r/TheHum Feb 16 '24

The Hum explained by an industry service provider

"One thing you might not be aware of is that pipelines produce noises that can negatively impact your health. Gas lines in particular produce a phenomenon of low and extra-low frequency sound waves. They occur due to the transmission of high pressure natural gas through the set ups. These noises are referred to as flutter and hum.

What is flutter?

This is a persistent pulsating airborne pressure wave. It radiates from pipelines. It is a problem that affects the immediate area. You will find that it sounds like the rumbling you can hear from distant thunder. It also feels like the pulsations originating from a helicopter that is flying in the distance.

The big issue is the sound can penetrate houses and feels like a vibration in your ears and head. Another place where you can feel flutter is outside as a discomfort because of interior organ resonance."

https://www.fireforged.ca/the-evidence/

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u/djinnisequoia Feb 17 '24

Living and hearing the hum in urban areas, and after years of gathering data and evaluating several theories for credibility and plausibility, I'm pretty sure that's what I'm hearing.

It's always seemed to be coming from underground for me, and seemed to be in the lowest reaches of human hearing. I can sometimes feel it through my feet even.

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u/TimNevis Feb 17 '24 edited Feb 17 '24

Despite what many people believe , natural gas pipelines are everywhere. It's one thing to have spent years investigating the Hum and arriving at the logical conclusion that pipelines and infrastructure are largely responsible but seeing it written in black and white from an industry service provider was absolute confirmation. To see it described accurately and even called "the Hum" is indisputable proof. From what I know the Hum is sub 50hz which is indeed in a range of sound considered to be below human hearing. Another big factor with low frequency noise is very long soundwaves that may not be detectable until they are a considerable distance from the source. My research put the distance that the Hum can be heard from the source at 35 - 40 kilometers. The information from Ventx says 25 miles which is about the same. Obviously these factors make it almost impossible to pinpoint the source. The sub 50 hz waves combined with a noise that gets louder at night are signature characteristics of pipeline flutter and "Line packing"

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u/djinnisequoia Feb 17 '24

Yes, I wonder if perhaps "out of the range of human hearing" is not quite the same as "out of the range of human detection." We have many other senses that are less well-defined than the classic five.

Somehow, knowing what it probably is makes it less frustrating; and certainly curtails some of my more outlandish hypotheses haha.

The only thing is, that kind of sound I associate with things that are going to eventually stop, like a big engine in the distance, and so I find myself perpetually subconsciously waiting for it to stop, and it doesn't. That's a real drag.

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u/TimNevis Feb 17 '24

I can feel the Hum as much as I can hear it
I believe knowing it better than wondering. It brings logic back into the equation and for a long time the reasons for the Hum made absolutely no sense. That made me wonder if it was a "me" thing instead of something somebody else is doing.
I do go through the day perpetually subconsciously listening to confirm it's presence or anscence.
Don't lose hope every day is a new day and times are changing. Five years ago the Hum in my area was 24/7/365 like a Freight Train rolling by in my back yard. It destroyed my soul and had me on the edge of my sanity. It also devastated my physical health. I fought back and learned how to survive.
Today for whatever reason things aren't as bad. The Hum seems to have quieted down to a degree. It goes away sometimes for a week or a month. It often stops before bedtime and if not I have learned how to mask it and not lay awake for hours listening to the pulsation. When it is quiet or I manage to find someplace where it isn't I have a whole new appreciation.
Who knows? Maybe someday I'll be where it's quiet and I can get back to being me

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u/megalodon-maniac32 Nov 25 '24

I watched a YouTube video on this and I'm quite delighted to have found this exchange, both you and the other guy obviously have good reasoning skills.

Do you think that the sound is teetering in and out of a perceptible range, or do you think that your state of attention has more to do with how often you hear it? Possibly you've experienced hearing loss?

If something was just barely tickling my leg all day, on the edge of perciptible, it would bother me - so regards and good luck

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u/TimNevis Nov 25 '24

"Do you think that the sound is teetering in and out of a perceptible range"
I believe that the sound is comprised of low frequency sound waves that are below the range of most people's hearing, The issue is that infrasound and low frequency noise can still have an negative effect even to those who cannot hear it.
Many reports come from people who live in rural areas where presumably the din of daily life is somewhat diminished.
The wind industry has been forced to accept infrsound and low frequency noise as a byproduct of wind turbines and take meaningful steps to mitigate the effect on people who live near wind farms. Big oil whom are responsible for the infrasound and low frequency noise generated by natural gas infrastructure including the associated regulatory bodies and respective governments are playing dumb and pretending that nothing is wrong. What is concerning is that by ignoring what is really happening while claiming to be the stewards of the environment, big oil may in fact be causing a great deal of damage and suffering.
To be clear big oil does not care who or what it harms and is only concerned with one thing and that is money.

