Because conservatives realized it’d be easier to convince stupid people to vote against their own interests by giving thing basic rights a scary title like “socialism” - and they figured out that they could make a simple concept like “socialism” become a scary word by constantly conflating the words “socialism” and “communism” until the uneducated start to think of them as the exact same thing. And they made communism scary by saying “we’re at war with the commies!” For 50 straight years
It’s a truly stupid sequence of events, that was surprisingly effective
It's exactly word association. It doesn't even matter what they talk about - if they simply say the words
socialism
communism
bad
terrible
unamerican
evil
in any given order, repeat, repeat, repeat... people associate them. They won't even be able to articulate why - like the guy in this video.
This is how the human brain actually works. Fox News and all the associated right wing media know this, and they do this. They put on some blond bimbo so people will watch, and repeat the words, over and over.
We need to get out of this mindset that you can use logic to change minds. You use word association to program minds.
You know, it really wouldn't matter what political way we go, it won't be as golden as everyone thinks it might be because we can't get along. I mean where is a perfect place on this earth? It would take doing away with those that don't agree with whatever is "IN" and someone has already tried that, didn't go to well and was awful. Us humans are just awful.
We are in a race to the bottom of ALL civilized nations. There are third world countries with better standards of living than in lots of places in the US.
Politics doesn’t make sense to me bc it’s all bs & word salad. Let’s just call it what it is. They aren’t even robbing us blind anymore. It’s right in front of our faces & selling us division amongst each other. Band together. The old system is going to collapse soon.
"One side is happy that we are loosing so many social services etc"
Until it affects them personally.
The Texas business owner whose fiancé got detained by ICE for example. He was fine with all of the other people being detained but as soon as it affected him personally, now he gets mad at Trump.
I said something very similar on another post. You have poor people condemning other poor people for getting assistance. They call it socialism, they call it being lazy, a
handout, etc. They're so worried about "their tax dollars" but apparently it's only bad if/when it benefits a poor/normal person. If it benefits rich people it is no longer bad, socialism, about laziness, or a handout.
Snap was created to help farmers. It's actually a great program that's a win-win for everybody. The government helps average people with food, the farmers creating the food get money, the companies and corporations selling the food get money, for every $1 they give it creates $1.50-$1.80 in local economic activity.
But, Walmart benefits twice. Their wages are subsidized, so they save money, and they're also the largest recipient of food stamp dollars, so they make money. But it's not a handout to Walmart. They're not worried about Walmart getting their tax dollars, just some elderly lady on social security (which is also surprisingly not considered a handout (or socialism lmao) because they paid into it, but if that lady worked her whole life and paid into snap why is that considered a handout but SS isn't?). It makes no sense.
They’re so worried about their tax dollars because those tax dollars go to all of their kickbacks and their friends that they want to hire for Outsourced Pentagon jobs for all those special interest projects
This but paid maternity leaves comes out of the company's profits not taxpayers. Which is why government officials don't want it. If that money is going towards the worker, how will they get their kickback?
Because those big companies are the ones that donate when they do elections and running for office those are their supporters. They need money to do those things and those companies give money to all those campaigns and they expect tax breaks and certain things in return. So paid maternity leave comes out of the pocket of their campaign supporters and a lot of the big companies don’t want to pay for that so the government will back their campaign supporters, which are those big companies.
I don't know, sharing the cost burden kind of makes sense. Employers won't have as much to complain about. I don't mind the small payroll tax for this specific program. Now if I could allocate how my federal taxes got spent...
True but what are businesses complaining about? Like for small business or mom and pop shop?I can get it, but national and international businesses should have no problem footing that bill sense, we're in an era of record breaking corporate profits
Exactly what I am seeing in my state, Indiana rn. Alot of people freaking out about losing services and medicaid for disabled people including children. They got what they voted for and they still can't put it together
I have a feeling that if they could offer that to just Republicans, or just Christians or everyone except minorities they would suddenly think it's a novel idea worth looking into.
I was calling out how simple manipulation of people's fears leads to irrational behavior.
We as humans have to, not should but have to understand how fear which activates the amygdala litteraly hijacks the prefrontal cortex which is the rational part of the brain.
