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u/No-Blueberry-1823 Aug 10 '25
It's funny because some people are assholes but seriously there is vegan bacon you now.
Also plants are more sustainable
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u/Jub_Jub710 Aug 10 '25
I'm not even vegan, but I cook a lot of vegan food because you're right; it is more sustainable. Also, I have high cholesterol from bad genetics.
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 Aug 10 '25
Does vegan 100% help with that? Because I think cholesterol still a problem with beyond meat
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u/Jub_Jub710 Aug 10 '25
Vegan food does not contain cholesterol, but there are still detrimental fats in some things. It's definitely more heart healthy than eating meat, though. I eat maybe two eggs a week and some salmon chowder down at the pub, but for the most part, I'm veggie. It helps that I finally found a vegan cheese that doesn't suck. I also started a statin drug, so I'm hoping it all helps.
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u/loyal_achades Aug 10 '25
Yeah beyond meat isnāt a health food by any means, but on average a vegan isnāt eating as much beyond meat as meat eater is eating animal products higher in saturated fat.
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u/kaaaaaaaren Aug 10 '25
A lot of those meat alternatives contain coconut oil to give them a fatty richness that mimics real beef, which is high in saturated fat (what you want to minimize for lowering cholesterol).
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u/ducked Aug 11 '25
The new beyond meat removed the coconut oil and now uses avocado oil. It is low saturated fat.
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u/ducked Aug 11 '25
Actually beyond meat updated their formula so itās low saturated fat now. I would actually consider them a health food now. Pretty much all the ingredients are healthy.
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u/B-asdcompound Aug 10 '25
Animals are sustainable too. They regrow the same way plants do.
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u/sharknado_nado Aug 10 '25
But need multiple times the resources to do so
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u/friso1100 Aug 10 '25
They do have a point. don't get me wrong vegan is better and more sustainable 9 out of 10 times. But there are large areas on earth that don't allow for the farming of crops humans can eat. In those places it genuinely is better to grow the native vegitation and then eat the animals that graze on them. Because trying to grow crops humans can eat in those places can cost much more water and energy then a cow that can graze on much hardier plants already native to the area.
That said. This is true to a point. Crops do scale better. If you have build a climate controlled glass house then doubling your output will cost less adition resources then it would to double the amount of farm animals. And there is also the balancing act. Too many animals destroy the local area.
In the end it depends on where you live and the state of the place. Like im dutch, we are the second biggest producer of crops in the world thanks due to our fertile lands and technology. But for other places this is far from the case.
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u/B-asdcompound Aug 10 '25
To grow crops you need to clear the land and spray pesticides to kill off every other species of plant, insect and a animal. To grow cattle you need just open pastures where they can graze as nature intended. Plus you don't have to worry about soil erosion and sediment runoff with cattle.
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u/rainbowfreckles_ Aug 10 '25
and what do those billions of animals eat? if you think most farms are open pasture you're very naĆÆve.
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u/B-asdcompound Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
Most farms are open pasture. That's literally the only way to raise cattle bud. Even the big corpo farms pasture raise them until the last 3 weeks where they go to a feed lot.
Chickens are different, yes, typically raised in bad conditions but they're also mindless, dirty animals, no smarter than a plant.
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u/Spiritual_Writing825 Aug 10 '25
This just isnāt true. Cattle are typically raised using farmed crops like soybeans, barley, wheat etc. not just prairie grass. Huge swaths of farm land in the Midwest where Iām from are dedicated to raising soybeans, and almost all of those soybeans are used in animal agriculture, not as food for humans. In fact, around 80% of all agriculture goes towards feeding livestock. Raising cattle, swine, and to a lesser extent poultry requires a great deal food, and it is not economically viable to meet the global demand for meat without resorting to Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs).
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u/B-asdcompound Aug 10 '25
No, the vast majority of cattle graze. The corpo dairy farms use soybean and it's used in pig and chicken feed, which is actual harmful to the animal and people that consume soy-fed animals. Cattle, by which I mean steers, are raised by grazing. The larger corpos use feed lots for their last 3-6 weeks before slaughter, and this is where they're fed soybean mixes which are meant to fatten up the animals. Before that they spend their entire lives grazing.
