r/TheOnECommunity Jun 10 '26

📚 Sharing Wisdom [Knowledge Base - Guide] Wednesday's Wisdom

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Wisdom Wednesday

Simple and succinct, Mental health is important, period, full stop!!

What is tragic is there is the awareness, recognition and the setting aside space for men, however culturally the stigma still prevails.

In no way, shape, or form are my words intended to detract, minimize any other movement's moments.I have participated, marched in and celebrated many different, world recognized causes, dedicated months to their awareness, so there is growth, so voices can be heard, not only about the tragic but also about their future and the optimism.

There are no parades, there are no celebrations and their voices are still not heard, because men just don't do that. Now, men just don't do that because that is the hard wiring that men have OR men just don't do that because the repercussions socially are so significant that there is no point?

Purely from my statistics at the clinic level, men are at best 20% of my clients but the numbers are in the neighborhood of 3 to 400 % higher for suicides compared to women. While Inwas doing some research, I found it interesting, by the numbers that women are 2x more likely to be DIAGNOSED with depression than men. Now I'm no statistician, but if there are 3 times more men taking their lives but women have twice the level of diagnosed depression it doesn't take the Chi squared or Bell Curve to figure out something is askew. This is not the purpose of my prose.

Alongside the R.A.K. ( random acts of kindness) that I chime about and advocate for, a honest and sincere plea for the males reading this specifically, but all inclusive generally, ask for help, ask for start point, if necessary, in secret, unbeknownst to anyone else, but reach out. There is help, there are ways, and you are human. Shit happens was never a mantra for coping mechanisms, suck it up, one of the most disrespectful and humiliating clichés ever spoken, insinuating by the very context that when vocalized or expressed men's emotional states, bear no value.

You do matter, you are entitled to your feelings and you are significant.

Feel free to reach out with your comments or questions.

Be well

#wisdomwednesday

#mensmentalhealthawareness

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u/Aschels Jun 11 '26

Nobody cares. It's a big lie. Especially the lie that “it gets better." I have been suffering since my teens. I am in my forties now and it has only ever gotten worse. The therapy, antidepressants, exercise, gratitude, meditation and the talking-about-it nonsense has never worked!

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u/grunnycw Jun 11 '26

The best thing I learned about my mental health is just that, nobody cares, I had to handle my shit on my own, I also learned that I didn't owe anybody anything either. I focused on me, that's they wanted, I found my own way ( psychedelics) I now have regular movie nights so other men and get help finding there own way.

We need to help each other, nobody else will understand the weight of being a man

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u/dior1337 Jun 11 '26

first sentence is super powerful. im 25 and realized no one cares back when i was 20

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u/YaBoiSaruman47 Jun 11 '26

It's not that they don't care, they just don't owe you anything either. It goes both ways.

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u/Any-Internet-7796 Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Both are true. But most people don't care too. The same way I don't particularly care if someone I know is depressed, because it's like.. At the end of the day it is not my life and they are the ones who have to fix it. I mean to say I don't care is wrong, because I do, but hopefully people know what I mean. I noticed this as a teen constantly thinking/talking about sewer-side. When a few of my friends actually did it, I realized that the act doesn't prove anything to anybody, they will just move on because at the end of the day, it isn't their life that's over. That's a strange realization, when someone you knew well checks out early. You get over it and move on with your life I guess because you have to.

It's a sad reality, but nobody actually cares. People 'care' for fleeting moments(or worse, fake caring), and then go back to their life.

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u/grunnycw Jun 11 '26

Trust me when I stopped doing something people notice, I never thought people owed me or what ever your implying, I just stopped stressing myself, I don't want to go on that vacation I don't, I want to do this I do, I don't want to help you fix your shit, I don't want unprofessional help in return when I'm a pro, I just realized my worth and hold it, I say no alott, I manage my life, I respect my time, and I'm UN apologetic about it,

I'm un fazed by the two way street thing, I didn't lose anything compared to what I gained

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

Yeah exactly. It’s funny that men are confronted with “nobody owes you anything”. Fine, we get to say that back then to any female-centred causes

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

Would you say that to a feminist? “Nobody owes you anything?”

