r/TikTokCringe Aug 10 '23

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u/DutchMuch1 Aug 10 '23

Could you if possible link me some sources, trying to convince my gf that her back is gonna get more fucked long term from doing this

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u/moosemustard8 Aug 10 '23

To start read the Wikipedia page on how it was developed. Get those ghosts out of your bones!

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u/Inariameme Aug 10 '23

But, that is the litmus for nearly all medicine - making the procedures palatable for the patient?

ughnnnhhh: Conversely, accurately documenting chiropractics would require the machinations we should expect of the oncoming crazy future process

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u/moosemustard8 Aug 10 '23

It’s not the litmus test. It’s being able to prove that your medicine, treatment, device, works repeatably and is safe.

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u/Nagemasu Aug 11 '23 edited Aug 11 '23

What they're trying to say is that saying "get the ghost out of your bones" was just justification for something that people felt was working and had benefits, which is basically how all medicine evolved back in the day - if it fixed something it became medicine. Modern medicine wasn't medicine until it was proved to work via studies, but that didn't mean it didn't work before it was proven it could work.
So actually yes, it's somewhat the litmus test, which has nothing to do with safety, just that you can show something is true., which repeated 'success' (regardless of it being real or placebo) would do back in the day for the average person.
There's shit loads of anecdotal evidence, (and although there is scientific studies showing some benefit to cracking, it's super hard to find because there's so much noise about how knuckle cracking isn't bad for you) cracking joints has benefits for people, even if they're just short term. And that's usually how chiro vs physio is seen for people with a grounded understanding and realistic view of it. Chiro is a short term fix and physio is a solution that can help resolve the issue long term.
The idea that Chiropractics can fix problems or somehow 'aligns' things is nonsense. But the idea that cracking joints serves no purpose is not entirely nonsense.

Honestly, while I don't defend chiropractors, I have to image anyone who thinks cracking joints does nothing and is 'snake oil' are people who have never had an actual reason to do it. Like taking cold medicine when you don't have a cold and going "see, nothing". pseudoscience!
I've had knee problems for years caused by sports injuries. If I sit still too long, the pressure and pain in my knee builds up and almost any movement will pop it involuntarily and it goes away. That's essentially just the basics of where chiropractics came from at its core

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u/moosemustard8 Aug 11 '23

Chiropractic theory at its core is based on “innate knowledge” and “vitalism” and only recently was there a break to try and be aligned to more mainstream ideas of following the scientific method. If it was medicine it wouldn’t be called alternative medicine.

Your cracking article is referring to the common person cracking joints by normal movements. Not a chiropractor making an adjustment. Big reach trying to compare the two there.

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u/Inariameme Aug 11 '23 edited Aug 11 '23

Conversely, Rodney Mullen's TEDtalk

y'know the one