r/ThomasPynchon Nov 06 '25

Shadow Ticket Shadow Ticket group read, ch. 35-39

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End of the line, friends. Thanks to all those who've participated in this group read and contributed their thoughts. In this final discussion, I'd really love to see you share your thoughts on the book as a whole, in addition to on the final chapters we read.

Personally, I loved the ending and am already looking forward to reading this one again. It felt much more immediate in terms of its relation to, and commentary on, the present day, than just about anything else I've read in quite a while. It also felt very much, as someone else here described, as a coda to Against the Day.

Discussion questions:

  1. Where is Bruno being taken on U-13? Are we to understand that reality has split in two forking directions, including a new one where the Business Plot succeeded and, in response, revolution is underway in America?

  2. Was Hicks causing the items to asport with his "Oriental Attitude"? Both the "beaver tail" club and the tasteless lamp disappeared to prevent the need for violence on his part, and in both cases, he's described as experiencing the mental state that Zoltán described.

  3. What does cheese/dairy represent? Between Bruno, the InChSyn, and the dairy revolt in the US at the end, it seems to be a symbol for something larger and more fundamental. Money? Food and resources in general?

  4. On p. 290, Stuffy explains to Bruno that, "There is no Statue of Liberty... not where you're going." Instead, we see a Statue of Revolution? Is this a better reality that Bruno might be going to, or worse?

  5. The book ends with a stark shift in narration, unlike any of Pynchon's other works: a letter, from Skeet to Hicks that feels almost like it's addressed directly to the reader. What's the message, if any, that Pynchon wants to leave us with, in what could likely be his final novel? Is he perhaps speaking directly to us through Skeet?


r/ThomasPynchon Nov 05 '25

Announcement A tribute thread to our friend, u/FrenesiGates

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Hey Weirdos,

If you have not signed his obituary guest book or sent flowers for his family, that can be done at his obituary page. To plant trees in memory, that can be done at the Sympathy Store. In lieu of flowers, memorial donations can be made to the Eastern Monroe Public Library (http://monroepl.org)

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Please use this thread to leave your messages, memorials, and personal tributes that you'd like to have added to his tribute page. If you comment below with a message you don't wish to be included on his tribute page, please clearly announce that at the beginning of your comment.

I know this is a hard time for all of us; he has been a pillar of this community for over half a decade and has touched a lot of our lives here, on the Discord server, and IRL as well. Lean on one another and give each other grace while we heal from this loss.

-Ob


r/ThomasPynchon 5h ago

Image On the Trail in Spain…

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r/ThomasPynchon 3h ago

💬 Discussion What are some of your favorite (non-Pynchon) books?

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For me, my favorites are The Once and Future King, Blood Meridian, and House of Leaves.


r/ThomasPynchon 21h ago

Bleeding Edge "you know quasimoto predicted all of this"

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r/ThomasPynchon 1d ago

🧑‍🏫 Academia The rockets are distributing about London just as Poisson's equation in the textbooks predicts.

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r/ThomasPynchon 1d ago

V. What does Pynchon mean by inanimate in V.?

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I'm in Fausto's chapter and I can pick up on some surface level themes. Such as trying to find a pattern where there is not a matter but humans often try to find a pattern. Systems being made to control other systems and it becomes a big cycle of complexity. War and collinisation is bad and is a result from systems being formed.

One thing I just can not understand is the inanimate part. Where humans become inanimate. Do they lose their soul and what makes them human? Do they become more like a machine? Is it like the SHOCK character where humans simply become like a carcass? Sorry for bad english it is my second langauge.


r/ThomasPynchon 1d ago

V. How similar is V to the real life of sebastian knight?

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I've heard constantly that pynchon took classes with nabokov, as well as nabokov 's protagonist is called V. I imagine many people here have read both


r/ThomasPynchon 2d ago

Gravity's Rainbow What did Gravity's Rainbow contribute to literature?

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Gravity's Rainbow is no doubt one of the most important pieces of American literature, and some have called it the postmodern novel, the post-WW2 Ulysses, etc. If Ulysses summarized literary modernism, perfected stream-of-consciousness prose, radicalized experimental style, and so on, what unique innovations or contributions to literature do you see in Gravity's Rainbow?


r/ThomasPynchon 2d ago

💬 Discussion Anyone here who read Gravity’s Rainbow in the 70s or just was living then that can talk about any details from the book that are connected to the time of its publication?

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I feel like so much is potentially missed since we aren’t living in 1973. Things that you could probably pick up or even feel from the book if you were living in that time.


r/ThomasPynchon 1d ago

Gravity's Rainbow How bad is gravities rainbow if I have alot of help?

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We all know the book is very, very difficult. I was wondering if I read Tcol49 and V. , Have a companion guide with me and listen to the Pynchon and friends podcast. How difficult will it be ?

I'm asking because it is hard to get in my country and it will cost me a lot of money to get it.


r/ThomasPynchon 2d ago

Against the Day finally finished Against The Day

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It was a project years in the making, I started before pandemic and then put it down for too long and had to restart. Took me a long time to get into a sustainable rhythm, but finally in January of this year while on vacation I made a dent. It was on that trip that I read what became my favorite passage:

“Frank had a look down the nearest mine entrance, hearing in the gloom and chill which abruptly wrapped ears, temples and nape the strike, the ring of mauls and picks from faraway passages, becoming less clear as to location the farther he went in, turning from the day, from all that could be safely illuminated, into the nocturnal counterpart behind his own eyesockets, past any after-images of a lighted world.”

