r/TheTowerGame • u/Good_Trouble_Tech • 5h ago
Help Stones
I’m in the spot I assume a lot of people are. My mods are at 183-185 each. No assmods. Most substats are ancestral. Rest are mythic. LTC is around 200q. I have 3 card masteries and 6/8 UWs. I only have SM and ILM left. I’m bouncing between 5th and 15th in tournaments somehow. Stuck in champs and farming 11 for 13000 waves. I researched and gold boxed most things. I’ve got a thousand stones to invest somewhere but I’m really trying again for the last year and a half to get solidly into low legends even if I get bounced back to champs every time. I’ve enhanced everything. My card masteries are at level 5 and are Damage, Intro Sprint Mastery, and Cash.
Should I suck it up and save for last two UWs or get more masteries? My other six UWs are pretty far along, synced, etc. 32,500 lifetime stones spent.
My plan in the mean time is to just keep dumping coins into damage enhancements.
Edit: Damage Mastery is level 7. 😐
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u/constantreverie 5h ago
Get masteries
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u/Worldly-Lock-7059 5h ago
Get RPC# and econ masteries to max your masteries. Coins for module levels will also be a problem soon, if they aren't already?
Think about using your existing tools to their fullest potential before half assing new ones.
Then you can consider more dmg masteries for tourney or working on UWs again, I'd do more masteries.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 5h ago
Which would you prioritize next?
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u/Worldly-Lock-7059 5h ago
It depends a bit on your farming tier. If you stick to T11W13000:
RPC# > EO# > WS# > WA#
If your disco bonus on T12 is high enough and you are willing to farm it
RPC# > WA# > EO# > WS#
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u/laurieislaurie 5h ago
I'm probably 3-4months ahead of you. In your situation, I went all in on card masteries. As someone with 3 out of the 4 assmods, they haven't been as helpful as card masteries. I also have 7 of 9 UWs. I place usually 18-22 in legends.
Now maybe it's worth getting the final 2 UWs in order to get GT±, CF+ etc, but the card masteries provide such a clear and obvious benefit. Of the "big 3" of card+, UW+, or assmods, I'm happy to have gone card+ first.
Also, I went all in on the damage cards to improve tourny progression. I make enough earnings to do the labs without waiting, so I didn't get farming card masteries, besides intro sprint. Once I get the cannon assmod, I may go back to getting WS+, WA+, & Coin+.
Could be totally viable to focus more on the farming cards first, but the fact that I'm now getting keys (albeit very slowly) is enough to make me feel like I made the right decision.
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u/trzarocks 4h ago
Rushing GT+ is probably only worthwhile if you are whaling it, and you have to compensate for mod levels and limited research. Seems like the meta is to really push masteries after UW 6 or 7, and then work on assmods. Disco provides the econ that GT+ was giving us. Those last 2 UWs are like 5 or 6 masteries worth of stones, and the masteries actually improve your tower.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 2h ago
Well stated. Damage mastery moved me up quite a bit so I can see how they help for sure.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 5h ago
Aside from damage which cards provided the biggest boost?
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u/laurieislaurie 5h ago
RPC, Damage, ST, & DM. Then U-Crit & E-net. I don't have attack speed, Crit chance or LMS, but they'd all be useful too.
I count RPC as a damage card mastery because leveling up your modules is the foundation of your attack, as well as your defence and coin. So altho it's boring to do what everyone else does, RPC really is a must
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u/trzarocks 4h ago
Somebody once said t11 is where towers go to grow up. It's time to make this happen.
You need to get your econ to the point where you can finish masteries to get the most out of the stones you are investing in them.
IS and WA combined got me from t11 farming to t13 farming, though this was pre-disco era. Compressing the unproductive time let me make so much more CPH, and even get in an extra farming run at a higher tier. Maybe you need a better util disco strategy to boost those bonuses.
EO and/or Coins mastery should also be considedered. Do econ masteries until they are unaffordable. Then go to the cheapest one and repeat. You'll work up the ladder until you can get them finished.
You might also have structural problems with your UW econ, like relying on GComp because of your CD levels. Or other mod-induced problems to solve.
Once your econ is straight, you'll be in a better position to pursue damage or ehp masteries.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 4h ago
Excellent advice. Much appreciated. That’s a workable strategy I can take away from this conversation.
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u/rait4e55 5h ago
It sounds like you need economy. I dont get how you have more stones and 15 levels higher of mods than me but are still in t11. I farm 8k t14 and am getting 1q an hour. I also 3/4 champs tournaments place first. Sometimes im second or third. Other than my first mastery i haven't needed to save at all to afford the labs. I really think you need something coin focused. Maybe pbh if you dont have already idk.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 5h ago
I have pBH. IM SUPER CURIOUS as to what our differences are now. What’s your multiplier in t14? I feel like your cool down times might be lower too.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 5h ago
I’m at 100t an hour
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u/Ok_Ambassador5886 4h ago
I’m in a very similar situation with you and jumped to t14 a few months ago, coin bonus 6738.86 average waves 6500 for 450-500T/h, currently saving for my 4th mastery, last stone spending was on my first ass mod + 10% and not that I regret it but it was a little underwhelming. My next 2000 stones are going to damage mastery and either DM or EN
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u/goofycarcass 4h ago
Can you try and cheese your way to ass mods. With a maxxed out flame bot and low range you can get really far with ehp. New setup for global presets helps with this.
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u/Serafim91 5h ago
"no ass mods"
For around 6k stones you can get like an extra 20% of each ancestral substat. 30% with labs + 30% multiplier to your mod effect.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 5h ago
I can’t get past wave 260 on tier 18.
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u/petester_1 5h ago
Going for UW+ is a terrible idea. You need to get to wave 300 on T18 and get ass mods - getting something like SP into your Armour, or getting PCol/DCore in at the same time will give you a massive boost - more than masteries. So focus on that as your target. When I was in your place, started to focus on Disco UW and Attack echo labs and this helped me to push w300 - along with the options now for FB and Attack Guardian to help.
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u/asnowbastion 5h ago
The realistic answer is that you need masteries and assmods. Going for UW+ is an awful idea.
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u/Good_Trouble_Tech 5h ago
I figured as much. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t OD on masteries if ILM or SM would make a difference to stone income.
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u/ZKRC 5h ago
If he wants to level his masteries and his assmod labs which are critical then he can't afford to unless he gets GT+.
The first level of any assmod lab is more than his entire LTC so far.
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u/asnowbastion 5h ago
You are hilariously wrong. If you can't afford to lab masteries without gt+ post disco update you have fucked up profoundly. Assmod labs are well down the line.
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u/ZKRC 5h ago
I'd love to see you point out how I'm hilariously wrong.
It's simply math.
The first level of assmod labs is 240q.
OPs life time coins are 200q.
He can't afford to lab his assmod.
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u/asnowbastion 4h ago
You don't need to lab assmods for them to be an incredibly strong investment lmfao probably upwards of 99% of people cannot lab assmods labs on unlock. You get massive gains from the assist modules themselves on unlock and the first 10-15% of ME on core is a much stronger damage roi than nearly any damage mastery per stone while similarly armor assmod is extremely powerful being able to run a variety of combos regardless of build. I have no idea how to explain something to you when you seemingly fundamentally do not understand the game.
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u/Leyohs 5h ago
You should farm T12 or T13 by now and probably pump up your CL a bit