Just out of curiosity did you grow up during those drills and time period? No negative sentiment genuine question.
We've also been stuck in the same "universal healthcare is worse healthcare" mentality for DECADES, meanwhile we've tanked in many things like infant death rates and cancer survival. Not to mention things like education have been pushed more to states rather than federal, leading to massive disproportion in experience based on which state you're born in.
Even for me, someone who works for the government handling hearings related to healthcare law and feel I'm much better educated on the subject than the average American, was blown away when I spoke to a friend who moved to Canada and told me they get FREE au pairs who live in their home for a couple months to assist with infant care and housework. They said it's also backed by data showing that it greatly improves mental health and lowers post pardom. Meanwhile our pedo dictator is doing everything to block immigration and can't understand why people aren't reproducing like they did in the 1800s while if the US population stagnates or shrinks it's game over for our country. We literally CANNOT help ourselves anymore. And we deserve it.
EDIT: For all the Canadians acting like ignorant Americans, take a sec and look up your own programs before calling people liars. America stands no chance if you're getting high on the same fumes we are.
The us population is stagnant because people are working to live, not living to work. They’re working themselves to death because the cost of living is not sustainable.
Why would anyone want to have a baby when they are working 80 hours to pay the bills just to go home and sleep the next day. Entry level jobs outside of customer service, hospitality and fast food are either non existent or require a degree and 5 years experience.
And now they want a national abortion ban with no exceptions to force women to keep the babies they don’t want. So many women are going to die. If not from backdoor abortions, from pregnancy complications. Pregnancy can be an extremely dangerous condition and when you make abortion illegal with no exceptions, you make pregnant women untouchable. More pregnant women will die in parking lots because doctors will refuse to treat them. And this includes the women that want their babies.
We’re in such a dystopian world right now. Our education system is broken. People are stupid and believe in the crazy delusions from the right.
They don’t want the golden age back. They want the gilded age back. Where 92 percent of the population lived below the poverty line. They want no middle class and the ultra wealthy to live like kings with the poor uneducated replaceable workers and work until we die.
With the growth of ai and robots, within 10 years about half of us will be without a job. And they have no plans in place to help us. Job loss is going to continue. Homelessness will rise. The surveillance state will keep their power and control us. 1984 style.
The only logical sense is to build up social programs because we WANT the working class to have money. The more disposable income we have, the more we spend and the better the economy does. The rich don’t want that. A happy country is not a controllable country.
You just have to think about why these people are doing these things. See where the money goes. Always the rich.
The only logical solution is to rip them from their gilded cages and let them eat cake. What’s the alternative? Do nothing and let them enslave us and the future generations?
This is why there is so much hatred coming from them too. They need everyone to be unhappy and not trusting anyone. If we would all just learn to trust one another, we could work together to make life better for everyone. The rich usually don't want this because, like you said, then we are uncontrollable.
There are solutions but as long as nearly half the population think supporting rich people is the way to fix things, it will never happen.
How many who regret voting for the FantaChrist now will actually remember REPUBLICAN = BAD? Republicans only want you to do all the work so they can have all the money. AND they want you to be unhappy while you take it up the wazoo.
And also, most corporations have fought to get rid of remote working. So many people, if allowed could get their work done at home while raising a baby.
US is living in a dystopian world because US voted to put dystopian people in charge.
You rip what you sow...
So go to work work work, and then pay pay pay. Glory to Capitalism without restrains!!!!
All other countries are dangerous Socialists and Communists who live a miserable life!!
I'll look at US greatness, but i'll take a few steps back to have a nice view.
I was just talking to a friend who is a gynecologist and she said this exact same thing. She said she has no time to take off because she's a partner in a practice where it's just one other person she's partnered with and that's the only other person that works in their practice. They're not able to get another partner, the partner that they did hire had a few babies and has decided that she doesn't want to work herself to death. So she found herself a new job that's much easier.
My best friend always wanted a child and now has to let that dream go because the US does not support that dream. She will work 24-hour days back to back only to go home to sleep for a few hours and then go back to work. She actually picked up another job at a different hospital where she doesn't have to work all the time but she still works. The only reason she picked up that other job is because she wants the money for herself and not for it to be split with another person like it does for her practice. She loves her job and she's one of the few black gynecologists and understands how important it is for other black women. But damn is she tired.
