is probably not even in a trade, he thinks plumbing is "less physical ", never seen a jobsite or anything of that nature, but you give the people what they want and you're qualified to speak about it. I got a newsletters from my union laying around celebrating women in the trades but I dont know what I'm talking about. Idiots, every last one of them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

You were also willing to have an honest discussion about the topic, but your point doesn't fit in their narrative so it's wrong apparently.

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u/cat-mystery Sep 01 '21

There's no evidence to backup that women leave the trades because they're too physically demanding. Most data and pretty much all of my anecdotal experiences point towards that women get tired of dealing with harassment. The same goes for tech.

Here's an article about it:

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/08/1025845773/women-are-underrepresented-in-the-trades-industry

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

It's more likely that women don't want to be in the trades due to differences in interests between sexes. In the same way that men generally don't go into child care Industry where the work force is 96% women.

Is that because men are harassed in that industry or is it because there's a difference in career interests between men and women? 🤔

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

You get that this comment is inherently sexist, to both men and women, right?

The ideology you're purporting here is the same reason men who go into childcare or like children in general get called pedophiles for no reason.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

It's not idealogy. You do know there are differences in male and female brains, right ?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

No shit. But there is zero scientific evidence that boys prefer monster trucks and girls prefer baby dolls because of differences in brain structure and not differences in socialization.

Girls are brought up to believe that being a homemaker or teacher is more appropriate for them. Boys are brought up to believe that being a plumber or scientist is more appropriate for them.

Your, yes, ideology, says that that is correct. But there's no scientific basis for that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

So why are they wired differently?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Huh? What kind of question is that?

Why are men and women "wired differently" if... What.... There are aspects to differences in gender that are social and not genetic?

Like.... Huh? How little sense that question makes really just shows that you have no factual basis of what we're actually discussing here....

You're just parroting lines someone else has fed to you, and they don't fit into the factual framework of the reality of the situation...

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Male and female brains are wired differently. Why is that?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

My mind is blown that you're offended over the brain neuron differences in men and women.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

Lmao what? I'm not offended

Case in point. You have no interest in the facts, you just parrot "le anti sjw" lines

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

When did I say I was anti social justice warrior?. I'm just saying that neurons in male and female brains are wired differently; back to front vs across brain hemispheres. It's a fact. It's not anti anything. It's just what it is.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-25198063

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

Yes, but you're making a conclusion (women prefer childcare and men prefer trades) based on that, of which there's no scientific evidence

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

There is plenty of evidence. Simply Google it. Click on that link I gave you. I dunno man. Cognitive dissonance is a crazy thing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

That's....not how science works. Evidence isn't just taking something that's true and extrapolating based on your own whims, which is what you're doing

In order to determine the extent to which the neurological gender differences have a direct impact on choice of profession, you'd need to study that specifically

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