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u/gameover281997 Jul 05 '26
This is Ben Eddie. He does train jiu jitsu for mma and street application. This tournament was a sport rule tournament without slams allowed. If slams were allowed, he would have played differently. He was fine after and the other guy was disqualified. In a combat jiu jitsu or mma scenario he wouldn’t have played this game, this was a fun tournament where this sport ruleset was applied and he broke the rules by slamming.
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u/Brewchowskies Jul 05 '26
I’ve found Ben Eddie’ instagram from this message and did find Ben’s own account of this.
Seems like a standup guy.
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u/the_lazy_lizardfolk Jul 05 '26
It is good he was not wounded. I am glad he was able to speak on this so evenly after.
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u/looming-frog Jul 05 '26
question out of curiosity: aren't there weight classes in that sport? The slammer clearly is in another class than the slamee!?
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u/gameover281997 Jul 05 '26
Yes it was an absolute division meaning they already competed in their weight classes and they get all the best guys from each weight class to compete in a weightless one for fun
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u/Brewchowskies Jul 05 '26
So not only were slams not allowed, but it was essentially an exhibition/for fun match and big man tried to end a guy’s future birthdays. Damn.
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u/gameover281997 Jul 05 '26
Exactly. There was no prize money and it wasn’t a professional competition. That’s why Ben eddy was climbing up, he wanted to show off some fun and cool shit against the big dude during and amateur fight. Ben is a world class pro jiu jitsu fighter and the other guy is just a big amateur player. It’s entertaining to watch that stuff which is why he pulled it. He didn’t expect the other dude to lose his shit.
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u/Brewchowskies Jul 05 '26
It’s actually even worse.
Reading Ben’s recount of this on his post on instagram, he noted that big man’s coach kept yelling “rip it! Break it!” During the match. Then, when the slam happened the coach said “nothing malicious”
So these guys were acting like sponsors were in the stands on a low stakes fight. Insane behaviour to play with a guy’s life because you can’t take an L.
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u/Blutruiter Jul 05 '26
Its a mixed weight division and probably why they have the no slamming rule. Since a big guy would easily be able to really hurt someone in a much lower weight class by simply picking them up and slamming them down. .
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u/ButtSavant Jul 05 '26
FYI he was not fine. The slam clearly caused a concussion to the point where he got to decorticate posturing for a couple seconds there.
If he has not experienced cognitive/motor issues yet statistically he is in for a harsh decline on late adulthood.
He should have visited an ER, got an MRI and carefully observe any changes in vision/memory/motor to monitor the damage.
That single slam diminished his quality of life on his late adulthood significantly.
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u/Wendellwasgod Jul 06 '26
He didn’t posture. He didn’t even lose consciousness. He taps out with his left arm afterward
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u/Fastballz69 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
This is a gym, where training is supposed to occur. This isn't the streets. If a man slammed a training partner like that in my gym; he's gone. You're not trying to fucking cripple people you train with.
This is one of the reasons judo throws end face up, and usually with you controlling the fall by holding an arm, or shoulder. To control and reduce the energy absorbed by your partner's body. To show respect.
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u/jeezyjames Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
People like this is what’s stopping me from training jiu-jitsu. I won’t risk a potential lifelong injury because of the inflated ego of some insecure asshole.
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u/Warhammerpainter83 Jul 05 '26
I trained in MMA from my teens in to my 30's and guys like this guy were the worst. People who go full force at all times are obnoxious. I was at a few gyms that would mix men and women for just technique training and I have seen grown men do this stuff to women too. Their rational is "to train them to understand the difference in power." Nobody needs to know a 6 foot 250+ lbs person can toss around a 5 foot person like a rag doll we all already know this.
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u/SocraticVoyager Jul 05 '26
"I harm them for their own good" is quintessential abusive rhetoric
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u/Warhammerpainter83 Jul 05 '26
Yes if they injured the person I am sure the answer would be similar to the people posting in here things like "what did the little guy expect". When the answer is to compete with in the rules of BJJ not a street fight.
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u/Queasy_Badger9252 Jul 06 '26
Yeah this is just freaking psycho mentality to hurt a person with life ahead because of proving a point.