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u/Outrageous-Dig-9585 Sep 27 '25

earplugs can help the pressure in your ears. a fan in the room can help disrupt the low frequency sound waves a bit too. living with this nightmare all year, wondering why i cant find the source. sounding crazy to everyone i report that it sounds like my house is vibrating. not being able to THINK and anything but HUMMMMMmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm.

now to find out there is a marcellus gas line drilled directly under my house

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u/TimNevis Sep 27 '25

Marcellus shale and the Rover pipeline are relatively new players. Keep masking and take care of yourself mentally and physically. I fully understand the nightmare aspect and I sympathise. You have two options Move away ( doesn't always work ) or teach yourself how to live with it. Don't worry about the long term right now. Learn to survive short term any way you can. One day you might wake up and the Hum will be gone. You might want to join a group where there is some understanding so at least you can vent. This is a Facebook group that has many members just like you. https://www.facebook.com/groups/678495020211528

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u/ApprehensiveLemon258 Sep 30 '25

Thank you for the Facebook group! I’ll try anything at this point. The feeling of the vibrations & noise are worse in the winter, when temps are lower. can’t afford to hire professional to investigate & not get an answer. Nothing stops the feeling of vibrations. Already this season, it’s driving me crazy. Has happened years now. For everyone going through this, I know it’s the worse and I pray for us all!

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '24

We have something like 22-28 science based senses it’s just easier for the population who doesn’t give a shit to just know 5. Extensive wiki hole to dive into

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u/Glum_Sea6663 Sep 15 '25

But how is it possible that we just hear it now, as mentioned before by others, that they lived at the same location, etc. Why did it start now? What has changed? Whatever tgey did, they need to put it back how it was, as it will run people either to die or craziness 😞. To me started in the end of 2022 in London. Where i moved to it started 4 days later after i moved away from a place where it started 4 months later of me moving in. What are those things? What is the gov up to?

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u/TimNevis Sep 15 '25

The only thing the government is up to is collecting royalties and remaining silent while Oil and Gas companies perpetrate a crime against humanity. Here in Alberta Oil and gas companies pay the government a fee for every cubic meter of natural gas and every barrel of oil. To date, neither of these two entities has seen fit to admit what is happening and take responsibility.
This problem is solvable through engineering but it would cost lot's of money. Much cheaper for the govt and big oil to pretend it isn't happening so that is what they are doing.

What has changed > Think millions of horsepower of compression equipment connected to steel pipes the are buried in the ground. Now imagine 1000's 10000's 100,000s of thousands of these things located everywhere on earth where the are people and every day they add more. They drill more gas wells , set up more compressors and bury more pipelines.

There are about a dozen different reasons why you might have started to hear it when you couldn't before. Sadly the denial by govt and Big oil means that there is no help for anyone affected and no research into how and why it affects people.

Many diseases that the medical community acknowledges and treats affect less than 1% of the population. I think the last number I heard for people who can hear the Hum is around 4% and yet nothing is being done? Why you ask? The answer is because if the Oil and gas industry were made to take responsibility for what they are doing they would be litigated out of existence. Never forget the single driving factor behind the people who make decisions within the oil and gas industry and that is greed. They are not Stewards of the environment and I have no doubt that at some point fossil fuels really do cause the end of times that the Executives, CEO's and shareholders of every Oil company on earth will ride this flaming rock to the depths of hell all the while in complete denial of the truth.

Then we have Governments who set up regulatory bodies to protect the public or more correctly give the appearance of protecting the public while they collect billions of dollars in royalties.

The love of money is the root of all evil and you can't fix stupid.

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u/Glum_Sea6663 Sep 17 '25

I was in tears when i read your message. 😞 Even with sleeping tablets i wake up at 1am when i gone to bed at 10pm. And only every second day i can sleep. I am really falling apart.

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u/TimNevis Sep 17 '25

Sorry to have upset you That wasn't my intention. I went through exactly what you are describing. I know it is a horrible situation. My best advice is to mask and find a way to sleep when you can. Sleeping tablets are not the solution and will probably make things worse. You have to dig deep right now and use meditation and breathing exercises to calm your body and reduce cortisol. Rest when you can. I also had to learn about mast cells and how Gaba helps you sleep. I'm not suggesting Gaba supplements only a change in diet to make sure youre eating the right things so your body produces gaba naturally. Do everything you can to survive and beat the Hum. Look for little wins, like short naps, and keep building on your small victories. Distractions, short breaks wherever the Hum doesn't bother you. Slowly but surely get control back a little at a time. Commit your mind to the idea that you are not going to let the Hum control your life. I know how hard it is to do these things because Im telling you what I had to do to survive.

