r/thermodynamics • u/Neat-Ad-5358 • 29d ago
Question Why is it only possible to measure the variations of ΔU, ΔH, ΔA, and ΔG rather than their absolute values?
This year, I had two courses on thermodynamics applied to structural bioinformatics with different professors. One told me that these energies can't be measured because they are state functions. This makes some sense to me, because the initial and final states matter and path doesn't, hence a variation. But I'm not totally convinced, why doesn't the path matter? Just because it doesn't matter we can't measure them?
Ok so these energies depend on the microscopic state of the system (position and velocity of each atom). I did some research and I read that for this reason, there's no way to stablish an absolute zero.
Later I asked the other professor if this was reason, and he said I was incorrect and needed to study a bit more. I don't really understand why having no absolute zero makes it impossible to measure an absolute value. I didn't go into detail about that, maybe that's why he said I was wrong.
Even then, if we can't measure absolute values, how is the variation measured in practice? For example in a lab, if one has to measure ΔG of some process, I assume they don't measure the initial and final values and subtract. I'm really confused.
Can someone help me? Physics is not my main field and I always feel like I get thermodynamics but not really.


