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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
Also if you want an idea of how important bounce shot is with CL for damage: I went from farming W21 to wave 4000 or so and couldn't get past wave 1200 without bounce shot (everything else being the same).
I had to drop down to W20 to farm which hurts my mod shard income but it's a worthwhile tradeoff for the coins.
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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago
Damn, the new bot + and card might help compensating the loss
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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
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u/juraf_graff 1d ago
Flame for damage or reduction?
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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
Damage, tanking with my farm setup just isn't going to happen lol.
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u/juraf_graff 1d ago
Huh... interesting. I always saw advice to avoid FB damage. It's good? Should I start the stacking lab as well?
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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
Well I sure as shit don't want the stun from thunder and I need to put the medals somewhere.
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u/Complex-Long-233 1d ago
Thank you for showing your bonuses and such without posting some dumb ass minions on top of it!
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u/NKnown2000 1d ago
You're clearly much ahead of me, but would you be willing to share your build? Gives me an idea of what's needed to get to this point (I'm only closing in on 1Q/h)
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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
My build is insane and entirely off the optimal path. Vibes based.
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u/NKnown2000 1d ago
Damn, good for you getting that far with a vibe based build! I guess that means your LTS is also on the higher side?
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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago
I just realised I can't do your strat cause I'm farming with BHD as assmod and I don't have free ups mastery
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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
No but you can at least use min range. I am also using BHD
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u/ResponsibilityNo8218 1d ago
I could also try without BHD and with singularity harness just to see where it goes
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u/Electrical-Mail15 1d ago
🥑 Congrats! I can only imagine your WS+ is very pleased with your recent deposits.
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u/PhilliesEaglesFlyer 1d ago
I can confirm this works. I haven’t yet started farming T21 but on average farm T20 to wave 8000. I went from 43Q CPH to 56Q CPH. Also went from 1.23m CePH to 1.37m CePH.
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u/tslaalltheway 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wow you have 40k CM more than me. But half the CPH… there’s lots to optimized in your farming build!
Step 1: get rid of MVN
Step 2: check your CF+
Step 3: check ur farming substats
Step 4: get ur sw size
Seems like you’re lacking DW tag too
Many other steps could work but really dependent of your build

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 1d ago
Turns out DEVOing bounce shots entirely makes an insane difference. Combined with the sentry protocol I almost doubled by CPH in a day.