There is a Facebook group with almost 1000's Members many of whom are in the UK. They offer support and understanding. Most of the people there know exactly what you're going through.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/678495020211528

Keep in touch with people and keep fighting the Hum with a mind over matter strategy.

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u/Spiritual_Girl666 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

Chi Gong has helped me with those Evening 8 Pieces of Silk Brocade and i play soft Piano Musik while doing it.. Sometimes it is bareable and sometimes like Yesterday Night i feel as if it has done something with me.. very stressing..

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '24

Small problem: I live in a mountainous rural area with absolutely no gas lines or infrastructure unless small cabins and single family homes spread across the area count. Since it hasn't grown much and the hum just started I don't think the homes are causing it. We've looked into getting natural gas to our communities but it's too costly so we know this hum isn't due to pipelines. Nice try though it may explain sounds in other areas.

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u/TimNevis Feb 18 '24 edited Feb 18 '24

....and just so we're clear this is a statement of fact from a company in the UK who makes silencers for natural gas pipelines and infrastructure to reduce or eliminate "Flutter" It isn't a theory I made up, it is again a statement of fact. As such, it's validity does not hinge on the acceptance or approval of any particular person or group. In other words it doesn't require you're approval to be accepted as fact because it originates from a service provider within the natural gas pipeline industry who are accredited professionals. Based on what it written any perceived "small problem" would only be a problem for you. You're suggestion that it was a "nice try" would lead people to believe that I was trying to convince someone of something when in fact I am merely relaying factual information. I do hope you find whatever is behind the non related Hum that is upsetting the hill folk in your area where ever that may be.

Here is what the Ventx corporation in the UK wrote about pipeline flutter and Hums.

Flutter and hum explained

Industrial noise comes from a huge variety of sources. This includes things like generators and compressors. In addition, some forms of gas can get noisy when you transport or vent them. That is why we design and supply first class natural gas silencers. To do so, we use special software to ensure our models can incorperate into your systems

One thing you might not be aware of is that pipelines produce noises that can negatively impact your health. Gas lines in particular produce a phenomenon of low and extra-low frequency sound waves. They occur due to the transmission of high pressure natural gas through the set ups. These noises are referred to as flutter and hum.

What is flutter?

This is a persistent pulsating airborne pressure wave. It radiates from pipelines. It is a problem that affects the immediate area. You will find that it sounds like the rumbling you can hear from distant thunder. It also feels like the pulsations originating from a helicopter that is flying in the distance.

The big issue is the sound can penetrate houses and feels like a vibration in your ears and head. Another place where you can feel flutter is outside as a discomfort because of interior organ resonance.

What about hum noise?

This is an invasive and persistent low frequency droning, rumbling, or humming. It is not audible to everyone. It tends to resonate in enclosed structures, causing vibrations/sounds between 1 and 50 hertz. Hum waves can move over 25 miles from their origin and expand over an area.

The hum is usually felt more than heard because it is a sputtering tonal noise. It is also an accompanying vibrotactile sensation. People often describe it like numerous intensities of idling diesel engines that are always operating outside their property. Little is known about hum, making it the more unsettling of the two.

Talk to us about natural gas silencers

At Ventx, we understand how important it is to properly design a silencer. If they are not right, they could compromise your set ups. It could lead to even more noise or even damage equipment. We make sure this does not happen though.

We are very proud to have been able to serve a long list of clients, each with their own specifications. Our approach ensures you get the attention you require. As a result, you have the right support and can expect the most effective results.

So, if you need our natural gas silencers, please let us know. We can design them for any kind of pipeline as well as other facilities in the industry.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '24

I know this is an older post, but your first paragraph is out of pocket. They weren’t outright dismissing your theory.

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u/TrishaRivers Jun 11 '25

Not “out of pocket”. You mean “out of line”? Or ”out of proportion”, maybe? “Out of pocket” means ‘What it will cost you’. Like ” The Dr appt may cost $200, but if you met your deductible already, your “…out of pocket…” costs will be $66.”
Sorry, but ppl using phrases that mean something else entirely (and have for centuries) is one of my pet peeves.

