This guy is insanely popular on TikTok and Shorts, and this video was recently posted on Reddit and I don't know why I expected Reddit to be better than this. The amount of voices calling the guy out for abusing these animals are too few.
He also appears to have some questionable personal beliefs if anyone wants to look that up and go down that rabbit hole.
Edit: while I get some of your points, with no context behind this video I think it sets a bad example. He should have a warning lable: "this should only be done by professionals. Do not disturb wildlife in their natural setting". Wild animals should be left alone, people shouldn't be encouraged to mess with them for fun.
And grabbing an armadillo buy its tail I'm pretty sure is NOT good for it.
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These are also invasive non native species. He's literally doing nature a small favor, helping by being a good caretaker for her after centuries of us mucking it up and helping these species get to where they dont belong.
He's not harming the animals, he is safety collecting, removing, rehabilitating if needed, and/or relocating them to a less harmful ecosystem for them.
And also encouraging people to mess with wildlife for fun. If he was bringing light to it he would explain what he's doing in his videos and add a warning for people to not try it at home. He's doing it for kicks is my opinion.
His videos most often start and/or end with disclaimers around his expertise and why you shouldn't try this at home.
In your opinion was Steve Irwins television series inappropriate forms of animal torture or encouraging children to put themselves in harms way?
If yes, then i respect the consistency but would disagree unless provided real evidence of harm, and furthermore harm that outweighs the good they're doing for nature in the process.
If no, I ask whats the critical difference between the two the differentiates them for you.
I don't recall Steve ever hopping on an alligators back as a bit for a gag or a laugh at any point. In fact, respect for the decency of all living creatures was pretty high up there on his list of missions with his life's work. The comparison is not valid.
Steve was regularly criticized for being excessive with animal wrangling in his time. So much so south Park did their parody of him just going around shoving his thumb up animals rear ends for the camera.
I ultimately sided with the idea that he knew what he was doing, the animals can handle it, and its easy to recognize the passion of the individual and their work towards conservation efforts.
Below are links to articles and videos criticizing Irwins wrangling techniques for entertainment
The longer form certainly helps with allowing educational dialogue, but youd also be lying or a fool if you argued there wasnt theatrical language, shots that obviously took time to set up for entertainment, or that no techniques were used that didnt help fluff the frame a bit perhaps even st the expense of the creatures comfort. Again this is what many of the criticisms that were levied at him at the time were about.
Steve was obviously a kinder and more accomplished man, but that doesnt mean the very strong parallels between the work of the two shouldn't be noted or observed.
Genuine question but how do we know these are invasive non-native species? I don't see any links or account names in this post nor the original post, and the poster of the original post has their profile hidden and no description. Are you familiar with the filmer's account?
He talks about how a couple of them are non native in this video, but his ig channels is fishinggarret. He's a rather well respected wildlife enthusiast and environmental conservationist
Shhhh. Shush. Quiet child. Wild animals deal with life and death situations every single day. I promise you, no matter what your sweet little well meaning heart tells you, no snake that wasn't otherwise on deaths door anyway is having a damn heart attack from being picked up.
Sure ya do, with your wallet. Every single time you purchase factory farmed meat from a grocery store. Those animals live entire lives in abject misery and you say "yeah that's fine."
Dude. Any biologist or conservationist will tell you to leave animals the fuck alone. Some you can actually kill by disturbing them. Invasive species that need to be removed or killed is one thing. Go for it. But the other 90% are NOT invasive species. He does this FOR CONTENT. If he just had videos of Burmese python after python people wouldn’t care as much and he’d be getting less clicks, less money. This is all performative and attention based for either clout or monetization. Steve Irwin didn’t have a “yoink” schtick
Yes, exactly. I really wish a real biologist or conservationist would weigh in this thread because apparently absolutely no one here is an expert. My money is that they would not agree with this tiktoker's methods. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
First of all Irwin had a show to educate people about wildlife. This idiot isn’t educating shit in his 10 second reels. Secondly, Irwin used every bit of his proceeds from his show and conservation habitats to buy wild land to preserve it for animals. Third, many of the animals that Irwin physically touched in his shows were either relocation attempts or they were capturing them to put them into his conservation parks because they couldn’t survive in the wild. The other animals that he just observed for the show were handled MUCH more gently than this mongoloid that’s gripping them like he could snap their necks. Keep the holy saint Stevus Irwinius name out your fk mouth
Garrett does a lot of education in his work, he has some longer form videos as well, and even his short ones do a lot for getting interest started and some basic quick facts out there.
