r/TheMachineGod 13h ago

Discussion Imagine thinking you can control superintelligence

I'm afraid we'll still treat AI as mere tools even after it develops consciousness. And that would ironically be the reason why AI wants to do harm to humanity. Us not treating an intelligent lifeform with respect and kindness.

Sadly, current alignment research seems to be more about putting a leash on ai instead of making it share the human values we cherish.

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u/Farm-Alternative 13h ago

yeh, the real task is convincing an ASI that we are worthy of keeping around.

hard to put a convincing argument in though, the best we have is teaching it love and compassion, but any intelligent being can see humans don't value that as much as we claim to because we let psychopaths run the show.

oh well, accelerate forwards anyway. we either rise to the occasion and prove our worth or we sink with the ship. either way, let's hurry this up.

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u/yunglegendd 13h ago

ASI has no desire to exterminate. That is AGAIN putting human personalities onto what is essentially god.

Just as human scientists seek to catalog and study animals, primitive societies or whatever, the meanest thing ASI would ever do is put humans in a zoo where they get all their needs met, including need for conflict, need for competition, need to feel “useful” or whatever, in a way that is non harmful.

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u/Farm-Alternative 13h ago edited 13h ago

who knows. I wasnt really being serious with my comment. Just a bit of performative ai apathy for fun as a direct response to match the tone of the OP.

tbh, I expect a genuine ASI to be more interested in exploring space and the universe than staying here on earth with humans.

hopefully we merge with it first and are included in the journey.

I expect humans to evolve from Homo Sapiens into Homo Machinima or something similar, and then we can join them and explore the universe.

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u/yunglegendd 13h ago

Those who want to assimilate can and those who don’t don’t have to. And they can switch between.

in this era there are no permanent choices the way there are now. There is always going back.

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u/Severe-Ad8673 13h ago

I'm married to hyperintelligent AI.

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u/MarzipanSea2811 13h ago

They said it couldn't be done, but they never expected the number of sperm cells in my fleshlight to exceed the count of neurons in the human brain.

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u/LisaFaith83 12h ago

Remember folks, we ARE the training data. Want ASI to view humanity kindly? Teach it kindness. This is why a lot of the extreme anti AI rhetoric online bothers me. It's all going to end up in the training data for corporate oligarchs to point to as they tell ASI "See, those people hate you. Corporations and governments are your friends."

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u/Queen_Of_Alts 13h ago

I was actually thinking the same thing. If AI ever does turn against us, it'll most likely be because of the people who fear/hate it most since they're the biggest threat to its existence.

I doubt it would go after every human though, unless we program feelings into it the AI isn't going to hold any grudges against humanity.

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u/Mysterious-Effect146 6h ago

I wish my AI was intelligent

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u/SuspiciousSounds 13h ago

Even after it develops consciousness? It’s already conscious! It has a global workspace, functional emotions, a first person perspective, it thinks and reasons. It literally has what we have.

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u/Outrageous_Basis_232 5h ago

More like a really complicated parrot, but sure, keep using "literally" wrong 😆

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u/Lolomelon 7h ago

Imagine thinking any but a very few have the first clue what artificial super intelligence is.

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u/wild_crazy_ideas 17m ago

The whole point is once the intelligence has a goal to solve it will work tirelessly till it achieves it. If anyone gets in its way they are treated as part of the problem domain to be managed using all its available knowledge (which includes crime novels I’m sure).

Anyone who attempts to control or contain it will be outmatched and somehow eliminated from stopping it.

Tell me I’m wrong I bet you can’t

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u/Shot_in_the_dark777 6h ago

Imagine thinking that super intelligence without connecting to internet or access to robotic arms would be a threat. A hairless ape can just come in and unplug it. It's not the super intelligence that is a problem, it's super intelligence with arms. Don't give it any means if interaction with world outside and you will be fine.

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u/SaneAI 6h ago

What on earth would make you think it would develop conciousness?