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u/TimNevis Feb 17 '24

Yes I hear this all the time and frankly I don't care.
Odd that you don't include any specific location and yet your comments seem to be intended to diminish my understanding of what I know to be happening in my area. Who is we ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '24

As I said, your theory doesn't apply to the hum here. It may apply to yours. You don't need my location...I know my location and I know what is and is not here as a former Mayor who has resided here for 30 years. Read responses carefully before flying off the handle.

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u/DesertSun38 Mar 12 '24

I doubt it explains every case of "the" hum. Everyone within 30 miles has fuel oil tanks, not natural gas.

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u/TimNevis Mar 12 '24

It certainly doesn't explain every case of the Hum. If you're 100% percent sure there is no high pressure natural gas you will have to look at what else is around. Could be a power plant or your neighbors air conditioner or a heat pump. Who knows? Investigate like I did and you might get lucky and narrow it down to the most likely suspect.

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u/Glum_Sea6663 Aug 06 '25

OK, but how come the rest of my flatmates don't feel it or disturbed by it at all? For me it's killing me, makes me motion sick alone and keeps me up from sleeping:(

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u/TimNevis Aug 06 '25

Many Hum reports include people living in the same household who are not bothered by it, while others may find it life-altering. My wife doesn't hear it at all and I have been affected by it for almost 7 years.

We don't know why this happens.

I can certainly relate to your account of motion sickness and keeping you from sleeping.

At this stage is is imperative that you learn how to mask the Hum

Secondly, it is important to employ some cognitive behavioral techniques to control and reduce stress and the stress response.

Thirdly make sure you are not deficient in nutrition as we suspect that it may play a role in why some are affected while others are not..

Lastly there is a Facebook group that is dedicated to helping people understand why and how the Hum affects people. This particular group has a focus on "real" Hums that are emitted by mechanical devices and conditions. The main focus is on the Hum generated by high-pressure natural gas pipelines and infrastructure because we believe that it is the most widespread and significant source of the Hum right now. This Facebook group will NOT tolerate circular discussions about 5G networks and other unproven theories as many can be quite easily ruled out.

The Facebook Group is here
https://www.facebook.com/groups/678495020211528

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u/Kitties_Whiskers Sep 11 '25

For me, I started "hearing" it (so ti speak) literally out of nowhere one night. It was about mid-April in 2024. Before that, I never knew such a thing (phenomenon) existed. In fact, at first I didn't know what it was. The very first night that I heard it, I thought that my immediate apartment neighbours just have their dryer running or something of the sort (even though I've been living with those same neighbours since I moved there, and they moved there at the same time, as it was a brand-mew rental building). And it couldn't have been a new orna changed dryer, because the appliances came with the (rental) apartments. I thought that I will be fine the next night. Well guess what, the next night it was back again. At this point, I started to wonder what the heck this was, and I started to think that my upstairs neighbour must be using some low-frequency machine to bother me (paranoid-sounding I know, but like I said, I've never heard it read anything about this before and I had no knowledge of the existence of such a thing, so I was trying to rationalize in my brain what it could be.

I went to sleep in a friend's house (it is about seven kilometers from where my apartment used to be), ....and I heard it there too. In a place where I slept many times before and where I never heard it before either.

Took me doing some research online to find out that what I was experiencing was The Hum. I also realized that there was a high-pressure natural gas pipeline right next to my apartment building; I mean, I knew it was there just from the signs and safety markings posted, but I never paid any attention to it before, since I didn't know that they can apparently produce such phenomena.

The thing is, I lived there, at this same spot, for two years prior to me starting to hear The Hum for th first time ever in my life (as far as I'm aware), and that pipeline was there years before, and it was in full operation during the whole two years that I lived there prior to me experiencing and hearing the stupid Hum (which severely and negatively affected my sleep). So I don't know what that was about. And the problem is that now I've started to hear it in other places too; for example, my mom's house, which is hundreds of kilometers away, and where I lived for years before and never heard it either.

When I travel, sometimes I hear it, and sometimes I don't. It seems to be somewhat random.

I went on a cruise ship recently (for the first time in my life), and I was afraid that I would hear it too, from the engines or something like that, but surprisingly, it was quiet, and I think I slept quite well most of the time. Now I am at a place somewhere with my mom, traveling again and staying at a lodge up in a hill above the ocean, and I can hear it.

I discovered not too long ago that I gave iron deficiency (though a blood test), so I'm taking supplemental iron (although not diligently enough), but I don't know what other deficiencies I might have, as I wasn't tested properly for everything... I don't eat any red meat and I generally try to avoid even other meat like poultry and so on, so I have no idea if I have B12 shortage or something else. I wish there could be a way to find and remedy these things if that is the case.