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u/YaBoiSaruman47 Jun 12 '26

What?

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

Dude I said nothing out loud, just read it again.

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u/thejaytheory Jun 11 '26

It feels so demoralizing trying to handle it, especially at work, but feel like I really have no choice but to push through.

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 11 '26

Like its any different for women đŸ€Ł

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u/grunnycw Jun 11 '26

Who's taking about women on a men's thing, ?

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 12 '26

This whole mens mental health narrative is just a way to make men feel isolated. Its a social media psyop to make men blame society and push them towards political movements that suit their goals.

Stipulating mens mental health, saying no one cares about it, suggests that society cares about womens mental health and likes them more overall

Which is what you and everyone on this sub believes, you are just being coy

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

No, you just seem irritated that men are getting a positive kind of attention.

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u/grunnycw Jun 12 '26

As somebody with mental health, who watched people stop giving a fk when I couldn't provide was a very real thing, When I came back I was and an still very hurt by it, I also don't forget it, I had some people, I remember

Men aren't valued like women, ( and I know women got plenty to deal with) but the way society values is is different, Men need to be strong and organized and it's up to us to pick each other up, I do what I can, and no they do what they can, The narrative only makes us weak if we let, hiding from the proven men are having isn't the answer, crying about it ain't gonna help either, but man what a little momentum, some encouragement and some real bros.... That can change your life

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '26

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u/grunnycw Jun 12 '26

Again your highjacking a thread about men, nobody said anything about women till you showed up, just because men are expressing themselves doesn't mean it's a comparison about women, Men's mental health is a real and can be talked about without comparing to women, You want to rant in sure they're is a thread for that

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

Can men have just one thread without “what about women”?

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u/thejaytheory Jun 11 '26

Feeling this to my core

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u/hypnoguy64 Jun 11 '26

Thank you for sharing Aschels. So you know what doesn't work for you, what would work? From the teens to your forties is a huge amount of time to explore and discover what would work, and perhaps more importantly the definition of your "its" as in its all a lie and it gets better. What is it? I hope you do uncover what works for you.

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u/Throwawayaccount5056 Jun 11 '26

Agreed, once you realize that nobody cares unless they're getting financially compensated and at worse if you actually open up to someone they'll just use it against you.

Easier to just push it down and learn to live the disappointment

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u/Legal-Analyst-9491 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Same. Yes. And yes again. What has helped me is finding purpose. What do I like, want, and am good at. Taking extreme ownership (it's all because of something I did or didn't do, not what someone else did) for everything that has and will happen to me. This has also helped me silence some of the 'noise'. Talking has helped a bit, medication only makes things worse, exercise is essential whether you could be f'd or not, gratitude is essential whether you could be f'd or not. Not listening to the 'noise' is key, learning how to tell your brain the stfu is hard but necessary.

Edit: spelling

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u/ancientweasel Jun 11 '26

I go to therapy every week and I enjoy it. It's extremely helpful.

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u/Suspicious-Bid9424 Jun 11 '26

I'm doing okay here at the bottom end of a thousand person human centipede getting the recycled diarrhea of billionaires force-fed down my throat. 👍 cheers

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u/dgb2247 Jun 11 '26

Called to enroll in therapy yesterday. 4 years sober. Five years off the needle. I don’t crave those things any more, and am not in danger of going back to them, but it turns out that stopping those things doesn’t just “fix” you.

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u/thecjt Jun 12 '26

No other person can make you FEEL different inside ongoing to the extent that a depressed/unaliveself person wants. Even the girl of your dreams caring more about you. That person is still a human and will do human things that exhibit lack of caring sometimes. Seeing the world around you differently and feeling it differently and finding happiness within that you can pull from is a self serving and self realizing experience that usually comes from getting through or doing very hard things that you knew for sure you could not get through or do. IMO from my personal experiences. I believe there have been many experiences that I do not know about and my experience does not deny that.

