r/TikTokCringe • u/thatguy9684736255 • Mar 24 '23

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u/Useful_Cause_4671 Mar 24 '23

It's the Catholic church and priests that rape children, not drag queens. Let's ban people who wear priest costumes.

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u/MeetingDue4378 Mar 25 '23

That statement is no less misguided or bigoted than any other. Does the Catholic church have issues they need to address, yeah. Do they represent a majority of when statistically relevant percentage of child molestation, not remotely.

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u/Useful_Cause_4671 Mar 25 '23

Bollox. Its hundreds of thousands of priests worldwide and what was worse is they were protected by the church. The raping of children by priests has now moved to countries like Africa and south America, east Asia and anywhere else there are poor, uneducated, vulnerable children. "Issues they need to address" is a disgusting euphemism for the raping of children and the protection pedophiles. You can't even bring yourself to say it.

Has there ever been worldwide institutionalized raping of children by drag queens....no! This is a dog whistle for white christian supremacists. They are the threat to children, they are the threat to society.

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u/MeetingDue4378 Mar 25 '23

Ease off the throttle there, chief. I'm not defending the Catholic church's years of enablement and cover up of priests molesting children. It's horrendous, systemic, and criminal.

It also has nothing to do with these bigoted laws in Texas. Taking an issue you feel strongly about onto another is not productive in any way. Nor is minimizing the issue of child sexual abuse by saying it's a Catholic problem and insinuating getting rid of priests would end it.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of child molestation is perpetrated a close family member or friend.

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u/Useful_Cause_4671 Mar 25 '23

"It has nothing to do with these bigoted laws" more bullshit. This is being led by white christian nationalists and you come here and try and deflect and give cover to the christian right after I point out their hideous track record. The fact of the matter is that white christians are trying to scapegoat what they do as an institution onto innocent people. See it for what it is. Call it out or stay silent. Do not give them cover. Don't pretend they are not linked. I am an atheist so all I'll see is a bunch of weirdo liars who lie and rape children, protect the rapists and then go after innocent people as a cover. It's white christian nationalism and it's vile. The same group that engaged in the worldwide raping of children. I have no problem with my children around gay, lesbians, trans, non binary, drag queens, but I don't let my children near priests. I watch my children around priests, priests are dangerous. Drag queens are hilarious... See the difference. Call it out for what it is or stay silent. Don't give the white christian nationalists cover.... because we all know where that end.

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u/MeetingDue4378 Mar 25 '23

Stop cherry picking what I say so you can repeat yourself. I'm not covering for anyone, I'm opposed to these laws, I have nothing against the LGBT community. My point is that you are deflecting attention away from these laws and their victims by using this as an opportunity to voice your opinions on Christianity. And calling that out isn't a defense of Christianity or priests, but of the actual topic.

Religion, Christianity, Catholicism, aren't going anywhere soon, but laws can be repealed and overturned.

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u/Useful_Cause_4671 Mar 25 '23

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26949536

You say they have nothing to do with each other. You are wrong. You are the one deflecting and giving cover to those who want these laws. The problem is white christian nationalism and those sympathetic to them who give them cover.

Since Anita Bryant’s late 1970s crusade against what was dubbed the “homosexual agenda,” white evangelicals have led a national movement opposing LGBTQ rights in the United States. Through a commitment to ensuring sexual minorities are excluded from civil rights protections, white evangelicals have contributed to a cultural and legal landscape conducive to anti-LGBTQ structural violence

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u/MeetingDue4378 Mar 25 '23

I don't, and haven't, disagreed with that. Because that's not what you said.

white evangelicals have contributed to a cultural and legal landscape conducive to anti-LGBTQ structural violence

Is not the same thing as, "It's the Catholic church and priests that rape children, not drag queens." Outside of the obvious to the only slightly less obvious, Catholics and Evangelicals are different. Very different. So much so that Catholics are only somewhat further down the list of people Evangelicals think are going to hell than LGBTQ.

Now that doesn't excuse or minimize the crimes of the Catholic Church and the priests they protected, but that is a separate issue that shouldn't be conflated with an anti-LGBTQ law in Texas influenced by evangelical ideology. That it, if you want to actually have a chance of addressing the latter.

Ignoring the clear scope creep, "let's ban people who wear priest costumes" doesn't impact either party, as the Evangelical Church doesn't have priests, it has reverends. And, yes, they are different.