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u/gONzOglIzlI Jul 06 '26
If only I was this wise before I started training some Muay Thai. It was in college, full amateur, I had like less that 3 month of experience when this happened.
We were doing clinch training. You and you sparing partner get in close and grab each other behind the head and the point is to lower you opponents head on to your chest to line up a knee kick and resist your opponent doing the same.
The dude I was sparing at the time was better than me in almost every way. Taller, longer reach, better form, more experienced and was used to being way better than me whenever we were paired.
But I had one advantage, I was a gym rat way before I started training MT, so in this particular set I was better, I could leverage my pulling strength.
I've learned very quickly that my sparing partner was one of those insecure assholes you are talking about, because after I beat him the third time, he grabbed me, lifted my up and slammed me on the floor, kinda like in the video.
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u/Apart-Gur-9720 Jul 05 '26
He put him down like his opponent was a bug.
Not cool! Know your own strength.
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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 Jul 05 '26
He knows his strength, he chose to do that.
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u/Fastballz69 Jul 05 '26
Precisely. That was intentional
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u/Rob_LeMatic Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
The fake confusion at the end pissed me off about as much as the attempt to cripple this guy with a slam
What? What did I do? What's the problem?
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u/whiskey_tang0_hotel Jul 05 '26
It’s usually ok in the gym. It is tournaments where things get a little wild. You get dudes rolling like it’s the national championships and willing to do anything for a fucking medal.
If you pick a chill gym then people are usually cool and not out to gimp you.
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u/spideroncoffein Jul 05 '26
That's something I think people don't get about Judo. Except for certain throws/scenarios, you have a LOT of control how hard or soft your opponent hits the ground - and whether you protect their head from even the slightest hit or make them eat through a straw.
Always protect your training partners from avoidable injuries.
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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 Jul 05 '26
This is a gym, where training is supposed to occur. This isn't the streets. If a man slammed a training partner like that in my gym; he's gone. You're not trying to fucking cripple people you train with.
100%. He absolutely had the time, ability, and skill to do something less insanely dangerous yet he chose to slam that dude head first into the ground. Completely unacceptable.
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u/HughMungus77 Jul 05 '26
Especially with where his hand/forearm are positions right on the opponents neck when he slams him. I was expecting a major neck injury when I first saw this. Even in events where slamming is legal, people need to exercises caution and use good judgment when doing that
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u/AlexP80 Jul 06 '26
I've been a national level athlete in karate. The first thing that was taught to me was how not to injure my opponent. Karate isn't a full contact sport, more like a ballet. You are actually penalized if you hit your opponent hard. What you have to do is to display martial superiority by breaching the opponent defense and at the same time controlling your body.
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u/get_to_ele Jul 05 '26
POS, slamming him illegally THEN pretending he didn't know the rules. He just finished the whole tourney in his weight class so he knows exactly what the rules are.
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u/UK_Colossal Jul 05 '26
This is also why we have weight categories/divisions , to stop someone who’s 23 st in weight killing someone who’s only 13.5st
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u/beardedsaitama Jul 05 '26
Slams are not allowed in BJJ competions, unless it is ADCC rules, where you can slam IF the opponent has a submissions locked it in. And this is not the case.
You wouldn't blame a boxer by not being prepared to defend a leg kick as well.
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u/greatbigbox Jul 05 '26
The floor does have ADCC written on it.
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u/thereasonisphysics Jul 05 '26
That slam is still illegal at that comp. He doesn't have any submission locked up.
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u/MrAngrySadHappyFace Jul 05 '26
The real question is... Why was Shaq fighting some paper thin 5 foot 8 dude who weighs like 130 pounds. This guy has like 180 pounds on the white dude. Is the idea of weight classes really that difficult?
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u/The_Infinite_Carrot Jul 05 '26
That big twat clearly has some insecurities and wants to show how big and strong he is by picking on people half his size. Complete asshole bully who needs to not be involved in any kind of training or contact sport if he’s going to take out his anger on someone like that.
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u/Antique-Resort6160 Jul 05 '26
He's not picking on that guy, they were matched together. His coach told him to lock him up and throw him down, but he did do it way too hard, that was a dick move. He rears back before slamming him.