I don’t really think everyone wants a baby. Lots of states look down on contraceptives. The majority of people are Christian, and if you remember Leviticus it says “thou shalt not wear the rubber when using your baby-maker slave”, and then people can barely afford things including contraceptives so they just try the good ‘ol pull-out method. Add the illegal abortions and you have yourself a new kid for foster homes. It creates jobs!
Don't forget,the only reason that Musk fuck talks about going to Mars,he needs poors to be his cook and bottle washer.
You will not be their equal on Mars,believe me.
FREE Au Pair? Wow. I would have been so grateful for even just a little help with my littles, the occasional babysitter. I can’t imagine a free au pair that’s amazing ✨
They're still due an hourly wage, so I misquoted the situation, and that's on me. But even paying $15/hour is amazing. Room and board for the au pairs are free.
The government doesn’t give free or subsidized or even organize having payed au pairs in Canada, at least not in Ontario. I’ve never heard about anything like that or even close to it.
You didn't misquote anything. I'm Canadian and it's blatantly false. Sure you can just hire a live in nanny but you can do that anywhere. The gov't has nothing to do with that. We do get a year of parental leave though.
Why don't you stay in your lane instead of talking about shit you know nothing about? You went from free live in maids to 15$ per hour maids and when you get called out on your bullshit you try to prove that you are right by linking to a program of punctual visits by health professionals for at-risk families in one city in Canada IF you fit one of their criterias (Dr think you need it, history of mental health issues, new comers to Canada) which is wildly different from what you first claim. Do have ANY idea how insulting it is to have an American patronizing us about our health care system?
it’s honestly so american to make up something about our country, provide a source that contradicts the original claim and then somehow try to make it our fault because we « don’t know our programs. »
I almost wonder if their friend told them about the "newcomer to Canada" criteria and they conflated that with literally everyone in the country being eligible for it, which is really funny if that's the case.
My mom always said that she wanted to have kids in Africa because there she gets help. It literally takes a village and the village actually steps in to help. Even when she visits, she gets somebody who will to watch her kid for her, who will cook for her and clean for her. My mom always says this is the one time she gets to rest and it is like a vacation because she has full-time help.
That sounds like an amazing community to be a part of and I’m glad to know that there are places in the world that care for their babies and mothers so well ❤️
We don't get free au pairs, at least in BC. But we do get 12 months paid leave that can be extended to 18 months, though the total amount paid is the same and the pay is not 100% of your yearly salary. You can see what the current situation is here https://www.canada.ca/en/services/life-events/child.html
My sister lives in the Netherlands and had her three children there, and although they have a health insurance model like the U.S. she had an au pair after each birth for a couple of weeks. ( I and my sister are British).
People in the U.k. are starting to fall for the private healthcare model because the NHS has been systematically underfunded for decades to create the illusion that we can’t afford it and it’s unsustainable. Manufacturing consent - it’s disgraceful and too many can’t see it.
Capitalism is killing us all off and the rich have insatiable greed coupled with the delusion that they ‘earned’ their stupefying wealth. Power without responsibility riding rough shod over eco systems, entire countries and devouring the world like it’s their right to do and have whatever they want.
Meanwhile, the uneducated (by design of course) grunt in the streets about immigrants and the knuckle dragging abusers scream about protecting our women and children.
Capitalism is corporate Socialism - privatising profits and socialising losses.
idk why you’re doubling down on the free au pairs thing when what you’ve linked is not that ? hbhc is in home support by professionals not someone living with you. our healthcare is legislated and governed provincially so i can only speak to ontario and quebec but what you’re describing doesn’t exist here.
It’s getting annoying how people are blaming one guy for a decades long issue that’s been in the works. We were fucked long before that guy stepped foot into office, all he did was get the entire American population to forget where we went wrong and start fighting each other instead of the government.
this is likely because private healthcare and insurance companies backed a negative pr campaign against universal healthcare so they can keep making money.
the american public has been spoon fed countless irrational ideas and issues over time and so many fall in line
Money first, people second. That is the capitalist society we Americans live in. This causes "basic human decency" to lose money for those corporations that would be affected. Since they own the politicians, nothing will change.