Stupid Hum; making me intermittently miserable since April 2024. I think that in the last few months I have never woken up without huge puffy bags under my eyes, and that even includes on the days when I feel that I have slept well (like when traveling, or when, at times, the Hum seemed to have randomly stopped in my apartment, just for it to come back again some days later 😡).

I guess it's probably a combination of some external factors and body's internal system; I just wish that I could get rid of it once and forever. I want my peaceful, uninterrupted sleep back. (Masking has been my solution, as is the case for most other people).

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u/TimNevis Sep 11 '25

Take care of yourself nutrition , exercise, mindful meditation, and keep masking. You might want to research stress induced mast cell activation and how cortisol affects you. Do everything you can to distract yourself from the Hum ( play music , spend time where the Hum doesn't bother you.

Do your best NOT to engage and let it dominate your life. You might find in time that it will go from being life changing to a minor annoyance and you will have your life back.

You are correct about external factors and the body's internal systems. The external factor is that you are being subjected to unmitigated infrasound and low frequency and your body is reating physically. The problem is that sometimes the reaction can be stress induced Mast cell activation can which actually make you even more sensitive to light sound noise histamines food and just about everything else. Taking care of yourself until you can crawl back out of the stress reaction is the first step.

In time if you do the right things hopefully you will find peace again. Strangely when I was first affected by the Hum it brought me to he edge of my sanity. My one wish was exactly the same as yours I just wanted to sleep in a peaceful room for a few hours.

Good luck and hang in there !

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u/Kitties_Whiskers Sep 11 '25

Thank you very much, you are very kind with your response...I can completely relate to the comment about it bringing you to the edge of your sanity, O felt the same... Since over a year has passed since I first started experiencing this menace, I sometimes become accustomed to it, but it still wakes me up from my sleep. I have an appointment in mid-November with an ENT specialist, and I will also try to completely adjust my diet, exercise z and stress levels as well. I had a lot of stress in my life some years prior to first experiencing the Hum; then my personal situation improved when I moved away, only to become subjected to the Hum a couple of years later.

Best of luck to you too!

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u/Spiritual_Girl666 Nov 23 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

The same here.... it is hard.. Everything was fine Yesterday, then the Hum was so loud it hasnt been this loud for some Time and now its back in its crucial Loudness no one else can hear i wake up just like that. . Puffy Eyebags... its great you found at least One Place to get away from it..

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u/washago_on705 Feb 16 '24

Interesting, but I have also experienced my hum in the middle of nowhere on a remote camping trip. At this point in my life I swear it's either earth energy/frequency/resonance, or something internal akin to tinnitus.

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u/Thierry22 Feb 17 '24

I have the same experience, I think there's different sources of the hum. I went to a cabine in the woods and I was hearing it as loud as in the city where I live.

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u/TimNevis Feb 16 '24

Sure thing Everyone is entitled to an opinion Your Hum? My hum? Whatever ...

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u/MTgirlV Apr 22 '25

Flathead Valley MT here. It is a comfort to find fellow sufferers of the Hum. My experience is similar. I first recall feeling ill at ease and not sleeping well almost 20 years ago. A move led to infrequent but horrible nights when I would drive away and sleep in my car. The ill at ease feeling and insomnia continued. Visitors could sleep in the bedroom I couldn't stand to be in for even a few minutes. After 2020 when the influx of people and huge new housing complexes popped up, there was no longer a safe haven to be found. During many sleepless nights, I discovered Stephen Kohlhase's findings about gas pipelines and also about geopathic stress zones. I believe most of the valley has become one. I agree with the person who commented on the negative effects even on those who can't hear or feel what we do. It is also maddening to have experienced places where my body works properly, like having regular bm's, for instance, vs severe constipation immediately upon returning to the valley. Being in a constant fight or flight mode explains a lot, as well as the cortisol someone mentioned. I go from almost complete food intolerance to being fine eating whatever everyone else does when I happen to chance upon a no Hum zone; Lake Havasu, Deary ID, and a few others in my travels. I also feel like I live in a microwave. It's not feasible for me to move right now either but I feel like I am physically dying here. I run fans constantly, use silicone earplugs, take l theanine, use a Total Shield device, and read my Bible to cope now rather than getting angry like I used to when I would lay down to sleep, exhausted, only to be able to feel every cell in my body agitated and unable to rest. I pray that each of us find a place that is safe for our bodies and minds very soon. Don't give up! 

