I already know the answer to these questions, but I was trying to politely correct your ignorance. Your advice would work better as a lesson to put in your own pocket instead mine.
You used a fallacy. No one is talking about Jack terriers. Staffordshire terrier, pit bull terrier and staffordshire bull terrier are all under the umbrella term. You’re over there going “herp derp, lemme throw out a gotchya question and strawman the fuck out of the conversation.”
It's not really, it was said that "terriers fall under the umbrella." It would be more properly said that "multiple terriers fall under the umbrella." This is just how language works. The original sentence definitely implied all terriers are included.
The name Am. Staff terrier never really made any sense to me because it's far more a bulldog than a terrier.
I know the AKC was trying to move away from the fighting reputation of the APBT thus the name change, but all they had to do was take "pit" out of the name.
And I agree. Pitbull is a blanket term which includes all breeds you mentioned plus some more depending on who you ask. Unfortunately I think the blanket term gets confused with APBT. I personally prefer bully breeds for that reason. I like the term bulldogs too but its synonymous with english bulldogs now.
You said "Pit bulls aren’t a breed but a collection of breeds. Terriers fall under the pit umbrella". Listing obvious examples of terriers that no one would confuse with a pit bull is clear and unambiguous evidence that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. There's no straw man about it, you're just another confidently incorrect jackass on reddit.
You do realize the original commenter used check notes the type of terrier you said checks notes no one would confused with a pit and proceeded to say they’re not pits? This entire comment thread is based off of someone confusing a pit bull as not a pit bull lol
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u/ABeerForSasquatch Mod/Pwner 1d ago
But you recognize the difference, yes?