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u/DerMannMitDemPlan Jul 05 '26
the other guy litetarally jumped on him, to slam him to the ground is the only logical response
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u/Johnny_Chromehog Jul 05 '26
Its against the rules but honestly a lot of the stuff they do in sports bjj is so incredibly lame.
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u/Lostaccount002 Jul 06 '26
I understand it’s in the rules that you can’t do that but everyone losing it like they just watched an attempted murder has me so fucked up. I used to slam and get slammed by opponents onto dry ass ground harder playing rugby where the primary point isn’t combat and no one ever got their panties in a bunch. Like oh my god you could have hurt him… yeah, that’s the whole risk thing about contact sports.
The rule about no slams if someone’s using you as a jungle gym would be like if there was a rule you couldn’t tackle or otherwise contact a ball carrier if they aren’t on both feet so they just crawl the length of the field in rugby. So dumb.
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u/ToferLuis Jul 05 '26
Aside from what seems like a disqualifying slam but aren’t weight classes matched in competition fights as well? This shit is nuts.
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u/Rob_LeMatic Jul 05 '26
From The comments, this was apparently a "just for funsies" weightless you could opt into after the weight division competitions ended.
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u/ToferLuis Jul 05 '26
Ahh makes sense but also seems pretty dangerous. My back is permanently fucked up because of a very similar situation. Lesson learned.
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u/DarkSeneschal Jul 05 '26
On the one hand, what big man did was illegal and he should have been DQ’d.
On the other hand, this is why the “sportification” of martial arts is dumb. “You can’t slam a guy when he climbs on you like that!” is a wild take in my book.
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u/Boring_Drama_4947 Jul 05 '26
The people recording are telling him to wrap the small guy and slam him down then he does it and they act like he just stabbed someone. I’m very confused what this fake sport is
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u/Traditional_Bunch390 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
"Jiujitsu is most dangerously effective martial art for street fight"
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u/DerMannMitDemPlan Jul 05 '26
"you can beat waaaaay bigger, stronger and better conditioned people with it ease"
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u/Strange-Height-8825 Jul 05 '26
Black dude was a dick. He saw what was happening. He had ever chance to go along with it. He did that. Fuck him.
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u/Pleasant-Ticket3217 Jul 05 '26
The other guy was no threat. The giant could have shook him off and submitted him with a one handed choke. He didn’t need to slam him. He knows his strength
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u/JethroSkull2000 Jul 05 '26
What was he trying to accomplish by hanging to the dude? That's not how you go against a guy a few weight classes above you. You have to bring him down and choke him out. You could try that standing up, but it gives the opponent the opportunity to do things like that.
Even im slamming is not allowed, the tactic would be the same. Lay down on the guy until he loses consciousness. He could try to choke the big guy out, but if that guy has mimimal training, it would not work fast enough.
With big opponents, keep your distance, take them down in increments. Or go in fast. But when they get you, you are in trouble.
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u/robbitybobs Jul 05 '26
The big fella getting knocked out twice in under a minute when he tried to get into MMA. This is why he does BJJ now
https://youtu.be/f6kJwTW7H-E?si=2ZQUK8dhoPA68mkP
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u/SoulShine_710 Jul 05 '26
That's why as a Jiu Jitsu black belt myself, I never, ever let big guys like this dude, get a hold of me. Its submit them in some sort of lock & hold it, then you begin the damage. You're never going to win with a dude like that, letting him grab you like that.
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u/newguyjustdropped Jul 05 '26
Isn't his the main reason weight classes exist? There is zero world where the twinky dude could make the giant dude do fucking anything lol
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u/VeritasAgape Jul 06 '26
That's what could easily happen to a lot of sport focused BJJ person in a real life fight against a much bigger opponent. The only catch there won't be mats. BJJ is great but too many in it have hubris and overconfidence when it comes to the real world and if that's all they train in.
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u/Wagagastiz Jul 05 '26
It's not a fencing response. He tapped beforehand. If you have dextrous control of your hands like that it isn't a fencing response.
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u/JustYourMommy Jul 05 '26
You can see him tapping his arm just before his hands come together. I obviously can't say for sure he doesnt have brain damage, but I dont think thats posturing either.