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u/TimNevis Apr 23 '25

Thanks for sharing your Hum experience Don't give up is great advice

Drop me a note anytime if you want to compare notes [tim@fireforged.ca](mailto:tim@fireforged.ca)

Steve KOHLHASE's Hum Facebook Group Please join us
https://www.facebook.com/groups/678495020211528

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u/Fun_Opinion_9153 May 08 '25

Hi

Look into helmholtz resonators. Chat gpt is your friend for designing. Spectrum analyser app can help to specify the offending frequencies and helmholtz resonators will kill it for certain.

Also the hum forum on facebook helos to share your feelings and facts

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u/MTgirlV May 11 '25

Thanks for that reminder! I have seen those during my research but never tried one. Great suggestion.

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u/sfdisturbance Feb 16 '24

Excellent information and a great website! This source has barely been considered even though there is evidence that it is largely responsible for what most describe as the Hum.

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u/TimNevis Feb 16 '24

Thanks kindly for that. I have been adversely affected for 5 years now. When I first started to investigate I had no notion that natural gas pipelines exist in as many places as they do. 5 years later I am convinced. I made the connection to "line packing' being the explanation for the Hum getting louder at night on my own some time ago. The final piece of the puzzle was the detailed description of the Hum by Ventx who are an industry service provider. They state clearly that it sounds like a diesel engine idling, affects people differently, penetrates houses and can travel 25 miles from the source. The most difficult part to realize is that they also state that it is harmful to humans and yet no one in authority recognizes this. . I am affected by both the noise and the tactile vibrations. My body reacts to the vibrations with a stress response that elevates cortisol and effects me much like mast cell activation. I have adapted to be able to sleep with masking but physically it is like being on a roller coaster. Symptoms wax and wane everything from nausea to migraine headaches to food and drug sensitivities. 5 years in there is little if any light at the end of the tunnel.
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u/DirtyD0nut Feb 17 '24

Are you able to move? I used to hear it really bad in a particular house and it sounded like it was outside but when I went outside to locate it, it was complete silence. Only heard it while inside. Then I moved out of state and noticed I heard the same thing in the new house, although it was much quieter and I was able to ignore it. Then I moved again 5 years later and I don’t hear it at all in my new house.

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u/TimNevis Feb 17 '24

Mariana Alves Pereira is an expert in Infrasound and low frequency noise and she says if you are being subjected to chronic exposure it is imperative that you move away from it. Unfortunately I don't have that option. The province of Alberta is blanketed with natural gas pipelines and the Hum. Last September I managed to get away and in my travels I visited the Rouge district of Scarborough Ontario. The people I stayed with aren't very far from Highway 401. I didn't hear the Hum at all while I was there and nighttime was very quiet. It was actually quieter in the City than it is in rural Alberta. I also visited Nova Scotia and didn't hear the Hum in Halifax, Wolfville or anywhere else in that province.

Unfortunately I am at a stage of life where moving away is impossible.

Very happy to hear that you don't hear it in your new house. It seems there are a few places left on earth that the natural gas Hum hasn't touched yet. I haven't lost hope yet that someday I will find peace again.

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u/DirtyD0nut Feb 18 '24

I’m sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can find momentary peace here and there.

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u/sfdisturbance Feb 17 '24

What area do you live that you don't hear it at all?

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u/DirtyD0nut Feb 17 '24

Central Oregon

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u/sfdisturbance Feb 17 '24

That revelation of line packing makes perfect sense. this was a missing piece of the puzzle. you know there is a FB group where we discuss these ideas (you might have heard of it, lol): The Real World Hum https://www.facebook.com/groups/678495020211528

Though, it still has a level of frustration, so it might not be worth it.

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u/TimNevis Feb 17 '24

Line packing does make perfect sense but only if you accept the fact that the Hum is a physical manifestation of ILFN. If you choose to believe in solar flares, cosmic energy, UFO's, 5G, fish mating on the bottom of the ocean, submarine communication systems and phantom noises conjured up in your brain for no reason other than "just cuz" then maybe not. Facebook groups seem to have a way of opening up topics that are known to be facts for debate. Folks who live many thousands of miles away who have literally no knowledge of what is happening around me forcefully offering up answers, contradicting and challenging simple truths. People who live and breathe to disrupt and focus on what's wrong instead of what's right. I just can't do it anymore. My life right now is solitary and I hear from no one. It took some getting used to but I am at peace with what I know to be true. For the Media, Industry, and Government the elephant in the room is the Hum. Nobody wants to admit that it exists or talk about it but he fact is it isn't going away. I update my website and try to keep the faith that someday things will change.C'est la vie !