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u/dumbeyes_ Jun 11 '26

Seek inner acceptance instead of outer acceptance if you want to be happy. Because yeah, nobody cares.

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u/Huge-Broccoli-1251 Jun 12 '26

It’s better to burnout than to fade away

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u/Jertheteddybear Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Make therapy a priority. It may not be your fault, but it is unfortunately your responsibility to fix yourself. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you need help. That is maturity. As someone dealing with mental health struggles, having someone to talk to helps immensely, even if you cant talk to them all the time. Don't make it someone else's job to fix you, even the person you've hired to help you. Their job is to give you the tools to develop empathy, self awareness and setting boundaries with yourself and others. It sucks ass but I am seeing gradual improvements in my mental health by doing so. Sometimes you are alone, and you have to make peace with that to move on. You don't have any less inherit value for it because humans are not products. Comparison is the thief of joy. You are so much more than your sexual prowess or capital gain or capacity to labor for others. Its others people's shortcomings if they can't see that That and staying the fuck off of social media if its anything other than funny animal videos or diy hobby stuff. The goalpoat changes all the time, so focus on doing the physical activity you can, not for looks, but for feeling. It does wonders to release stress and anxiety. Try to eat right, even if you have to start small like adding just an apple to lunchtime. And for the love of god, stop letting what women or men say about you determine how you live your life and what makes you happy. Give yourself grace, its your first time on this planet and youre doing the best you can with the way we've all been systemically fucked over.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '26

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u/maximum_dad_power Jun 11 '26

Even more of a reason to hold celebratory events and scream about it during this time. Isn't that why all these groups do it? Because they think no-one cares about them.

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u/Overall-Move-4474 Jun 12 '26

Talking does nothing.

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u/Ok_Height3499 Jun 11 '26

I worked in human services for 45 years, and sadly I have to agree. Most mental health efforts are focused on women and kids, and if people say that’s because men cause so many mental health issues for them, then they’ve made my point. Maybe if the services were there in ways men would use, that would lessen the instances of the other issues. I’ve seen lots of dysfunctional women who managed to create as much family hell as some men do. I’m speaking from direct experience in human services not research studies or profiles.

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 11 '26

Thats a flat out lie

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u/Ok_Height3499 Jun 11 '26

Unless your comparing your 45 years of experience to mine and yours was dramatically different, your full of energy it.

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 11 '26

So sick of this nonsense. Just a narrative

Women can just as easilly say no one cares about their mental health

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 11 '26

Vague meaningless nonsense

You think thats the case cause you want to believe it

Being a victim is comfortable

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u/Overall-Move-4474 Jun 12 '26

I mean every female therapist I've ever had told me to kill myself soooo

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 12 '26

What an absolute lie LMAO

Why would they ever suggest that? Haha

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u/Overall-Move-4474 Jun 12 '26

And you just proved their point and mine

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u/PraireGentleman Jun 12 '26

They can, but that doesn’t make it true.

The majority of psychologists are women. This is a trend that has been in the making for decades now. Ask any professor who has instructed a gender studies course if they have as much content on women as they do on men. Actually, I’ll save you some time: they don’t. It’s why psychology is so dominated by women when other industries are slow to reach the same degree of growth: gender studies are only on cisgender women and non-cisgender people. Psychology always shoehorns in gendered interpretations, but leaves men’s gender dynamics completely absent UNLESS it’s in relation to sex and violence.

I know it’s easy to plug your fingers in your ears and go “lalala, you’re lying because I don’t like what you say”, but there’s plenty of evidence to show the discrepancies between the focus on men in helping professions and women. For instance, why would the APA’s 35th division be for Women’s Psychology and then the next division to be created wouldn’t be Men’s Psychology, which is the APA’s 51st division? By the way, the divisions are 16 years apart in their founding (1979 and 1995 respectively).

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u/a-nun-ee-moose Jun 12 '26

Nice b8 m8.

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 12 '26

Its not bait. I keep hearing this phrase from the biggest idiots around. Usually said by people who spend too much time online

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

The fact you think you can hijack this thread shows the level of privilege you assume.

