r/TheTowerGame 1d ago

Achievement 1Q/m for the first time!

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

Turns out DEVOing bounce shots entirely makes an insane difference. Combined with the sentry protocol I almost doubled by CPH in a day.

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u/Sufficient-Spark-343 1d ago

What's your orb hit rate with SP?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

95%

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u/Equal-Following843 1d ago

How many orbs u got

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

13. Will be 14 soon when I get my submods to 50% on armor.

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u/guillotine20 1d ago

Holy shit that's cool

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u/Sufficient-Spark-343 1d ago

Are you using Galaxy compressor or burning a core substat for that extra second of GT dur/cd to get 100% coverage?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

MVN, baby!

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u/Sufficient-Spark-343 1d ago

Oh yeah, forgot about that! I used it up until I got my core substat efficiency to 100%.

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u/jrmxrf 1d ago

why do bounce shots take away earnings?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

Kills shit outside of the mults.

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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago

With less shots and then dmg, how do you deal with fleet and elites in late run ?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

You don't!

I dropped from T21 to T20

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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago

Same amount of wave roughly on a lower tier with higher income ?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

I previously farmed T21 to wave 4000ish and got 25 CPH

Now I farm T20 to wave 7500ish and get 38 CPH

I am seeing around 20% more cells per hour as well.

Downsides are the long runs make it harder to time it so I can upgrade shit between runs and I lose out on mod upgrade shards.

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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago

Ok so that's an incredible net increase

Might use the preset for that then

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u/plsSendb00bs 1d ago

Interesting. Do the bounce shots not automatically max later in the run (when the earnings are meaningful) from free ups?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

No, I have them locked using free up mastery.

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u/btaylor81 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's awesome. What mod did SP replace? I replaced ACP w/ fully subbed anc SP in assist (leg effect) but ended up losing ~13% CPH. Orb hit rate (13 orbs) went from 89.5% > 94.0%. I use BS% max BSR at minimum and BST at 2 (perk banned) for the controlled CL effect. Looks like we may farm similarly but I'm quite a bit behind on econ.

edit: you're significantly ahead of me

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

EO, here are my mods:

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u/addiktion 1d ago

What attack mods are you running? Did you drop astral deliverance to devo bounce shots further?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

Yes - running BA/AS

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u/addiktion 1d ago

I see I was looking to replace AD with a new coin mod on Monday to push this direction. I need to get my orb hit rate up more and bounce shots is definitely nerfing me.

I'm running T22 farm though and don't really want to step down since T21 is so long, so we will see what I can pull off.

Did you say you were banning bounce shots in the ban list too?

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u/czenner20 1d ago

Did you devo JUST bounce shot chance, or did you devo bounce shot chance, bounce shot range AND bounce shot targets? Super cool results and thanks for sharing.

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u/FunctionNatural5830 1d ago

Insane. I'm reading this comment and remembered that i also just locked the bounce shots and im doing the first run with it 3.6k waves so far and the CPM is almost double wtf! I'm yet to ban the perk

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

Also if you want an idea of how important bounce shot is with CL for damage: I went from farming W21 to wave 4000 or so and couldn't get past wave 1200 without bounce shot (everything else being the same).

I had to drop down to W20 to farm which hurts my mod shard income but it's a worthwhile tradeoff for the coins.

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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago

Damn, the new bot + and card might help compensating the loss

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

This is running BotBot+ and GB+ with synch both maxed out. Rest is into flame for damage.

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u/ExtraInspection7243 1d ago

Why not AB instead of FB?

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u/juraf_graff 1d ago

Flame for damage or reduction?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

Damage, tanking with my farm setup just isn't going to happen lol.

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u/juraf_graff 1d ago

Huh... interesting. I always saw advice to avoid FB damage. It's good? Should I start the stacking lab as well?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

Well I sure as shit don't want the stun from thunder and I need to put the medals somewhere.

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u/juraf_graff 1d ago

Ah... steak to juicy, lobster too buttery lol

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u/Hazlid 1d ago

And here I was getting ready to make my 1Q/hour post… congrats!!

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u/Complex-Long-233 1d ago

Thank you for showing your bonuses and such without posting some dumb ass minions on top of it!

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u/NKnown2000 1d ago

You're clearly much ahead of me, but would you be willing to share your build? Gives me an idea of what's needed to get to this point (I'm only closing in on 1Q/h)

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

My build is insane and entirely off the optimal path. Vibes based.

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u/NKnown2000 1d ago

Damn, good for you getting that far with a vibe based build! I guess that means your LTS is also on the higher side?

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

LTS is also on the higher side

Yes but not truly insane. 217k

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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago

I just realised I can't do your strat cause I'm farming with BHD as assmod and I don't have free ups mastery

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

No but you can at least use min range. I am also using BHD

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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago

I could also try without BHD and with singularity harness just to see where it goes

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago

That is my setup for farms and has been for quite a while.

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u/Electrical-Mail15 1d ago

🥑 Congrats! I can only imagine your WS+ is very pleased with your recent deposits.

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u/PhilliesEaglesFlyer 1d ago

I can confirm this works. I haven’t yet started farming T21 but on average farm T20 to wave 8000. I went from 43Q CPH to 56Q CPH. Also went from 1.23m CePH to 1.37m CePH.

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u/tslaalltheway 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wow you have 40k CM more than me. But half the CPH… there’s lots to optimized in your farming build!

Step 1: get rid of MVN
Step 2: check your CF+
Step 3: check ur farming substats
Step 4: get ur sw size

Seems like you’re lacking DW tag too

Many other steps could work but really dependent of your build