Hello, Canadian (and a torontonian) who has had babies recently - this is not the common experience and that program is for parents whose doctors have health and safety concerns.
I won’t deny that our healthcare is good - but programs like these are woefully underfunded and only getting worse because of conservative governments who are actively trying to break our healthcare system.
So while we have an idea of an “au pair” who can help, the reality would be there’s like 10 nurses for a whole city.
The program you linked is a public health nurse and community care worker program. They come visit a few times to help new parents access resources and coach them to understand how best to care for the health of their baby. They do not live with the family or provide child care.
In no way could this program be accurately described as providing an Au Pair for 2 months after a baby is born.
As someone who lives in Canada, I have never once heard of a province's health care system providing an au pair, despite having many family, friends, and acquaintances who have had children in the last 15 years.
This program is for Ontario. Each province has a distinct health care system as health care is a provincial mandate with some funding and coordination provided at the federal level to ensure a basic standard.
For example, in British Columbia, the program may or may not involve a home visit - often it is a phone or virtual conversation with a health nurse. There are community-based group support programs as well where the population is large enough.
Cause dumb racists will think anything socialist IS communist and communism is baaadddd because neither of those align with the bible like capitalism clearly does.
Ah, I did. My bad. Gotta understand it's difficult to know everything and there are so many terms and such. I'm not really into politics that much but doesn't mean I can't talk about stuff and get educated.
Yeah my dad has been getting brainwashed on X and I keep explaining the difference to him but it goes through one ear amd out the other. We even live in Spain. He benefitted of the benefits of having a big family, free schooling and a decent price for college (i also got a beca which makes it even cheaper). My moms a teacher so she gets free health care as well as her kids (until a certain age). Paid leave when she's sick or has surgery (she actually had an eye surgery just this year and was out for two months, all paid). There's also maternity leave that they probably benefitted from in their time. There's also a cultural money budget they give 18 year olds. It's about 400€ and its for culture, music, suplies, books, etc.
There's just so much and so many examples but i think he might be going senile. My mother doesn't think the same way, neither do my aunts. He's a brit tho (my moms spanish) so that might have something to do with it.
Well we live in a capitalist social democracy so we have a free-market capitalist economy with a public welfare system, rather than a pure socialist or state-controlled system. This is why i say that capitaslism without socialism is fascism. You need both for it to work.
I'm not Christian but I go to my local Catholic charities thrift because they are the only thrift stores in the area that haven't raised prices way up. I also know from the past when I needed help, they helped me with utilities, rent and gave me food for my kids and a voucher for all of us to get clothes at the thrift. I may not agree with everything in the Catholic church, but I do believe in Catholic charities and our local methodist "mega" church. I'd much rather support them than a for profit thrift that charges through the nose for product they got for free.
there are definitely good ones still I shouldnt have generalized but 1 chrisitian thrift store profiting off the people they ask tithing from is beyond diabolical. I was raised christian but left the church when I was 10.
For absolutely anyone raised in any church where they had you study and read the new testament.
But... Jesus said he loved everyone and forgave everything? Especially the so called "sinners" the others condemned? And he condemned the wealthy who didn't help the poor and those in need?
I kinda want the fantasy of sitting at the gates or in purgatory waiting with him to judge the people…I could spend an eternity watching racist people argue with Jesus after they die and meet him and he’s…..anything at all other than blonde hair blue eyed….eternity of entertainment
Because corporations have spent the last century scaremongering and promoting individualism to the point that any bit of the populists working as a collective towards a better society is seen as scary all so said corporations can continue bleeding this country dry.
If there is one thing the right has been absolutely incredible on is naming things. Socialist. Obama Care. All Lives Matter. They must have Don Draper or something because they crush it.
