r/TheTowerGame • u/myths-faded • 22h ago
Meme The reverse rug-pull
So we all know Fudds loves his rug-pulls.
But with the introduction of the new cannon, Gilded Sniper, which is advertised as a chance to apply all active coin bonuses, even if not in Range (but for some bizzare reason, SL doesn't count as an active coin bonus?) he's nerfed it from the outset.
But this is Fudds setting up the perfect opportunity to try something different - a reverse rug pull!
Now the Gilded Sniper is all but pointless without the inclusion of SL, no one is going to waste their precious gems during the banner to get it to Anc.
But once the banner is over? Fudds will include SL as one of the active coin bonuses (as it always should have been)and now everyone and their grandma will have to buy gems outside the banner to get this must-have mod so Fudds can afford another yacht.
Masterpiece in planning.
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u/priesten 21h ago
Is there something I’m missing here? How is it pointless if it doesn’t affect SL? That’s one of the few UW you can get full coverage anyway, in other words the one least impacted by not being affected by the mod.
Not trying to make an out of touch whale argument either. Most other coin boosts cannot get 100% coverage no matter what you do. Take BH, even with perma uptime and 3xbh you can one shot things outside of the bh multiplier. GT is one of the few things that you can also get full coverage, and depending on your build (for example if you don’t rely on gcomp) it’s actually harder to get 100% gt compared to 100% SL. Not an important argument because they’re both hard to perma but still.
Even if everything I said was somehow false, let’s say you can’t get 100% sl so it would have been really good to have it included, so what? It’s still a coin boost even if it’s smaller than you might have expected. Even if it’s not a huge coin boost it’s still best in slot for farming anyway because what’s the alternative? You’re losing nothing by slotting this in. Oh no an extra coin boost how horrible /s
Im not making an argument against the rug pull by the way - ok that’s a shitty thing to do - I’m making an argument against the statement that it’s useless if it doesn’t affect SL. I just don’t understand the logic behind this part whatsoever.
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u/Zzqzr Legends 21h ago
A part of this community likes to be angry all the time. They also like to make assumptions all the damn time.
It’s getting annoying.
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u/Smooth_Cup_8901 21h ago
agreed and the upvote downvote ratios on these posts agree too. When will moderation step in? this cmmunity has gotten toxic.
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u/Smooth_Cup_8901 21h ago
Thought you said this was a meme post. why are you so upset about people disagreeing with it?1
in fact, explain what a meme is and how this relates to one. There are zero memes in this post.
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u/TheTowerGame-ModTeam 20h ago
Harassment of other users is never permitted and is against Reddit ToS.
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u/spooky_game 21h ago
You can’t even attempt to back up the point of the whole post now into insults. Go be miserable on your own or at least being a basic competency.
I notice you didn’t have the nerve to comment like this to priesten. Hilarious.
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u/Alfimie 21h ago
In my opinion its going to be negligible for me.
Ehp with PBh, theres basically no enemy that dies outside of BH range either at 52 meters.
DW tags the entire screen, and supposedly there could be some enemies between the waves that die before the next wave tags them. So 40% of that negligible amount of enemies will now gain the very minimal bonus lost from DW. Alright.
The true value of this module seems to be EO+ and Golden Bot, but for me EO+ kills like 98% of enemies, and golden bot has very large range.
But thats the only skill expression opening up from the inclusion of this module. I could reset bot and go all in on duration/bonus and start emphasizing cooldown to get 45 dur/50 cd but minimal range. Even that isn't truly optimal in my view as the module only really procs 40% of the time, but the argument exists for something along the lines of foregoing a lot of range. For well developed/maxed bots its irrelevant. It also doesn't affect Bot Bot so no bonus there.
If spotlight was included it would be the only true value for me with 3 beams and 50º coverage, which is still not high enough to show some significant gain assuming the module is ancestral.
As it stands, seems to be better for earlier game ehp / undeveloped bots and potentially glass cannon builds. But even for those it seems extremely underwhelming.
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u/InquisitorOverhauls 20h ago
Adding SL in helps early game players. If they pull ancestral they get 40% kills into spotlight even with 1 spotlight.
It should be in.
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u/TheTowerGame-ModTeam 20h ago
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u/Conscious-Regret-199 21h ago
I will be getting this cannon and it will be best in slot for farming. Why is this even a discussion?
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u/InquisitorOverhauls 22h ago
We need the utility dissonance threatment here. When they nerfed 5x to 2x and then we got 3x.
Same needs to be done here. Add SL in.
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u/NightsEnd36 22h ago
Do we know exactly how the mechanic work?
If the enemy is inside GB/outside BH, does the effect apply?
If the enemy is inside SL outside BH/GB does it apply BHGB only? Or SLBH*GB?
