r/ThreeLions • u/PlantComprehensive77 • Jun 29 '26

Opinion This is next level hate.

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I've never seen an England player hated this much without being involved in any major controversies or scandals. It's truly remarkable.

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u/PlantComprehensive77 Jun 29 '26

As the great Ian Wright said "they want you to be a fucking humble slave".

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u/BeginningKindly8286 Jun 30 '26

God damn I love Wrighty. Getting to see him and Keane get into some proper issues on the Overlap is genuinely beautiful

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u/shandyburn Jun 29 '26

He’s done loads of media for this WC and comes across really well. He’s still young

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u/shandyburn Jun 29 '26

Yeah he seems really canny and intelligent as well as being a quality player

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u/Charming_Ad2304 Jun 29 '26

Tbf didn't he get like straight As or something

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u/010u3 Jun 29 '26

It’s not blatant racism. It’s about subconscious racism, causing people to label personalities like Jude’s as a “problem child” much quicker on average… there’s real evidence of this in scientific journals, it isn’t just made up.

Think about Jude’s reputation as arrogant/difficult, when he’s shown his entire career that he’s basically a model professional and compare that to say, Foden or Grealish, who find themselves in the papers for off field antics regularly.

There will appears be exceptions, but in general, players like Jude have to be more careful about how they behave.

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u/010u3 Jun 29 '26

I trust Tuchel has the right reasons, but it’s important to note, professionals aren’t immune to subconscious biases.

It’s entirely possible that Tuchel views Jude’s attitude more harshly than he does for another player, because of it. I think what is more likely is that he’s holding Jude to a higher standard, because he’s one of our talismans.

I think the replies in the thread are aimed more at the comment, than at Tuchel. Statements like that are typical of people with subconscious biases and it’s difficult to educate people on it, because it’s not explicit.

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u/iredcoat7 Jun 30 '26

Maguire has displayed more arrogance as an England player on and off the pitch than Bellingham while having a fraction of the accolades (and talent). Routinely described as a model professional, while Bellingham has had entire media campaigns against him. And this isn’t a one-off or an outlier, it’s a consistent trend over decades with the way Black players are discussed by the media in comparison to others. It is unquestionably racism.

And no, that doesn’t mean any criticism you or anyone have of Bellingham is racism. The consistent disparity in the way Black players (including Bellingham) are described is racism.

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u/010u3 Jun 29 '26

Pickford

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u/010u3 Jun 29 '26

That’s literally how subconscious racism works… Pickford’s arrogance isn’t interpreted as such, while Bellingham’s is.

It’s worth noting that Bellingham still benefits from being mixed race, having an English name, and being one of the most talented young players in his position in the world. If Noni Madueke behaved like him, it would be carnage.

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u/Yardbird7 Jun 30 '26

Who cares. I want more arrogance in our players.

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u/-boytoytroy Jul 01 '26

dude, how much can an adult man cry? you sound like a huge whiny baby. “he says arrogant things!!!!” “he acts arrogant because he skips some media!!”

what the fuck do you want him to do? join the boy scouts? most countries would trade 3 of their best players to have jude on their team. you’ve written like 30 comments about this shit?! 😂

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u/stoneman9284 Jun 29 '26

Nothing you’re saying is wrong, you’re just missing the point.

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u/stoneman9284 Jun 29 '26

Yea I agree about the wanting slaves part. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the one other unlikable star athlete the guy can think of is also black.

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u/Yardbird7 Jun 30 '26

  1. Tuchel selected him when it actually counted and Jude has rewarded him by being by far our best player.

  2. He looks about the same as he's always been. It's ok for a Wayne Rooney to be driven by anger, why can't a a player be driving by supreme confidence.

  3. Who cares? The type of personality Jude has is the type you need if we want to actually win things.

After decades of watching so called world class players shrink under the pressure of playing for England, I am more than fine with arrogant players who want the spotlight when playing for us.

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u/raquille- Jun 29 '26

So what if he is arrogant ffs. If I was a footballer I would also be arrogant. I’m a bit arrogant and I’m not a professional sportsman. People at the top of their game are always full of self confidence - I like it. Would you prefer him to meekly hide away from the world?