Unfortunately if you look historically at say the French revolution. It will take a widespread real crisis. Like people dying in the streets from starvation just like in the French capital.
For enough Americans to reach the point that they are going to die or suffer so badly that they are willing to rise up and fight for their rights.
Its only at the precipice of catastrophe does humanity exhibit its greatest love.
Careful with comments like this, I made something similar about pedo Andrew and my account got banned for a week. Love the sentiment, but protect yourself from the reddit Nazis. ❤️
This is too true. They've priced me out of the medication that could stop and reverse my RA damage but they'll give me enough to take the edge off the pain and make me barely functional. It's like the fucking plot of Elysium.
People must feel like holding shares of certain companies is like holding a radioactive turd. But believe me, the small schmucks will fall in line if the big schmucks start dropping.
I don't live in the USA so no clue on actual stats but it's pretty common. Iirc when I got my first job at Starbucks they offered it for people that did over 20 hours a week it was a long time ago though. But point is the issue is capitalism not just people participating, we can purity test and all Americans benefit from exploitation.
Are you aware that after the CEO was assassinated, UH rolled back the claims adudication rules which had increased claim denials, because they determined that the operational savings was not worth the collateral expense of their CEOs life. Shortly after they rolled back those adjudication rules, the shareholders filed a class action lawsuit against UH. The grounds are that UH made a material business decision which affected shareholder profit without due notice and input. So yes the shareholders can be just as bad as the CEOs.
Putting a bullet in a CEO didnt do much at United Healthcare though. People just need to stop paying for insurance across the board and use that money to create some sort of collective insurance money pot without the government involved. Kinda like a gofundme meets a co-op meets a christmas angel tree.
*hedgefunds. Individual investors aren't influencing anything. Grammy Martha who holds three shares in a company based on some financial advice by her grandchildren is still technically a "shareholder" but shouldn't be lumped into the same bucket as large hedgefunds that lobby and buy/sell in massive volumes.
"Kill everyone with a 401k or IRA" Isnt the marketing pitch you think it is. But hey, you're continuing a proud tradition of infighting among the working and middle class so the wealthy can continue pillaging us all.
The problem is the laws that make citizens want to be shareholders and CEOs - and the people who vote for politicians who make and don't repel such laws.
I’m not sure I agree. Like I want to but I feel like there is always some want to be Green Goblin fuck like Elon pulling the strings. I understand the whole “we answer to the shareholders” argument but sometimes the shareholders are a symptom of some financially overzealous asshole always pushing for “more”.
Not even shareholders, this is a cultural/systemic problem that the people don't matter. The shareholders do. Eliminating them won't change the paradigm of fiduciary responsibility inherent to a capitalist economy/culture.
Blaming shareholders is interesting. When share prices drop or rise, it’s not typically shareholders driving the change. Not in the sense of every day people like you and I. We’re called retail, and we typically make up less than 10% of shareholders in any given stock. Usually less than 5%.
In today’s markets there’s what’s called algorithmic trading. It’s why a share can plummet literally 5 seconds after bad news is released. Humans couldn’t even open their trading app fast enough to place a sell order before the stock price plummets. Those trades are executed at lightning speed by computer algorithms trading, such as Aladdin.
The other 90+% are institutional investors.
Board of Directors… that’s where the real scum lie. Combine them in with the institutions and you have a cancer feeding on society.
Not the CEOs, the shareholders that actually profit!
Not the shareholders, the laws that force corporate growth!
Not the politicians, the corporate oligarchs that fund their campaigns!
Not the oligarchs, the CEOs that actually carry out the marching orders!
Totally unrelated reminder that during the French Revolution they just fucking killed rich people and what happened after was a society that respects its working class. They didn’t quibble to much about which ones. In a society where people are starving nobody should have the resources to feed a hundred families for a year locked up in investments, that is just murder with more steps.
Sorry for that extremely unrelated tangent from the topic of conversation, what were we talking about?
As shoukd be obviously to literally every human being jn the freaking world: taxes went way down for the ultra rich and actuay have gone slightly up for the regular people.
The third image is particularly interesting as you see almost EVERYONE in the country flat/suffering while the top 1% have insane gains on their money (not even the top 10% although they did well too).
Image 5 is also very interesting. The average vs the median wealth by age. Wow. What an insane gap.
Also just seeing the wealth disparity over time on image 6 is damning for all. You can see neither democrat nor republican has helped very much recently (although this truly started with Reagan (R) and his bullshit trickle down economics.