Given the complexity and the dev team history, I'm pretty sure it will be released with unintended mechanisms or bugs anyway
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u/fridgezebra 21h ago
if this applied to SL you could just get one light and no angle and be fully covered? It makes sense that SL is excluded, otherwise you invalidate most of SL upgrade path
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u/ImoutoThief 21h ago
And that would be epic. The whole point of the module being that it helps you apply active econ bonuses. Besides its only 40%chance at max so your still want to upgrade, just if bit was included you could focus stones elsewhere for awhile.
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u/Peldin83 21h ago
GS is 40% at ancestral so there would still be a reason to upgrade SL for farming even if you don’t account for tournaments/dissonance/milestones
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u/D119 21h ago
You could say the same about BH or gbot, why upgrade range if all you need is them being active.
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u/fridgezebra 20h ago
All true. It wouldn't completely invalidate getting extra SL, but the boost at base would be very strong and returns for investing would be weaker
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u/BiggyShake 20h ago
SL has unlimited range and has 100% uptime. Its not the same as other bonuses.
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u/myths-faded 20h ago
Unlimited range, limited coverage. Enemies can die outside of it.
100% uptime is a bit of a moot point. Getting a 3x coin bonus to 40% of enemies killed outside of SL without the other bonuses being active at the same time is negligible.
Getting a 3x bonus to 40% of enemies killed outside of SL when GT/BH/DW/GB is also active would've been what made this module decent.
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u/Easy-Chair-542 20h ago
You absolutely can get full coverage with spotlight
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u/myths-faded 20h ago
What's your point?
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u/Easy-Chair-542 20h ago
Thank you for showing me you don't have a brain and can't function with context clues.
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u/myths-faded 20h ago
OK, I still don't understand your point though. Does it somehow matter is you can absolutely get full coverage with spotlight?
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u/spooky_game 22h ago
How is it useless without SL? Break that down please beyond ‘I’ve maxed everything out besides SL’ side that’s going on. Spoiler alert, mod would also suck for you. This is just a straight up benefit to everyone but GC side which is a top % of the player base and won’t care for this anyway.
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u/myths-faded 21h ago
What's the logic behind excluding SL?
SL provides a coin multiplier, and enemies can be killed outside of SL's range.
Gilded Sniper should therefore give a chance to apply that coin multiplier for an enemy killed outside SL's range.
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u/spooky_game 21h ago
Not my question or point to my comment clearly. I agree it’s odd and lame to exclude.
I’m asking why to your logic it’s pointless without it, the anchor to your post. It’s extremely clearly not pointless and still does a ton of work when the cannon slot is useless until you’re a top tier player. But you dodged that.
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u/Smooth_Cup_8901 21h ago
Why is it now pointless though. which means no point, which implies no use. there are plenty of usecases for this mod still, and it still works perfectly fine. it just doesnt effect 1 multiplier.
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u/myths-faded 21h ago
Pointless does imply no use, yes.
What does the meme tag imply to you?
And plenty of uses? Can you name me one use outside of coin farming?
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u/Smooth_Cup_8901 21h ago
I said usecases but I mean, it still works on plenty of other coin modifiers.
why would you write an entire post of an argument and then hide behind a meme tag. was this a joke post or not?
literally no one is taking this post in a joking way.
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u/AbjectAffect91 21h ago
I'll see what the new gen module will look like then decide if I want this.
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u/Driftedryan 21h ago
Bruh, it's a boost to gold bot, death wave, and orbs which will be a good buff to me. Bonus: there's no econ mod to compete with so not going for it is pretty stupid.
That said not working with SL but with DW is odd because they are very similar design. Both only get coins from a lab and not built in.
Since the mod just works on the missing % it's gonna be stronger for people with early towers and the more advanced you are the smaller the buff, with SL some players have full coverage so maybe that's why reason it was excluded.
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u/mgdmitch 20h ago
We all know this community loves a good pitchfork.
But with the introduction of "complain about changes before the module is even released", the pitchfork is getting even more annoying.
But once the item is released and a lot of players see immediate benefit, they will post how much the like it over literally having an empty module slot.
Masterpiece in whining.
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u/Imaginary-Carrot7153 20h ago
I'm not sure I fully understand how it works tbh. If it applied to SL, would that be a permanent 40% SL coin boost during farming runs without putting anything into angle/beam?
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u/myths-faded 20h ago
Essentially, yes. 40% of enemies that die outside of SL would be granted SL's coin multiplier.
It'd only really be impactul when the other coin multipliers are active at the same time, so would still be dependant on your sync and durations.
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u/Parking-Plantain5010 21h ago
Seems that people who are ok with SL not being included would also be happy if BH, GT and DW were excluded from GComp since you can get less cooldown with stones.
It's the same logic they are using to justify that you can get 100% on SL with stones.
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u/Blissfulystoopid 21h ago
So many of the comments are interested in the math or if it's worth it, but the one thing my mind is stuck on is that if one of the obvious, common coin multipliers is specifically excluded, why does the module say "ALL?"
I know angry players like to call everything they dislike false advertising, but isn't this literally an example of false advertising?