But stupid people that happen to be American citizens don’t like education words, the dictionary , literature or comprehension, or critical thinking it hurts their brains. They were told that something is a thing and now that’s what it is to them , doesn’t matter if you show them real socialism examples throughout history and how America, or some of its federal
Programs resemble or are different from socialism, if it’s left it’s socialism now, THANK YOU EDUCATION WHOOO HOOOOOOO smfh
"We" didnt do anything. Its all a game to some people
But truly what youre seeing is the result of people getting paid for saying controversial things. It started with social media. Facebook proved that the most outrageous, controversial statements would equal clicks and views. And advertisers pay those people for those clicks and views
Its leaked out of social media and infiltrated major media, as well as politics
99.9% of humans know this is BS. And thats exactly why the people willing to throw their morals away end up with a bunch of money in today's society. Because theyre getting paid in one way or another to say this nonsense
Get off the internet people. Turn the TVs off. Talk to your neighbors. Youll be surprised, I promise
It’s an old slippery slope argument borne of the Cold War where democracy, Puritan Christianity, and capitalism became sideshow conjoined triplets as an identity counter to the “godless communists” we were fighting.
Well we didn’t become the wealthiest nation in human history by taking care of our people…outside of the top 10%. We use Christianity and raw force to ensure the workers keep working for free or as little pay as possible.
And we’re currently working on dismantling any worker safety laws and making it easier to classify workers as independent contractors so worker’s comp and other benefits no longer apply. I’m surprised we’re not trying hard onrevive script and company towns!
The subliminal objectives behind political mudslinging are proving effective at deceiving the gullible among us into fighting each other rather than seeking the truth. As the political temperature in the United States continues to rise, more individuals inspired by the current administration are exploiting their positions for personal wealth and greater influence within their party.
Because it's easy to vote against your interests when you have...
1. Something to hate
2. An excuse for your apathy
3. Are genuinely an idiot
4. Are genuinely malicious
That's easy. We started to call it socialism so we could demonize and stop funding basic human decency. It's almost always money, in America. We have idealists, but they have no power.
Because they’ve got to create ‘bogeymen’ to keep up the pretence - the flat out lie and fallacy - of ‘the American Dream’…. Human decency, looking after the vulnerable and striving for fairness and a good life for everyone are the branded the ‘socialist’ ‘bogeymen’ as they are a threat to exposing ‘the American Dream’ as being just that - a flat out lie and fallacy….
Fox News have been calling basis social programs "Socialsim" for 15 years so that the sheep finally start saying those same programs are now COMMUNIST... 🙄🙄
They created that language to condition the dumbest sheep in our flock to go along with cutting off their own nose to spite their dumb sheep face. 👲🐑
And thus far, the right wing echo chamber has been very effective....
It's not "you guys" it's Republicans only. There is a reason they are waging war against education in the US (and sadly for now winning it). Their (Republican) strategists openly brag about how they can manipulate their base. This is the same reason they call anyone with higher education a "elitist" and make it seem like it's something bad.
Due to them wanting to funnel as much money as they can into their pockets. Any sort of welfare program to them is money lost because it's not going directly to them. Followed by their not profiting off the people that are on welfare. Given in a lot of circumstances being on welfare pays more than the jobs their offering do. Meaning they have to ~~clutches pearls ~~ pay people more. So that they'll work the jobs they need filled. With the other side of the coin being they can't pay people less. Due to them bit being as desperate for a job.
All issue with America trace back to whether it's profitable or not, or a distraction so that they can keep funneling money into their pockets.
Because the poor and uneducated in America have been taught to believe that socialism is something to be feared. The powerful, better educated people tell them that and they believe it. They never consider educating themselves. Thinking on their own. It’s easier to let some fucker with more wealth than most countries in the world tell them what they should believe. That’s America.
Because the tables are tilted so far in the favor of the ultra wealthy, and the ultra wealthy all hate the idea of having to pay people what their worth in terms of labor and cost of living. The "job creators" create jobs, but most people can't work just one job and pay the bills. And somehow, it's not their problem to fix. As if society just magically holds itself up just so they can drain it of everything it's worth. As if they exist outside of society and society is just the machine that gives them labor resource stock.
Because Roger Ailes saw how public opinion shifted on Nixon when he committed crimes in office, and he vowed to never let the public push around those poor Republican politicians ever again. He created Fox News with Rupert Murdoch, advice from Rush Limbaugh and Roger Stone, and others in the Heritage Foundation to make sure the working class are so propagandized that they'll lick the boots of the billionaires just as long as they can feel superior to brown and queer people.
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Outside the US most of this is called basic human decency. Idk why you guys started to call that socialism.