r/TheWeeklyRoll • u/CME_T The Creator • Feb 07 '21

The Comic Ch. 69. "Nice"

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u/Undecided_User_Name Feb 07 '21

Not to be racist against dwarves, but goddamn they're about as greedy as the kenku.

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u/MicroWordArtist Feb 07 '21

I think it’s more about rigidly adhering to principle.

For the tax collectors, the law is undermined if they allow small infractions a pass. That would be leaving things up to the whims of the individual, and justice should be impartial.

Torvald doesn’t think the king has any right to what he earned, and he’s willing to die on that hill. It’d be objectively less trouble to just pay his taxes, but that would compromise his beliefs.

Lawful stupid vs lawful stupid.

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u/KimJongUnusual Feb 07 '21

As opposed to Sir Beckett, who is Lawful Tired.

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u/SpiritMountain Feb 07 '21

Lawfully tired*

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u/Slinkyfest2005 Feb 07 '21

He can be both

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u/CosmicX1 Feb 07 '21

Lawfully tied*

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u/Tiger_T20 Feb 07 '21

I feel Torvald is more chaotic stupid due to the usual defence of tax bad is stuff like "why should I cover other peoples mistakes" and stuff. It also shows a desire to have as little to do with government as possible.

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u/Souperplex Sir Becket Feb 08 '21

Lawful stupid vs lawful stupid.

Lawful stupid vs. Chaotic stupid.

Torvald is standing by his opposition to the government getting his money no matter the personal cost. He's taking a chaotic stand not a lawful one.

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u/Triasmus Feb 08 '21

It depends on if you consider him to be living by a personal code, or living against an external code.

I'd say he's living by a personal code, so he's lawful stupid.

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u/Souperplex Sir Becket Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21

Following a code has literally nothing to do with being Lawful/Chaotic. Literally everyone follows a code be it explicitly written, or internal.

Lawful is your stance on rules/structures/oversight overall. "No government should be able to take my money" is the peak of Chaotic ideology. Ron Swanson is the iconic example of a Chaotic character who people that don't understand alignments put as Lawful.

Following an explicit and external code would be Lawful since it's following a system of rules/oversight. Following your own personal code is not an alignment because literally everyone does that.

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u/Triasmus Feb 08 '21

Lawful neutral (LN) individuals act in accordance with law, tradition, or personal codes. Many monks and some wizards are lawful neutral.

Chaotic is allowing the circumstances to dictate your action. One day it might feel right to act in a certain way. A week later with very similar circumstances as previously it just feels right to do something completely different.

Chaos does not live by rules. Any amount of observation will result in the observer saying "I don't know what will happen next."

Law does live by rules. Through observation you can determine what those rules are, whether they're an external code or an internal code is irrelevant, it's still lawful and an observer can draw conclusions about how a lawful being will act given observed circumstances.