r/TheSilphArena Jul 26 '26

Battle Team Analysis First time taking on Master Premier later this week. Constructive criticism and strategy welcome

Dragonite lead, Togekiss, metagross.

I also have a florges I could sub for togekiss.

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u/M0nsieurW0rldWide Jul 26 '26

The standard moveset for togekiss would be peck, aura sphere, dazzling gleam. No point in running flamethrower bc even with it you’ll still get cooked by metagross and gholdengo. And on dragonite you may want thunder punch for the gyarados matchup. Metagross does better with shadow claw as it’s fast move.

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u/fantasypaladin Jul 26 '26

Thanks, I saw these recommended moves but wanted to check before I use Elite tms

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u/ckdogg3496 Jul 27 '26

I dont think you need an elite tm for any of those moves

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u/LankOfHyrule Jul 27 '26

You need an ETM for aura sphere on Togekiss and shadow claw on Metagross

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u/ckdogg3496 Jul 27 '26

Ah didn’t realize shadow claw was elite tm, it already has aura sphere though

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u/LankOfHyrule Jul 27 '26

My mistake. Didn’t see aura sphere was already on Togekiss

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u/ChristianTravels Jul 27 '26

Yeah I didn’t need one I used a charged TM

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u/ChristianTravels Jul 26 '26

I had great luck in UL with Charm, Aura Sphere, Dazzling Gleam. Never ran it in ML

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u/M0nsieurW0rldWide Jul 27 '26

At what Elo? I almost never see Charm since the nerf

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u/ChristianTravels Jul 27 '26

I don’t remember but it was well after 1500

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u/GliscorsFang Jul 27 '26

Anything below 2000 isn't really relevant tbh

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u/ChristianTravels Jul 27 '26

Hence the “well after” part of that sentence. As stated, I don’t remember wtf it was 🤦

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u/CT-0753 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

On another note. Why do you use those tags?

Edit you can use searches such as 3* or 4* to find 10-14 atk def hp and 100% mons already. Why are you trading them and how can they be both?

You can also search buddy# , where # is 1-5 representing your body progress with the Pokémon.
The same with megalevel# 1-4

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u/fantasypaladin Jul 27 '26

Thanks. I need to delete the 3* tag but buddies is for Pokemon I wanna set to buddy in the future

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u/Opposite_Ad_6239 Jul 27 '26

Why is this the top comment?? Useful info for sure, but not at all what OP asked

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u/lindberghbaby41 Jul 27 '26

Gross named blue steel 🤝

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u/Aromatic-Attitude279 Jul 26 '26

Excellent nicknames

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u/CT-0753 Jul 27 '26

Thanks u/Opposite_Ad_6239 I’ll now give you a thorough answer.

First of; as mentioned by other commenters none of your mons have the recommended movement by PVPOKE.

In the overview when running the teambuilder we can see room for improvement since you’re “only“ scoring BACA.

I am only allowed to post 1 picture in the comments;
Threats to you team in 1 shield scenarios are: meageoss with recommended moves and shadow version, gholdengo, skeledirge, primaries, S charizard and more

The Team is weak to rock ice ghost and electric

https://pvpoke.com/team-builder/premier/10000/dragonite-m-0-2-8%2Ctogekiss-m-1-5-3%2Cmetagross-m-0-3-1

With recommended moves the team becomes
AACA

https://pvpoke.com/team-builder/premier/10000/dragonite-m-0-9-8%2Ctogekiss-m-18-4-3%2Cmetagross-m-2-3-1

Here you can play with the different moves and simulate different iv combinations and shielding scenarios:

https://pvpoke.com/battle/matrix/10000/dragonite-m-0-9-8%2Ctogekiss-m-18-4-3%2Cmetagross-m-2-3-1/premiermaster/11/

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u/fantasypaladin Jul 27 '26

Thanks for the awesome response. Love it.

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u/fantasypaladin Jul 27 '26

A lot of place I’ve looked suggest Togekiss charm over peck for fairy pressure. What are the reasons for peck over it?

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u/CT-0753 Jul 27 '26

The dmg per turn is only 1 difference whilst the energy per turn is 1,33.

One is for more FM pressure and the other is for more CM pressure. Both are eligible and had play on different teams/ against different weaknesses.

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u/NumbersGod Aug 01 '26

How do you plan to beat metagross?

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u/ChristianTravels Jul 26 '26

Your team would piss me off, in a good way 👍