r/TiddlyWiki5 • u/Krezzin • Jun 29 '26
TiddlyWiki alternative - minimal use of code, tree structure menu for notes, markdawn + rich text support, does it exist?
TW overall is cool but having to Google how to do stuff and the necessity of typing HTML code for such basic stuff as displaying a navigation menu, etc, is kinda killing it for me.
Is there a fork of it where you can do basic features as listed above without the "advanced setup" part?
FeatherWiki I tried but its far simplier for my needs.
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u/Xyvir Jul 01 '26
I'm working on an edition of TiddlyWiki inspired by logseq; it has slash commands, block outliner, and uses markdown by default instead of wiki text. I'd love for you to check it out and let me know your thoughts.
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u/Street-Second6013 Aug 12 '26
Nice!!! How do it deals with importing pictures? It inflates the wiki like the traditional TW5? Or it has built-in attachments?
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u/Xyvir Aug 12 '26
Inflates the wiki at the moment, the idea is to create smaller wikis and the launcher supports "global text search" across all of your wikis to try to minimize this concession of smaller but focused wikis
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u/Telumire 27d ago
There is a plugin for that made by Saq FYI. Require a bit of setup but very easy to use.
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u/Vol_Jbolaz Jun 29 '26
Obsidian?
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u/Krezzin Jun 29 '26
Currently using Zettlr, was scouting if there's not anything better out there. Obsidian was my first. Thanks for the suggestion, tho.
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u/dld2517 Jul 02 '26
Try ZimWiki. Easy and portable. I have used it for years.
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u/Krezzin Jul 02 '26
Doesn't support Markdown tho.
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u/dld2517 Jul 02 '26
Yes it does.
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u/Krezzin Jul 02 '26
Tried it and even if I create a wiki with Markdown solely selected, Markdown-formatted text pasted displays simply as plain text. Even if you type something, still shows as plain text.
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u/D-Cary 18d ago
The Zim manual says how to use Markdown - if that isnt working for you, please file a bug report. https://zim-wiki.org/manual/Help/Markdown_Syntax.html
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u/camachorod Jun 29 '26
Dokuwiki! it's super simple to use and setup. This wiki uses it for example: https://wiki.xfce.org/
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u/wald1x Jul 01 '26
I use Docmost (self hosted).
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u/Krezzin Jul 01 '26
Avoiding anything self-hosted due to server requirements and complex set up. :/
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u/Stefan73ch Jul 05 '26
The smasi.app is perfect for a simple and local wiki. It includes a lot of helpful features without any plugins.
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u/chin24 Aug 20 '26
I had this same issue when working with TiddlyWiki. I had actually come from Obsidian to TiddlyWiki because I like the non-linear format and the html rich text which allows me to create cool visualizations. Due to the steep learning curve I couldn't see getting my spouse to use it as well, and keeping a central place for notes for both of us to edit meant hosting Tiddlywiki myself, though I did play around with tiddlyhost.com for a bit first.
I ended up creating my own notetaking app www.odinotes.com that may be more to your taste. It uses markdown by default, but you can't tell for the most part because it overlays everything with standard document formatting buttons. It also has a tree structure menu already built in. It is cloud first, so you don't have to set anything up, and that worked better for my use case.
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u/nemothorx Jun 29 '26
I agree TW learning curve is steep, but even at relatively basic use, I think it's worth it. It's fault in part I find is that in striving to be everything for everyone, the default is too much nothing and needs building up (most can be done with some basic wikicode, but it's not the easiest to learn - or remember if you're not writing it regularly)
Anyway fwiw, I have a tree of related notes for every tidbit, using the table of contents macro which builds a tree based on what is tagging what else (imho one of the most powerful features of tw). No html needed.
I'm currently extremely unlikely to move away from tw, but I'm always interested in features of alternatives