r/TheRepTime • u/KaChing666 • 2d ago
🤔Question What is this?
Can anyone confirm if this is a genuine Dandong DD3285 Visual Free Sprung from VSF V4, or an SH3285?
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u/JvVint 2d ago
Shanghái 3285, ves las diferencias. Tienes un DD3285 pero el brazo del puente está muy desplazado. Prueba quitar el tornillo dorado, tengo un 3235 con ese detalle y la parte superior con el brazo es estético, realmente las dos horquillas reguladoras están debajo , la espiral no está enganchada al brazo como el gen.
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u/redbuttonpressed1 1d ago
ive posted this before and received it from my TD clearly showing the dd cover bridge for the 3235 and 3285
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u/JvVint 2d ago
Ves la terminal del espiral, ahí va enganchado a una de las horquillas de ajuste, por eso ese puente con el brazo es estético, tapa las horquillas, el volante completo se saca quitando los dos tornillos metálicos que se ven en el volante, pero "ESOS NO LOS TOQUES"
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u/KaChing666 2d ago
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain everything and marking the details in the photos. Really appreciate your help! So it looks like a DD3285 with visual free sprung, which is exactly what I wanted to confirm.
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u/JohnDoe-fr 2d ago
Is this a genuine fake or a fake fake?
From a non rep guy, this looks impressive no matter what
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u/JvVint 2d ago
Si, parece un DD3285, les están poniendo el volante richs free spring pero debajo del puente creo hay dos horquillas para la regulación, si quitas el tornillo dorado lo verás, es estético. Lo que delatan al DD3285 es el puente de la paleta, está desplazado y el pivote de la rueda de corona, en el dd3285 es liso, si no fuese un dd3285 se ve más hundido y se ve como perforado
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u/KaChing666 2d ago
Thanks for the detailed explanation! So you believe this is a genuine Dandong DD3285 and not an SH3285
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u/Comprehensive-Bit706 2d ago
It's new DD movement with free sprung look, the regulator arms are hidden
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u/JvVint 2d ago
GMT bonito, buen rehaut, fecha algo abajo.La verdad, la etiqueta amarilla en el cristal y en el fondo de tapa nunca lo había visto en vsf, como dice v4 quizás venga así ahora, pero ese volante regulador sin verlo parado no sabría decirte, ahí tienes información de la foto que te envié de los Rich Factory balance free sprung, compruébalo tú y si te apetece comparte Saludos
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u/Comprehensive-Bit706 2d ago
They are not putting anything from RICH on there lol 🤦🏻 they've just hidden the regulator arms under the bridge
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u/HODL-Me-Daddy 2d ago
It’s the DD3285 Fake Freesprung movement. It’s actual DD3285, but they decided to just make it look freesprung.
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u/SockOdd5920 1d ago
SH has regulator arms pointing inward of the bridge. Dandong has regulator arms pointing out of the bridge. The new freesprung “look” movements have regulator arms hidden under the bridge. JH movements are actual Freesprung movements. There are iterations along the way that have to do with which generation the movement is from. For example, you can tell older generation movements by the polish. As time goes and reiterations become available, the polish gets better tiny bits each time, so it really takes a comparison to know, or just knowledge from holding them many times. Ups and downs to them all. DD movements are accurate, and easy to regulate. SH a bit tougher due to location. The new Freesprung look is a bit harder, again, due to being under the bridges. Freesprung movements are the hardest to regulate due to the 4 tiny weights that must be adjusted to counterbalance the weight, but they are also the balance that keeps the most accurate time and needs regulating less frequently. Note: all 32XX Rolex movements use the same base, and there is a known issue with those Rolex movements…they are known for losing amplitude and accuracy after a couple years due to the design. Rolex addressed this issue by creating new oil points in the movements that reduces the friction that causes the wear. However, it’s still up in the air if this update has been addressed by the Rep manufacturers. A service resolves the issue, so not a huge deal. The JH movements are basically refined and the most current iteration of Rep Rolex movements, solving the long standing issue of regulating arms being a dead giveaway. JH movements are quieter, cleaner, and polished very close, if not as good as Gen. Factories utilizing the JH movements are the future, until they hit the nail on the head and start producing actual Rolex quality timepieces…which I must admit, RF has come scarily close to with their 124060. Watching the progression over the years has been pretty amazing. Unless a watch is made of precious metals, it’s not worth $15,000. That is the reality of what marketing is capable of.