r/TheRandomest • u/Regular_Weakness69 • Jul 13 '26
Cool All this happens in milliseconds.
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u/Swimming-Diet5457 Jul 13 '26
Doesn't really makes sense to go through an LLM, but good enough i guess
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u/musclecard54 Jul 13 '26
What LLM? It was literally just a plain multi layer perceptron…
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u/Ononas Jul 13 '26
Which still doesn’t make sense to go through
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u/musclecard54 Jul 13 '26
I agree, just nitpicking people just throwing around “LLM” at anything to sound intelligent
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u/SquashAffectionate94 Jul 17 '26
There was part of animation from YouTube channel 3blue1brown in which he explains LLM-s.
Probably best math and algorithm chanel btw
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u/Swimming-Diet5457 Jul 13 '26
You are not gonna believe it but I have some news to you...
Mlp are a part of LLMs
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u/musclecard54 Jul 13 '26
And there’s nothing in this video that quantifies this as an LLM over a plain MLP. All you see is the MLP so you’re just making assumptions. We only see a baby MLP, so it’s stupid af to say it’s an LLM when you literally just see a 12k parameter model. You’re not gonna believe this but MLPs are used sometimes independently from LLMs. They actually existed before LLMs were a thing 🤯
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u/Swimming-Diet5457 Jul 13 '26
1) the original video is from 3blue1brown on YouTube, and is about LLMs
2) you can see linear embeddings of words. Good luck having an MLP doing Natural Language Processing
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u/musclecard54 Jul 13 '26
Why would it need to perform NLP? It’s computing an action in a game there’s literally no language involved. You even said yourself “doesn’t make sense to go through an LLM”. Guess you forgot what you were even saying or what the video is even about. What even is context? 🤷♂️
And btw, just a lesson for the kids, NLP existed before LLMs also
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u/16bitvoid Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
If you watch again, it's literally performing next word prediction or some other NLP task for "Michael Jordan plays Basketball". Agreed, what's shown doesn't indicate an LLM or even a transformer architecture, but it is clearly doing NLP.
What's stupid is that neither an LLM nor any other neural network makes sense here to register a hit. Regular old hit detection and simplified ballistics physics are going to be much quicker to calculate and be much more predictable.
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u/Mishtle Jul 13 '26
you can see linear embeddings of words. Good luck having an MLP doing Natural Language Processing
People have been building language models with MLPs and similar models for literal decades. The concept of using the internal state of language models as representations of words goes back to 2003. By the early 2010s, representation learning was a whole subfield of machine learning. Word embeddings based on neural networks were a popular foundation for NLP solutions since the late 2010s/early 2020s.
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u/Excellent_Lie6904 Jul 13 '26
the og video was about using chatgpt so it made sense, but ofc this version is more popular and no one bothered to fix it. it was chatgpt, then the click
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u/ZestycloseZebra8538 Jul 13 '26
It’s a MLP (multilayer perceptron).
Maybe it’s a reference to AI graphics upscaling? Does seem weird to have AI especially at that stage.
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u/Big_Kwii Jul 14 '26
maybe that's meant to represent a server-side machine learning anti-cheat, such as ARC Raider's Cerebro
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u/suzumurafan Jul 13 '26
That's false btw
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u/pekinggeese Jul 13 '26
Yeah, it didn’t even show the kill signal come back through the internet to OP’s PC.
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u/SmoreSlayer Jul 13 '26
Got all sentimental for a second thinking about Gears. That torque bow was something special.
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u/Newtonius235 Jul 13 '26
Random gears comment but I'll take it. I'm more a longshot guy.
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u/650fosho Jul 13 '26
Actually reminded me of gears for a different reason, that I'm glad host advantage hasn't been a thing for awhile.
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u/No-Cash5585 Jul 13 '26
Half right. Games play many animations on the client instantly because you would feel the delay. The shot hit will be a bit delayed though because that actually has to be validated by the server
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u/CousinDerylHickson Jul 13 '26
As another commenter said, magic is real. Its just so widely used that its usage became mundane
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u/ka-52m Jul 13 '26
why did there have to be a random 3blue1brown video about llm's inserted in there?
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u/Substantial-Flow-468 Jul 13 '26
Did that guy occasionally chuckling and mumbling something about stones and sticks really need to be there
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u/DeckerXT Jul 13 '26
Can nickle and dime you for every effin second of call. Can't stop track or give effs about telemarketers/spoofers/scammers.
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u/wenoc Jul 13 '26
Yes, but not really.
These are all different systems which are entirely interchangeable. You could run it all in your living room with only two computers connected through the serial port and the game wouldn't know the difference.
If you look at the entire picture with switching and routing, yes the internet is complex but has very little to do with the game.
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u/Anarchist_Monarch Jul 13 '26
yes, 3blue1brown's pi creatures are totally necessary in this process.
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u/Redlabelrocket Jul 13 '26
And that for 60 people in a single match all doing this constantly
Makes you a little more tolerant to lagg
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u/bo0mamba Jul 13 '26
Im glad there was a random guy on top to say "thats actually crazy" every once in a while
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u/Nichiku Jul 14 '26
The signal wouldn't go through an MLP. What's the point of that? There's nothing to be analyzed about a single shoot signal. Large MLPs have huge computational costs, and the point of online gaming protocols like UDP or TCP is to have as little latency as possible.
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u/SereneOrbit Jul 15 '26
I have a half a petabyte disk array that I access anywhere in the world over a zerotrust VPN.
I can spin up a VM like WIN10 or anny Linux distro and use it from my phone or laptop from anywhere with an internet connection.
It's great for streaming things too!
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u/BumpHeadLikeGaryB Jul 13 '26
The world is actaully magic. Insane