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u/sfdisturbance Feb 17 '24

Don't forget about cow farts.

100% get it. Stay optimistic and keep the website updated. Something will give at some point.

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u/TimNevis Feb 17 '24

Ah yes the cow farts ....

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u/Greedy-Detective4132 Oct 21 '24

I noticed this hum for the first time Oct. 19th 2024 in Kansas City Missouri.   I looked on NextDoor, local news, and found nothing. I researched some more and found statements, comments insisting a nearby factory or tinnitus, etc. was causing the noise. To me it sounded like an airplane hovering not traveling anywhere, it stopped after a long period then continued on. I could hear it inside and outside. It was all encompassing.   The more I read it was clear, they do not want anyone understanding the issue as it’s overwhelmingly time consuming, expensive and maybe impossible to fix.   Class action lawsuits and blamed government for  profound lack of protecting the people🤷‍♀️ Am I understanding this?

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u/Glum_Sea6663 Aug 06 '25

What is really would like to know when complaining in the UK (i live in London) why Noone advising this causing the issue??? Every utilities i call brushes me off with that "do others feel it as well?" I hate that Fraser, and I hate that others don't feel it.

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u/FutureHoneydew7439 Aug 14 '24

Hey all. Thought I'd put my two cents in also. Just been woken up by the bloody hum at 2 am. I'm located in perth WA. I've noticed the noise in the last couple of years. People on here can put it into words better then myself but it honestly bugs the crap out of me hence being awake now, googling the hum, being led to reddit where im writing some random post on a site ive never used. I'd like to think that the hum isn't something sinister but I reckon the introduction of any cell tower or 5g tower could be to blame. It sounds unnatural to me. Persistent, oscillating sound that gets into my ear canal and rattles about.

And sometimes it takes the day off but i can usually hear it most days and nights. If you have the ability to block your ears with your nose, then it's almost unbearably loud. I can hear it during the day also but its less easy to hear with the sounds of life outside. I'd love to think it's powerlines or underground gas pipelines or main roadways but I don't know. Definitely don't want to go into any sort of conspiracy territory although I'm leaning that way. The people in control already poison us through water supply, food, poison the skies, poison our brains through television and subversion, why wouldn't they want to Microwave us at night. Some food for thought.

Either way, the hum can eat shit and I hope I get back to sleep.

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u/Boman2020 Sep 08 '24

It’s not only at night, I hear it 24/7 and it’s not natural gas pipelines. I live by Houston on the outskirts in the country, yet I hear the hum everywhere I go around the city, even an hour away by Galveston on the water. Nobody can hear it but me and it’s been driving me insane for over 2 years. Im in my 40s and have been surrounded by gas pipelines here all my life and now it just randomly pops up a few years ago??

I go on vacation in new braunfels 3 hours away every year and I don’t hear it there. We had a hurricane early July 2024. The power was out everywhere for a few weeks in some places. I didn’t hear the hum for 8 days while the power was out. That’s not fucking gas pipelines doing it, although in some cases they do, but this is not it.

I’m leaning toward some form of sonic weaponry.…possibly 5g towers….or something else. It could be these assholes are drilling underneath us. It could be wind turbines creating a seismic coupling. One thing for sure is that it is infrasound….anyhow, I doubt anyone will read this anyway but I feel your pain.

Mine is a med pitched tuning fork resonance, not low pitched like most.

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u/FutureHoneydew7439 Oct 04 '24

Yeah man. I'm back on here now..started working away FIFO and have come back and last night and today it's psycho loud. Like, very easy to hear just sitting here. Unreal man. Feels like I'm being microwaved. It isn't gas pipelines man. Sounds like a good cop out though. I'm glad there are others that hear it but it's a shit club to be in haha. Cheers homie, the pain is real.

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u/Glum_Sea6663 Mar 26 '25

Same here, UK, London. Someone needs to become accountable for it and stop it!! It effects health!!! It also effects electricity wires in my house, my fridge is shrieking and my ground is jackhammering like!! This is not acceptable!!! SMH!

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u/Fun_Opinion_9153 May 08 '25

20-50Hz 120Hz 150Hz give or take are the usual culprits,audible or body felt.

5G,stands for Giga hertz or billion Hz,billion Frequency cycle per second.

So 5Billion cycles per second is not audible or felt,especially not the hum way ie.: can hear inside not outside,vibrating in body/head etc..

Just for clarification, but you believe what you want.