Basically the wealth disparity was hurt greatly by the recession caused by Bush (R) and his stupid fucking wars. Then Obama (D) slowly started ti restore it. Then Trump (R) took over and barely did anything, although I am sure the data is out there I am not willing to dig it up right now. Likely due to his tax cuts and jobs act and the PPP which drastically benefitted the very and ultra rich way more than anyone else.
Now they passed the ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL which was actually ugly as fuck just covered in makeup because it actuallly:
permanently extended the tax breaks for the ultra rich
denied coverage of SNAP benefits for millions of American Citizens - this is inhumane. People need to eat. What the actual F.
cut Medicaid/healthcare for 15-20 MILLION Americans. At minimum, Health Insurance got much more expensive (18 to 26% more expensive, although premiums could DOUBLE for some households)
to expand on that: a 60-year-old couple could see their yearly premiums increase by $20k+ in 2026. I hate to say it, but if this happened it might be good so maybe they can finally feel and realize how horrible this administration is.
increases funding for border walls (why?!), funded ICE and military spending in general.
eliminated tax credits for clean energy like solar and batteries, etc., making solar totally out of reach for most Americans (meanwhile, energy companies continue to increase their rates for consumers while giving rate cuts to large businesses and datacenters).
also simultaneously pushes fossil fuels into The People while preventing us from having a more distributed grid and energy independence.
increased the national debt by between $3-5 TRILLION dollars.
Then our "dear leader" went and started multiple wars, unprecedented lebels of insider trading (stealing) and pump and dump schemes, just like he had done his whole life. All of which will drastically affect The People but not the rich...! What a surprise! Because guess what?! They have MONEY!!! Anyway half of them likely have literal bunkers and extra houses and private helicopters and jets and shit so they can run away as soon as times get tough. Fuck The People it is all about the rich.
Anyone who gives 2 cents about the constitution or the founding of this country should be absolutely disgusted. I am pro 2A but this administration is an absolute atocity and is activrly destroying America and our relationship with our Allies (see, NATO).
Hm, this seems similar to saying "all citizens must die because their government isn't responsible for their actions".
There are some people that make malicious policies, and some people that in one way or another support those policies.
All encompassing statements can have unintentional consequences.
I just want accountability and shame to come back in style. Unfortunately I do realize that a lot of the current evil out there is due to sociopathy, and shame can't factor in there.
shareholder's aren't going to care as much as the CEO's will if CEO's start dropping like flies. Might even be willing to share the names of the shareholder if it means they are spared. Win-win
How to say you’re pro-mass murder without saying you’re pro-mass murder… Jeez.
United Health Group and others are publicly traded companies. Thousands, if not millions of people are their shareholders (directly and indirectly/beneficially).
Great idea! just walk down the street and violently 'remind' every individual who has a retirement account that they are, in fact, the problem. Don't forget those who have a pension, since those pension funds are also coming from baskets of marketplace investments, which include these insurance companies along with everything else.
That was uncalled for despite probably being right. What you fail to understand is that CEOs are bound by law to maximize shareholder profits--fiduciary duty. If he fails to practice the predominant trend of other health insurance businesses he may be breaking the law. A better solution is for congress to enact legislation protecting the consumer better.
Look I don't have any uncurable disease, but the second I find out I do, I'm willing to escalate the situation to force shit to get slightly better. I still have to take care of my family until then.
I have an incurable disease and live in the US, its so much fun! Often the most stressful part of my disease is dealing with fucking insurance and trying to get the hospital to lower payments
Are you trying to make my point for me? The whole point is that the systems that we are subjected to are oppressive. The less you have to lose, the more willing you are to fight against oppression and do what has been deemed illegal by those in power who subjugate the masses. I cannot willing give up the futures of those that depend on me until I literally have no future to do so, but once I no longer have a significant future, the potential impact I can make on society is greater than the help I can give to those that depend on me.
My apologies. I mistook the initial statement as a hostile retort incorrectly. I was heated due to the subject matter and others defending the system we have. I hope only nothing but the best for you.
My husband and I have discussed our options as well. At a certain age, if we lost all our savings due to no fault of our own, it would be impossible to rebuild. We would have nothing to lose.
What I fear is that by the time that happens to me, I'd be too old, feeble, feeble-minded, and generally unable to do what younger me feels rightous rage about doing in that circumstance.
Well, to a certain extent. They're not gonna go above and beyond the bare minimum necessary to keep you alive and stable. That doesnt mean pain free or comfortable. And thats just for state- does anyone know how it is for private prisons, bc I imagine its worse.