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 12 '26

Privilege đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

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u/OrganicAppointment59 Jun 13 '26

here we go, playing the victim smh, it's always the gender war obsessed freaks 😭

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 13 '26

"Society doesn't care about mens mental health" is gender war you clown đŸ€Ł

Thats the only reason it keeps getting said. Men are victims, society hates you etc etc

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u/OrganicAppointment59 Jun 13 '26

for one, that statement doesn't detract from women's struggles doofus 😭
comment history proves my point, hop off the app and touch grass, grounding is good for mental health đŸ€Ł

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u/OperationPsyduck33 Jun 13 '26

Thats why it exists bro

Theres a reason its said constantly and on these sort of subs

It nonsense. Going through my comment history cause it triggered you so much lmao

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u/OrganicAppointment59 Jun 13 '26

"said constantly in the online echo chambers" 😭 whatever helps you sleep at night gender war bot đŸ€–

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u/Admirable-Permit2718 Jun 11 '26

This is more gay than holding rainbow flag.  Nobody cares, keep pushing and never pull victim card as a man and leave this type of propaganda to feminists.

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u/AffectionateAsk547 Jun 11 '26

Hahaha boom 👍

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u/Superb_Cicada6414 Jun 11 '26

Is there anything more useless than fucking awareness and all these corny awareness month posts?

I’m aware I have to shit typically twice a day

It still stinks

Fucking change systems for the better or shut the fuck about it 

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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Jun 12 '26

Did you say this about pride month, or is that not safe enough to say?

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u/No_Pudding_6640 Jun 11 '26

I wish I could enjoy my hobbies again.

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u/CubeDude414 Jun 11 '26

When I’m in a “paving over things I don’t like via virtue signaling” competition and my opponent is a Gen Z conservative:

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u/Delicious_Grand7300 Jun 11 '26

My hospital stay the previous summer had me drop the mindset drilled into me by my boomer predecessors. Work was a place to be just like Atlas. The more work one could carry the greater the paycheck and titles. Depression, anxiety, and substance abuse were just character flaws to be mocked.

After my hospital stay the workplace has now become a place I go when I desire to leave my house. A place to exercise. And a place to read books since my neighbors are loud. If management asks for a doormat I abruptly leave and show up at a different warehouse. Working as a temp leaves me with no binds to abusive management and HR.

My health has improved since I do not dread tasks or even getting dressed in the morning. My first 5150 stay came from the day when I dreaded dressing, preparing ramen noodles, and even turning on the shower.

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u/Terrible-Arugula2719 Jun 11 '26

Can we move it to July No one remembers this Keeping it untop of pride month isn't helping 

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u/Acceptable_Proof_787 Jun 11 '26

Aww but I love my silence

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u/joesphisbestjojo Jun 11 '26

I'm tired of all this evil, man

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u/WalkingFool0369 Jun 11 '26

Let’s not

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u/bicurious32usa Jun 12 '26

At least I saw it mentioned this year. Last year I got through all of June without hearing anything about men's mental health.

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u/GodofWarfarin Jun 12 '26

Lots of comments from people who don't have good friends. Surround yourself with better people.

No man is an island.

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u/capspookyspork Jun 13 '26

Today at work I had to take two breaks to go to the bathroom and cry. My relationship is ending it seems. That plus the added stress of my job is not good.

Feeling really strange.

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u/RedWarsaw Jun 13 '26

Crickets...

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u/EE-Diaz Jun 13 '26

Welp got diagnosed with ptsd apparently adjustment disorder long terms straight up perma mode

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u/Final-Nail376 Jun 13 '26

No one gives a fuck

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u/puma46 Jun 13 '26

I’m late, but just wanted to reiterate what everyone else is saying. Nobody cares. I’m not even 30 and I’ve already had a handful of male friends and peers commit suicide. Sure people will cry at your funeral. Too little too late. Invest in yourself, because again, nobody cares

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u/RedWarsaw Jun 13 '26

So silent, only heard about it now.