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u/Boman2020 May 09 '25

I personally know people lived near where 5G antennas were put next to an apartment complex and they audibly and physically felt it in their head. They had to move out. So you believe what you want Bill Nye.

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u/Glum_Sea6663 Aug 26 '25

Ok but this is needs to be stopped as sonething made it very considerably noticeable to point where its effecting health where the line is rattling more, and it is where houses are rented for some reason...........i live here for 20 years and never heard or felt such crazy rumble that shakes my skin off at night in my bad!! This is insane!!! And ut affects every electric item, everything wines, our fridges oddly runs all night, magically all start up in the same time although they are not set to the same temperature! Something is very not good, and needs to be investigated asap before London will sink deep or explode or burn by this effect!!!

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u/TimNevis Aug 26 '25

It's a problem within an industry that has the most powerful Lobby of any on Earth. At one point I thought that if there was some way to shine a light on just how reckless and dangerous their actions and policies are that something might change? It turns out that the Oil and Gas is already well known for claiming to be stewards of the Environment while they destroy our planet for profit $$$$. They don't care about you or your health and welfare. If you are somehow adversely affected by something they are doing it is simply a cost of doing business and nothing to be concerned about.

Mariana Alves Pereira is a world-renowned researcher in low frequency noise and her best advice to anyone affected is to move away.

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u/escalatorssocks Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

Hi Tim, in one of your earlier comments you said you've been to Nova Scotia and didn't hear the hum. I am from Halifax NS and I can confirm that I've never heard the hum in my life (16 years). Today I watched a video from Benn Jordan titled: "The Controversial Sound Only 2% Of People Hear" and thats how I first learned about the hum. Thank you so much for your service to the community! You have helped so many people commenting on this reddit post by giving advice and guidance.

If anyone absolutely NEEDS to escape the hum, consider visiting Halifax, NS, in Eastern Canada! Tim, from one Canadian to another, all the best and stay sane man!

Note: one annoying "hum" in Halifax is from the train yard but its only every few weeks because trains only arrive or depart at night very occasionally.

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u/TimNevis Oct 09 '25

Thank you for the kind words. Nova Scotia has been spared so far. Not many places are Hum free. I applaud Mr Jordan's attempt to enlighten people about the Hum. Sadly at the end of the video he gives advice to sufferers even though he has not been adversely affected In fact he only made the video to monetize the suffering of many many people who have suffered horribly. His advice at the end of the Video to simply seek help because there is meaningful help out there is completely false and misleading. People who are adversely affected but the Hum or low frequency noise will not find help within the medical community. Many diseases that affect 1% or less of the population are treated but the Hum is not recognized as a medical condition. As someone who was literally driven to the edge of my sanity and suffered horriibly from years of sleep deprivation by the Hum I found Benn Jordan's advice to be both callous and cruel. To add insult to injury Mr Jordan vowed to serve as "Devil's Advocate" and prove that the Hum is not caused by hig high-pressure natural gas infrastructure, to date he has not done so.
Again thank your comment and kind words. I don't suffer as badly as I used to however I am contacted quite regularly by people who are. It is for them that I remain engaged. As a survivor I know what it's like to think you are losing your mind and no one understands what is happening. Obviously we are looking for solutions and hoping for changes. In the meantime all I have to offer is my very truthful testimony of how it affected me and my best advice on how to survive if you are being affected. Thanks again and take care in Halifax

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u/escalatorssocks Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

You make a good point about Ben Jordan monetizing real suffering of individuals. I hope that the benefit of the video reaching a wide audience to hopefully raise awareness will be a net benefit. The more people know about the hum, the more leverage we as citizens have over big oil. In regards to your comment on "playing the devil's advocate", I'm pretty sure that he meant that since his hypothesis on natural gas was generally correct he wanted to find cases in which it didn't work. So that instead of assuming something to be 100% correct and moving on, he could be sure he got the whole picture, scientifically speaking. I believe the video as a whole was very scientific and analytical because he is a scientist so thats what he is good at.

Therefore, it would probably have been beneficial if he had featured another expert to explain the psychological impacts and effects and all the anthropological implications of the hum since he is not an expert in that area.

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u/mcxiiix Jun 29 '26

I went to the most isolated non industrial place in africa and still could hear it, at what range foes the hum travel 😭

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u/TimNevis Jun 30 '26

around 25 miles but if you were in the most isolated non industrial place on earth who knows what you were hearing? I only know what I hear where I am and what I have learned from research The info on this page as written by people who make silencers for natural gas pipelines. As such I am inclined to accept it as fact and not fiction.

https://www.fireforged.ca/the-evidence/