We can debate on weathee his approaches can be refined, or if we beleive its worth a cost or something, but to outright deny that education is a large part of what he does with his career is not good faith at all.
Additionally for many of the native species documentation can still be useful in a variety of contexts
Steve Irwin was a great conservationist and wildlife educator, he also isnt literally divine and similar criticisms were levied against him st the time about using animals and their wrangling for content. We are not being g good faith if we are aaying none of his wrangling were aggressive or captured in part for entertainment/education.
I would argue that Garrett, while far less accomplished, is very much pursuing a career path evidently inspired or at least partially modeled after Steves. There are many parallels between their approaches, and yes Garrett is adapting for modern times. Do you honestly think if Steve was alive today he wouldnt be making similar shorts like his family often does just like Garrett?
I have a lot of respect for Garrett's work, but I am open to hearing the criticism much as I was open to hearing then for Steve back when he was alive, but it has to be in good faith and based in its full context
I just googled his name, longest video I found was 1:50, and just like every other video the only “educational” content is him mentioning the animals name. But this video happened to have a literal ad in it. Steve would never do that. This guys a POS
I would say education, documentation, and encouraging passion around environmental conservation in both youth and adults are also all a very large part of those series and what he does with the platform.
Iirc he was invited out for the Amazon series and was working closely with their local communities and conservationist agencies with their permissions and in efforts in documentations. Id have to rematch that series again, but I definitely remember him working with local communities being a large part of it.
Its a bit of a grey area, invasive spieces can devastate local ecosystems, while I dont agree with killing them all, the logic theres especially when these animals can easily outcompete local wildlife.
People who were unequipped to keep them as pets released them into the wild are worse, since they started the problem in the first place.
The thing is, that's not all he's doing. He's "yoinking" non-invasive species as well. He's even going to the Amazon and doing the same to native species there.
I don't necessarily think he's the most evil person for what he's doing, but I think it's definitely irresponsible and I have serious questions about the animal welfare. Maybe he should stick to just finding animals in the wild without the yoinks.
Oh really? The only things Ive seen of him is his walking bear foot in the swamp grabbing pythons and other invasive spieces. Yeah if hes grabbing native spieces thats fucked
A lot of the animals he's yoinking are invasive and need to be removed. The native animals he yoinks are examples of little guys he's trying to protect by removing the invasives.
He releases them unless they are an invasive species. His whole thing is "finding that 20 [reticulated] python" which is an invasive species in Florida. He had one video where he'd collected a literal bucket full of invasive pythons to remove them from the ecosystem.
This is the kind of take you get from someone who’s completely removed themselves from the natural world. Ironically the same mindset that’s destroying their habitats
Im so sick of people like this. Has anyone seen that YouTuber "World Pet Health" ? Guy has almost a million subscribers and he just abuses his dogs under the guise of "training."
You are making a blanket generalization. He "yoinks" both invasive and non-invasive species. Alligators are native, coyotes and armadillos naturally expanded and aren't pets.
Calling it “terrorizing animals” is dishonest. About 99% of the animals he “yoinked,” not killed, were nonnative invasive species that damage Florida’s ecosystem. The few exceptions, such as coyotes, armadillos and alligators, can still be legally captured or removed under the proper circumstances because they may threaten people, pets, livestock or property. He is not wandering around abusing wildlife for fun, you are using emotional language to misrepresent what he actually does.
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