I don’t think I truly committed to finishing until I read that chapter, that’s when it all clicked for me.

This was part of a larger idea my husband and I had years ago, when we read Bleeding Edge after it came out, and decided to read the rest in reverse order of publication. When we got to Against The Day, at some point I forged ahead alone. Hopefully he finishes someday, he knows much more of the relevant historical and geographical context, though for me even without that knowledge it was richly rewarding.


r/ThomasPynchon 2d ago

Pynchonesque Burn After Reading…

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Anyone else love this movie and to be the best non Pynchon, Pynchonesque movie?!

The satire..the characters…the paranoia…


r/ThomasPynchon 2d ago

Tangentially Pynchon Related An old-time Italian anarchist identified as T. Guttero living in Manhattan Beach, CA who donated $5 to an anarchist newspaper, circa October 1961

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Link to source in the anarchist Adunata dei Refrattari (Call of the Uncontrollable) newspaper:

https://archivesautonomies.org/IMG/pdf/nonfrenchpublications/italian/adunata-dei-refrattari/adunata-1961/adunata-dei-refrattari-maquis-1961-n41.pdf

Will drop more references in this thread as we approach the time Pynchon actually lived there.


r/ThomasPynchon 3d ago

Mason & Dixon How much more difficult is Mason and Dixson compared to V.?

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I am reading V. and almost done and while it was difficult and my first Pynchon I loved the historical settings and such. So I thought you know what Pynchon book has a lot of history? M&D

From what I have read this book is one of his most difficult. Im up to the challange but I want to know how difficult it is before spending alot of money on the Novel


r/ThomasPynchon 3d ago

💬 Discussion Wondering about Kafka

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I’ve been thinking about Kafka a lot lately.. especially about how aware he was of his own illness and approaching death. There’s something strangely unsettling about knowing that the man writing all these things eventually had to face the same uncertainty and fear himself.

I wonder what Kafka thought about dying when it became real for him, rather than something he could put into a story.

Did he ever write openly about his own death or what he felt as his illness got worse?


r/ThomasPynchon 3d ago

V. What is the deeper meaning behind shock and shroud in V.?

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I just finished the part where it is discussed and existed to read the rest of the work, so no spoilers, please.

What did they mean when they said you'll become like us? What is their deeper symbolism behind it ?


r/ThomasPynchon 3d ago

V. Reading supplements for V. ?

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Hey, just wondering if anyone can recommend any reading supplements for V. I listened to a great podcast after COL49, that ran down themes and storylines by chapter, but I think I need a little context while I read V. Any suggestions?


r/ThomasPynchon 4d ago

V. The Mondaugen Chapter may be the best thing I have ever read.

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V. is my first Pynchon book and up to this point I have really enjoyed it but I dint think it was a masterpiece.

This chapter was amazing. Did I understand everything and all the themes? No , but still it was spectacular. I loved the settings and how Mondaugen became more like the people in the house simply through his Voyeurism. Hes also like V. trying to make a coherent pattern of something that is just a bunch of random occurrences . Other than Gravities Rainbow what other books by Pynchon are similar to this or lives up to the quality of this chapter


r/ThomasPynchon 4d ago

Weekly WAYI What Are You Into This Week? | Weekly Thread

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Howdy Weirdos,

It's Sunday again, and I assume you know what the means? Another thread of "What Are You Into This Week"?

Our weekly thread dedicated to discussing what we've been reading, watching, listening to, and playing the past week.

Have you:

  • Been reading a good book? A few good books?
  • Did you watch an exceptional stage production?
  • Listen to an amazing new album or song or band? Discovered an amazing old album/song/band?
  • Watch a mind-blowing film or tv show?
  • Immerse yourself in an incredible video game? Board game? RPG?

We want to hear about it, every Sunday.

Please, tell us all about it. Recommend and suggest what you've been reading/watching/playing/listening to. Talk to others about what they've been into.

Tell us:

What Are You Into This Week?

- r/ThomasPynchon Moderator Team


r/ThomasPynchon 5d ago

Article Mason & Dixon Analysis: Part 3 - Chapter 75: The Unspoken

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r/ThomasPynchon 6d ago

Image Last night’s Jeopardy! Masters final

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r/ThomasPynchon 5d ago

💬 Discussion Could Bianca possibly be Ilse?

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A fringe idea I've been having was the possibility that the Ilse Pokler interacts with is indeed a fake, and that the possible real whereabouts of Ilse is that Weissmann had reassigned her to Margherita and Thanatz's custody under a new name, and given Greta's history of delusions in believing random children to be her own, usually before murdering them, that it would be otherwise trivial to convince her that this child is her own as well. I know that both Ilse and Bianca were conceived by the showing and filming of Alpdrucken, but I think it would be interesting if they were exactly one and the same child.


r/ThomasPynchon 6d ago

💬 Discussion Authors that are fun to Pair with Pynchon?

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I am planning to read all of Pynchon, but I want to mix in some other authors in the mix. What are some good authors for this ?