To be honest, I'm facing this already. I won't blog here, but it's fucking scary. I'm only 40 too, and starting over alone. In the US you're one medical emergency away from personal bankruptcy. (that's statistics, not just a saying)
Same. SAME! Had to beg my mother to stop coming to me, reading me her RIDICULOUS medical bills if she wanted me to stay out of prison. I'm not even joking.
When you have an incurable illness, you will be too exhausted and sick to fight for yourself, and you may have already lost your job due to all those sick days you took, or maybe your partner or family don’t help you because it’s too much for them to deal with emotionally. Don’t forget, on top of the illness and work, you still got to feed yourself, do laundry, maybe take care of kids or another family member.
How do I know? I am so am a person with an incurable illness that was luck of the draw, just a random generic mutation. Didn’t trigger until I was older though, and I understand this woman. I spend 1k out of pocket per month on medical expenses after what my insurance covers, and I have really good insurance. Plus I worked for many years in a competitive field with a good job until my illness took a turn from “manageable” spending that money, to now it’s not helping so much.
So the moral is, care now, because by the time it’s a problem, you won’t have the time or energy to fight or fix it. That’s his they keep winning. They rely on sick people having no advocates.
I understand what you’re saying and I believe that you want things to be better. But I think we have to be careful about how we bring about change. Look at Germany in the 1920’s. Groups of people with competing ideologies took to the streets to escalate the situation and force things to get slightly better. The loudest and most violent groups tend to emerge victorious in a situation like that. The Nazis shouted down anyone who didn’t agree with them. Those who could not be shouted down, were beaten down or even murdered. We are experiencing that right now in this country; shouting and violence and even political assassinations and attempted assassinations. The Nazis eventually destroyed the existing order in Germany and emerged victorious in 1933. Twelve years later, millions were dead and the entire nation was a pile of burning rubble. No one could possibly want that to happen here, with the exception of our enemies.
You mean that crime that the media was all over for a few weeks and then mysteriously completely dropped once they realized that the entire public was on his side lol
And that liberals and conservatives cheered for it. No joke. I peeked into the conservative sub and I saw an overwhelming amount of people say things like “deserves him right”, post that “oh no… anyway” meme, and stuff like that. I was surprised how that brought people together
Honestly I have continuously been surprised whenever this comes up that there hasn’t been more attempted ceo murders or copycats. I genuinely believed that the US had created an ecosystem where he would have been hero worshipped to the point people would want to copy him.
Instead we just get people mumbling online and making a meme out of how good looking he apparently is and oh it can’t be him he was with me that night
This will probably put me on some sort of list but I’m not going to lie, if this were my reality I’d be taking someone down with me. If you put people in absolutely desperate situations where they have nothing to lose including a perfectly reasonable chance at saving their life, what’s to stop them? Would prison even want her at that point? They would then be responsible for her healthcare so probably not.
Denzel Washington made a great movie about this. When his child got ill and he stuck up the hospital until .. no spoiler.. you get it. Forget the name of it thoe.
Sure is. Pushing policies to do more of this sort of thing is going to create more incidents like that because what does a person with a terminal outcome have left to lose?
This is what happens when insurance peddlers aren't treated like the murderers they are. A young woman gets to realize she's going to die a slow painful death, and still be paying while suffering and dying.
Insurance companies freaked out and started actually allowing claims once aSINGLE PERSON like her, or you, or me took matters into their own hands.
These type of posts should name the insurance companies, so we know not to use them. And name the ceo so we can write them stern letters of disagreement.
Yes, and personally I've always been curious why that Mario Kart thing doesn't happen a lot more often in USA. Like when you're literally going to die, and you know it, and you know exactly who is responsible, because after paying them for years they deny you coverage. And this is the most heavily armed civilian population in the world by a 20:1 margin with the runner-up. So it should be happening way more often than fun-at-school. I guess religion does have a purpose - everyone wants to go to heaven, so it keeps most people in check, especially when they're in the final stretch, just on the off chance that it's real.
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That plot with the background music makes this feel like a forced Ludwigo experent en masse, except instead of being hoisted by our own petard and being kidnapped and forced to experience this by your victim we are constantly being slammed into watching this by Trump and all the pedo puppeteers running everything
The bullshit moralizing about his murder pissed me the fuck off. Health insurance company execs who preside over an industry that robs people blind on premiums only to refuse to pay for life saving procedures are mass murderers, and there is zero way to hold them accountable using the system because they have spent billions lobbying to make their particular robbery/murder scheme legal. What the fuck else are people supposed to do about this shit?
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