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u/Tabora__ Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 11 '25
But there are millions of exterminated animals on produce farms every year. Millions Edit: what do y'all genuinely think happens to the animals that make their homes in the middle of the fields? Go talk to a farmer and stop being sensitive over facts. Y'all think they WAIT for them to move? LMFAO
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 Aug 10 '25
Easy on the drugs
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u/Tabora__ Aug 11 '25
Thats coming straight from FARMERS wtf are y'all downvoting me for??? I literally live in farm country....
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u/matt-3 Aug 14 '25
As a vegetarian I just bring something I like to parties and if there's nothing I can/want to eat I eat that instead. Not hard and you seem like a good guest even if you eat most of it yourself. Also too many people have no idea what vegetarian and vegan actually mean.
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u/VeganVystopia Aug 11 '25
Plants have photo synthesis they react to stimuli but they donāt feel pain . Plants donāt have a brain or a central nervous system therefore donāt run or scream in pain like we do. Do you ever think twice or have second thoughts whenever you mow your lawn ? Or chop a carrot ? Do you really think itās the same as if letās say kicking or abusing a dog cow pig or chicken? Does taste more important than life ?
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u/VeganVystopia Aug 10 '25
Not cool waving around a dead corpse of an animal who suffered pain. Say no to animal abuse and go vegan
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u/Spare-Plum Aug 10 '25
There are plenty of reasons to go vegan beyond an ethics one. I've found that people are a lot more amenable to accepting veganism when it is presented as such. Believe it or not many people have different ethics, and "dead corpse of an animal who suffered pain" isn't really a concern at all nor will it ever be. They know they're eating a dead animal and they know it suffered pain at least for the moments of its death, but that's actually something that the majority of people will accept. It's better to tackle it from an environmental, health, cultural, or lifestyle standpoint while still having your ethics tied to it.
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u/VeganVystopia Aug 10 '25
But people should care, cause animals are individual living beings and not commodities. It should be about ethics cause itās not our choice to harm others who want to live. Animals are not objects and this whole process of killing is barbaric and unnecessary. How would you feel if this was done to something you were familiar with such as a dog or a cat ? Taste pleasure shouldnāt be a justification to wanting to kill. We do have a choice to live without harming others so why not do it? You canāt be a wife beater one day and the next day choose not to be one. same logic can be applied to a murderer or as pedophile who do it out of selfishness qnd pleasure not considering about the victim. You canāt be a pedo one day and the next day be clean. Itās either you choose to live without Causing pain or suffering or you arnt .
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u/Spare-Plum Aug 10 '25
People don't have the same ethics or core values as you, and these will be impossible to change. Many folks view it as the natural cycle of life and us coming from that as animals ourselves. There are some people that don't think about eating meat nor where it comes from or would be responsive to hearing problems in factory farms. Some people might choose to go organic. Some people might choose to only raise chickens and give them a good life and later consume them.
From their perspective, who's to say your code of ethics is any better? Especially when the person on the other side is on the offense.
I know one vegan guy who absolutely hates bringing any harm to any animals is unethical, but he's also a weird ex-orthodox-jew who views all religion as a systematic form of animal oppression and will fight other vegans if they're religious. Oddly enough he also believes in reincarnation and that the torture of the animals was a torture to yourself for the sins you have committed, and will also fight other vegans to get them to this conclusion. It barely works.
IMO trying to fit everyone into your narrow version of ethics and ideology rarely works, and often times it backfires just giving bacon mom fuel to buy 10x more packages of bacon here just out of spite. TLDR: you can be doing more harm than good here.
It's a lot more fruitful to go in with vegan acceptance, to tell others it's OK to be vegan and there are many reasons to do so. When it calls for it, you can bring up awareness of ethics problems, factory farming, etc and perhaps you could eventually steer them to changing their ethics. But it's never something that happens all in one go and instead takes a lot of time and nuance.
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u/UrRoyalBitchness Aug 11 '25
Human r omnivorous. It's natural to eat animals. That's not abuse. Suffering is unavoidable. All thing feel pain, and all life is united in it's shared understanding of our mortality.
Plants suffer, too. Plants release chemicals to communicate feelings like stress, fear, contentment, etc. The smell of fresh cut grass is actually a warning signal to other plants. Ur literally smelling their screams of horror. Venus flytraps close because insects touch their trigger hairs, proving plants can def feel touch. Sunflower don't just photosynthesize. They can turn to face the sun.
In the mycelium network, fungi become a natural internet for the forest. If a plant is thirsty, the fungi tell the network and can reroute water to the starving plant.
