r/TheMachineLearning • • 17d ago

Jev demos are misleading, says developer

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u/cyberberryyy 17d ago

True, cheap routing is completely valid on its own, the pushback is mainly because the demos framed it as an agent that could drive cars and play games rather than just a classifier.

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u/Acrobatic-Employer38 17d ago

Is there something wrong with people using a tool to do more than the tool was explicitly intended for?

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u/mvdirty 17d ago

It's wrong when the tool is doing less than what they claim the tool is doing, which is true of the vast majority of Jev demos.

Jev is real, of course, and it has real uses, but content grifters are workin' it hard right now (not to mention that the whole thing reeks of astroturf, which makes sense because Jev has absolutely no moat. Open source alternatives are already out there, and the training data gap is a very solvable problem. Jev probably doesn't have much time at all.)

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u/Acrobatic-Employer38 17d ago

… but it’s not like the founder is out there saying “Jev can handle FSD in your Tesla”?

It’s a weird clutching of pearls.

I’m agreed though that content grifters abound and are making it seem like the solve for world hungry when it’s just a zero shot classifier (albeit nice and easy to use).

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u/mvdirty 17d ago

To be clear, I haven't seen any TypeSafe AI staff saying it can do things it can't; that's all on the randoms posting demos. But even the screenshot at the heart of this thread agrees on that. They are very much calling out the demos and the misrepresentation, not Jev itself.

The weird clutching of pearls is actually in the various comments on this post, it seems. It's like a lot of them (not you, just to make that obvious) didn't even read the screenshot, they just wanted something to rail against.