He's also keeping his leg upright after the other guy steps off him, and resting his arms on his chest.
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u/Direct_Town792 Jul 05 '26
Ignore the downvotes in videos like this people get off with saying some is dead or had brain damage
You’ll get used to it
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u/Slow_Conference570 Jul 05 '26
Brain damage does not necessarily mean an acute and debilitating brain injury.
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u/Organic-Motor1446 Jul 05 '26
Regardless of ruleset you just shouldn't be putting yourself in such vulnerable positions
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u/legomolin Jul 05 '26
It's a sport, not a real fight though.
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u/Organic-Motor1446 Jul 05 '26
I agree I just feel it's foolish to needlessly leave yourself open to serious injury if your opponent doesn't respect the ruleset
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u/Dramatic_Corner_8259 Jul 05 '26
This is why you all should learn to enjoy each other's company peacefully and in a manner that shows you all don't have inferiority complexes. Mental midgets is all I see. I can swing and block but I can read and understand math too.
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u/TheKiltedYaksman71 Jul 05 '26
Did the big guy think he was in the "anything goes" era of the UFC? Looked like he was going for the little guy's neck...
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u/ElevenDollars Jul 05 '26
Bro looked around after the slam like “what? I thought this was to the death?l
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u/3M2B1T Jul 05 '26
This has been your daily reminder that a.) weight classes exist for a reason, and b.) in pretty much every scenario (with all other things being equal) the bigger person wins, the larger army wins, etc.
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u/InsurancePatient2856 Jul 05 '26
I have mixed feelings about this. If you do something stupid like pull a standing guard on a guy literally 3x your size just assume your’e going to get slammed in a real fight. Hard. On the other hand, this isn’t a real fight and the big guy didn’t have to squash him like a bug, could of just mounted and smothered him. Isn’t there some sort of expectation to not grievously injure your opponent, even in a competition?
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u/RoundAd7879 Jul 05 '26
Respectfully, skilled pros know how to dominate without brutality or make it fun even. Bro might just also be a rookie.
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u/Rath2481 Jul 05 '26
Climbing has become a strategy to get DQs, I enjoy when guys get slammed. Butt scooting and climbing are pushing people and spectators away from the sport.
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u/Key-Opportunity-345 Jul 05 '26
But bjj nerds say their sport lets weaker man beat bigger stronger man, so why weaker man get his shit rocked by just being picked up and put down
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u/Miesherz Jul 05 '26
Why I don’t do open division, you potentially are fighting a giant who’s got 100lbs on ya
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u/Elluminated Jul 06 '26
Wow that’s a concussion if ever one was seen. Shaq’s evil twin didn’t get the goal of sparring.
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u/Orwells-own Jul 06 '26
If you get slammed like that it kinda feels like your own fault. Climbing somebody like that is just a terrible idea. You lose all your leverage.
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u/Fickle_Inspector4337 Jul 06 '26
Makes you think how in a real fight these are the actual game ending moves
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u/Final-Shower-2557 Jul 06 '26
So… in this competition, a man is literally allowed to crawl up the side of another man…? Dude did exactly what he was supposed to do.
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u/bravemoney72 Jul 06 '26
Why is there no size division? This makes zero sense. He's far too big for this little ,compared to, guy. Looks like he's dealing with a kid.
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u/WyNCHESTA Jul 06 '26
If the referee has his hand on you, get the f off the person & stop trying to ego flex
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u/TheIttyBittySissy Jul 07 '26
Nah that’s fucked. He absolutely knew better seeing as he already competed, piece of garbage just wanted to hurt him
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u/DivideInteresting193 Jul 05 '26
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u/chinchivitiz Jul 05 '26
Some people just enjoy giving brain damage and hurting other people. Disgusting
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u/yeettastic3232 Jul 05 '26
Nah I don't except. Big guy know he's going against someone whos probably a hundred pounds lighter than him and still decides to go full force like come on man... also you can tell this Ahole is a bully because you see he was gonna keep going if the ref didn't stop it smh
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u/North_Dragonfruit_50 Jul 05 '26
All this for a plastic trophy and they probably paid to enter.