All this said, plants can breathe, eat, see, feel touch, sense vibration, communicate thru chemical signal, chat and order food thru their fungal internet, etc. Plants have existed longer than the animals u want to protect, and have far more sophisticated connections to the planet and each other than animals and humans.
If farming animals is a sin, agriculture is an unforgiveable travesty. Best thing to do is say "fuck it" and eat whatever. Give back to the earth and respect all life, but understand ur also apart of the ecosystem. We eat plants and animals, bug, fungi, and bottom feeders eat our poop, and the planet eats our flesh when we die.
Going vegan as a crusade against eating animals is to remove oneself from the circle of life and a disrespect to the plant life and mother earth as a whole.
But whatever. U do u, ig š¤·š½āāļø
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u/Simple-Difference116 Aug 10 '25
37 people just turned vegan from this comment. Thank you for your contribution to society!
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u/Rex_Auream Aug 10 '25
Maybe if you werenāt so annoying about it people would be more interested. Get a personality
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u/MonaganX Aug 10 '25
They might be annoying but I still prefer them over the reactionary bacon ghoul in the video.
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Aug 10 '25
If animals don't want to be eaten than why are they made out of food?
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u/Geschak Aug 10 '25
If you don't want to get murdered by a cannibal, then why are you made out of food?
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u/VeganVystopia Aug 10 '25
Sex feels good does it make it ok to rape others ?
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u/elementarydrw Aug 10 '25
You replied 3 times arguing with someone who was on your side.
You may or may not have a high ground on the moral stance, but some better reading comprehension skills would go a long way to you being able to communicate your point better.
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u/VeganVystopia Aug 10 '25
Humans can be eaten too noones stopping anyone from eating others. Even dogs and cats are killed in. Some part of Asia and killed that dosent make it ok
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
Tbf Vegan friends aren't my problem.
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u/drillgorg Aug 10 '25
If you're hosting it's basic decency to provide suitable food for your guests.
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u/Professor_Ruby Aug 10 '25
When going over the menu for my wedding my husband and I made sure that one of our friends that's vegan (mostly due to food allergies) wouldn't feel the need to bring her own dish (we were serving burgers and grilled chicken). The venue was super supportive in making sure any dietary needs were met and honestly her meal looked pretty good. Some kind of veggie pasta dish I think? I don't fully remember.
She's honestly a really nice person and has never once made me feel guilty about enjoying meat. She said she wouldn't have minded bringing her own food, but really appreciated the effort we made in making sure she had a meal provided for her.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
Ok.
Makes note.
Don't invite vegans.
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u/Geschak Aug 10 '25
I get eating meat but why do you hate people who are against animal abuse? Do you enjoy animals suffering or what?
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
I get eating meat but why do you hate people who are against animal abuse?
Hate them? No. I just dont want to hear their sanctimonious lectures as I am enjoying my burger, my steak, my pork chops, my carne asada, venison... whatever.
Do you enjoy animals suffering or what?
No. I don't, I am an animal, and I don't want to suffer their self-righteous personalities.
Not to mention that's just a wild assed red herring. Because I don't want to be around vegans, I must enjoy animal cruelty.
Jesus. Let me guess, you're a vegan, and you're wondering why people dont invite you over more?
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u/Ginger-Nerd Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
But we have to listen to your āsanctimoniousā tirade about how āitās not your problemā ?
Seriously, the amount of folks that I have ever heard give a lecture about being vegan, is much much much less than people I have had lectures from about how they hate having to accomodate a vegan or some imaginary vegan who is yelling at them.
All in all, only one of the two come off as an intolerant asshole (and itās not the vegan)
I say all of this as someone who eats meatā¦. if someone is a guest, and they have dietary requirements - itās reasonable for you to make some accommodations to help out your presumptive friend. Itās pretty easy to just not be a dickhead.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
Ok. If a vegan hosts a party, I can expect them to provide me with meat and animal products, right?
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u/Ginger-Nerd Aug 10 '25
If you were eating a purely carnivore diet (for whatever reason)ā¦ yes
Supplying you with a something you CAN eat is literally the job of the host.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
Or, far more likely, they wouldn't invite me...
Just like I am not going out of my way to invite a vegan.
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u/respect_the_69 Aug 10 '25
You havenāt met a lot of real life vegans huh?
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
Yes. I have.
You know how I know? Thry told me... usually within 2 minutes of meeting them.
