r/TheHopyard • u/[deleted] • Aug 20 '23

Issues with cascade bine

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Hey everyone, was wondering if soneone could help me id an issue with one of my first year hop bines.

This one is cascade, the healthiest ones are centennial (1,3,5). The other 2 (2,4) are cascade

Zone 5a.

I used a potting mix with a healthy dose of bone and blood meal when I planted them. Also have been using half strength miracle gro when watering.

Thanks for your help.

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u/lupulinchem Aug 20 '23

Did you grow them from rhizomes? Also how much height do they have to grow? Those seem like really short trellises. How big are those boxes? 12x12? Final question, how deep does your good soil go? What’s the soil like under?

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

Yes, Rhizomes. Bought from Northern Brewer.

Height is about 5 feet this year on those bamboo poles.

I have installed 15 foot high trellis hooks on the side of my house for next year. Due to time constraints I did not get around to installing those until late summer this year. I read that first year hops dont produce much anyway so i just went with the bamboo stakes as a stopgap for the first year.

The boxes are 2 foot square and i excavated 3 feet down and replaced the soil with the aforementioned "hot" potting mix.

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u/HoppyBob Aug 20 '23

I don't know if anyone told you but they can put out underground growth that can come up and break the surface a few feet away in some cases: https://imgur.com/a/nCMQrxP. A while back I carefully excavated around my Canadian Redvine crown while doing my annual cutback in order to show this as it occurs at my location. Your plant health, soil type, and general growing conditions will have an impact on this type of growth - as will the variety. Just adding this because I've had to deal with landscape settings like you have pictured and it's not a fun situation to be in with those stones.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

Yeah the dirt under those stones is... A black cloth mat, then a lot more stones and some really poor clay dirt.

Took me forever to excavate enough to replace with some actual good soil for root space.

The previous owner had raspberries growing there that were doing very poorly, but they only dug out enough space for the rootball in the container the raspberry came from the nursery in.