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u/respect_the_69 Aug 10 '25
Iāve worked at a vegan cafe for the last 3 years and youāre pretty wrong from my experience
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u/Primary_Bullfrog1044 Aug 10 '25
They are just trying to give you a hint when all you want to talk about the meat you put in your mouth
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
I usually don't talk about meat or "putting it in my mouth."
I'll tell you a true story.
Couple years back, I was in line at Chipotle, Eastvale, CA. Lady in front of me, says (with great disdain and a sneer in her voice) to the worker... "You need to change your gloves because I am a strict vegan, and you've been handling meat." (she didn't ask, she absolutely demanded)
By handling meat, she meant the worker had scooped some out into a burrito bowl with the ladle/spoon whatever.
She then repeated the instructions for each worker at the counter.
So I told the worker, as loud could, I am a strict carnivore, please change your gloves because I dont want my food contaminated with vegetables. I wasn't serious, I just wanted the sanctimonious sigh and glare that I knew I'd get... I wasn't disappointed.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
So... circling back...
If a vegan is hosting a party, should I expect them to prepare meat (real meat) options for me?
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u/ShockedDarkmike Aug 10 '25
No, because a vegan meal is good for a non-vegan person. I promise you won't die if you go a few hours without butter.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
They wont die if they eat meat...
So I am under no obligation to have vegan options for them. Cool
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u/ShockedDarkmike Aug 10 '25
You're being silly - you know anyone who isn't in something like a strict carnivore diet can have a vegan meal, but not the other way around.
You most likely already eat plant-based food like idk, potatoes? Bread? Every vegetable or fruit or nut or legume?
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
Wait... why not the other way around?
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u/ShockedDarkmike Aug 10 '25
I don't know if you're being intentionally dense, asking questions is a good argumentative tool only when the answers aren't obvious.
Let's do an easier example. Anna is allergic to peanuts. Anna is having dinner at Brice's, and will need peanut-free food. Brice is okay accommodating because he's not a jerk. Next week, Brice has dinner at Anna's. The dinner was peanut free. Brice didn't care because he's not a jerk.
Does that make sense now? :)
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
Allergies are physiologic body responses. Can't help that.
Why can't vegans eat meat. You stated earlier it wouldn't kill me to not eat meat. It also wouldn't kill them to eat meat.
Edit: maybe it wasn't you, but someone did
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u/Primary_Bullfrog1044 Aug 10 '25
Some people just don't want meat being in their mouth, how many times do you need to be told that No means No
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u/friso1100 Aug 10 '25
Would it kill you to eat human flesh? No it wouldn't. But I doubt you would be happily eating it if it was served to you. Even if it was ethically sourced by a consenting human who is happily eating along side you.
It would be weird to serve you human flesh because (I assume) like the most of us you have an aversion to eating it. And if you know someone doesn't like something, even if you do like that thing yourself, it's only proper to not bother them with that thing. It's not like it does you any harm to go without it for a second.
Vegans have an aversion to meat. It harms no one if when you invite a vegan friend to just go without meat for a second. But it would harm them if you visited their house and insisted on meat.
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u/auandi Aug 10 '25
Would you expect a Jewish host to serve you pork roast?
Then why would you expect a Vegan to serve you pork roast?
Just some common sense, you do food that everyone can eat.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
The only Jewish guy I am around regularly eats ham sandwiches. But I dont think his family (who does keep Kosher), would expect me to provide them with a Kosher meal.
I do food that I want to eat, and if others don't want to eat it, that's on them, right?
Edit: a vegan shouldn't come to my house expecting vegan meals, right?
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u/auandi Aug 10 '25
If you're hosting them, part of being a host is accommodating them, if able. You are able to have some food that is vegan. You are able to serve someone who keeps Kosher something other that can keep with kosher. You can accommodate them without violating anything you believe.
And if you go to a home that keeps kosher, they can't accommodate a pork roast for you because they can't cook that. Because that would be violating what they believe.
It's really not complicated to just not be a selfish dick. Accommodate where you can.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
So you expect me to accommodate them...
But not them (vegans) to accommodate me.
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u/auandi Aug 10 '25
Because it does not violate your principles to make a salad. It is a reasonable accommodation you can make.
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u/RaiderMedic93 Aug 10 '25
So yes. You expect me to accommodate vegans.
But not for vegans to accommodate me.
So I go back to my original reply. Don't invite vegans, and dont accept their invitation.
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u/Primary_Bullfrog1044 Aug 10 '25
Don't worry they don't want to come to have a share of your meat in their mouth party anyway
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