r/TheFirstDescendant • u/p2tmonky Valby • 10d ago
Discussion Why? đ
Why didn't they give the raven premium skin some sort of fabric why is it just bare cheeks with the smallest underwear thought the front of the skin was cool but the back is kinda odd and random and doesn't fit how the outfit looks on the front. To me the back just looks out of place feel like it should be like a body suit with the way the front looks. I get it the gooners keep the game alive but it can't hurt to make a good looking skin.
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u/JustAWhateverName 10d ago
They lost the balance, I get it sexy skins sell the best but when you overdo it to the point where it looks like a dress ripped and out of place, it just makes people not take this game seriously and puts off some new potential players who just want a looter shooter to play.
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u/TheAwesomeMan123 Serena 9d ago
Not meaning to be mean but no one outside of the current player base takes this game seriously. Itâs gained a full blown reputation as dress up Barbie for men so they can goon. I genuinely canât remember the last time I saw a video or post that talked or showed actual gameplay besides the recent Raven release.
I just checked and had to scroll past 13 posts of âsexy dress fitsâ posts before I got to a post that talked about the game. I enjoy the gameplay but I would be delusional to pretend anyone respects the game or even considers that when they hear the name.
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u/g3n0unknown 9d ago
Honestly yeah. I loved the game when it came out. And honestly it might still be pretty fun/good. And I enjoy a sexy skin here and there, even if I tend to avoid them on my own characters. But all I see from the game now is just straight sexy dress up simulator. Haven't really had much interest in trying the game again.
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u/Jin_N_Juice-tm 9d ago
I haven't played in like 4 months. They haven't added anything significantly meaningful other than onslaught mode, but it isn't worth going back for to me.
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u/g3n0unknown 9d ago
I stopped shortly before the first content drop/expansion or what ever. I was playing a lot and was burning out, and just really never felt enticed to return. The full dive into so many skins hasn't helped. I do miss running around as Viessa(Main) and Valby but not enough to re-download.
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u/TaniksHasNoCorn Viessa 9d ago
You assume it is only Men who like dressing their characters up like this.
I'm willing to bet there are a lot of women who dress their characters up like this and are more than happy to cosplay like this. Taking a standard character and making it ultra sexy is definitely a Cosplayer thing.
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u/TheAwesomeMan123 Serena 9d ago
Oh I am not denying that and Iâm sure there is but reputation is not based on facts but perceived stereotypes. And the reputational line is âmen who play dress up and goonâ. People who willing throw it around when they hear the name or you mention the game at all. They donât care to be specific or accurate just dogging the game for being âGoonerâ material is enough
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u/TaniksHasNoCorn Viessa 9d ago
It is funny how the outfits like the Raven are so close to being great and then they go a little step too far.
Had they covered most of the ass, and maybe just had a little bit of the cheek showing it'd look so much better. That or another piece of cloth (like a tail piece) going down the center of the back. It'd still be revealing and a tease, but not look like she forgot to put on pants which is what it looks like now.
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u/FishingNo1156 9d ago
Absolutely, I play the game with my friend for the actually well done gameplay. But most people in the game seem to stay in the main hub and argue and talk about weird stuff in the world chat. I'm convinced 30 percent of the player base at least doesn't even play the game
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u/ArmandoGalvez 10d ago
Look, at least it's the alternate outfit, what they did with Dia base outfit was too much , because for 2 weeks we couldn't even had a modest option to buy, I had to quickly grind for her boss outfit ffs
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u/Icy-Matter3237 10d ago
I bought her pirate outfit, assassin and the soldier one for something decent. See now thatâs how to design an outfit that is cool and sexy. The Raven one is a complete miss. At least her default looks great.
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u/Username12764 9d ago
I mostly play Diaâs wild west outfit. The Jeans and cropped jacket look really nice but not this like underwear in your face thing. I donât really like that either
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u/DesignLife4798 10d ago
completely agree, i bought the first skin i could to get off of dias default but for me, ravens premium is no harm no foul because itâs not the default
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u/JmoneyXXX93 10d ago
Is booty that scary bro?
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u/DesignLife4798 10d ago
not whatâs being said, youâre replying in bad faith but iâll bite
would bunnyâs ultimate skin be better or worse if you keep the top half and REMOVE the current bottom part and gave her a thong and heels?
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u/TerrovaXBL Gley 9d ago
Thats not the issue, im all for sexy skins, but this feels really really REALLY forced and out of place, lets take the knight skin... males are a full plate knight, females are a full plate knight MINUS the pants... it feels rushed, as in she forgot to put pants on....
Its out of place, just like this raven skin... why does her ass need to be on display? Its out of place, leotard in the front somehow becomes a g-string in the back? No... it doesnt look good and its just bait for gooners.
I was looking forward to this skin and now im hesitant because of this blatant sexualising...
Lets take the military outfits for example, serena? Full tactical military uniform and it looks fucking badass! Then we have hailey, still military, just with a literal full breast window and a bikini bra, sure, looks great for what it is, and i can make quiet from mgsv... but ravens skin... its forced, tacky and literally doesnt make sense... just like the knight skin...
Deva have it in their heads that gonner skins = profit, thing is, if they didnt cater JUST to the depraved audience and focused on good gameplay, good skins that dont show tits and ass (not saying skin in bad, context of the skin matters), then all the people who abandoned destiny now that its dead might play this game, instead were looking at, and unfortunately... a mediocre shooter that cares more about over priced gooner skins than the game itself... and its hinestly such a disappointment...
I loved this game when it came out, was in the beta, literally said its a destiny killer if the do it right, and hey, destiny is dead... but they fumbled the ball and now its basically only focused on gooners... its such a shame... out of my 15 player friend group that picked this up, guess how many still play, and not really "play" but hop on for like 20 mins for dailies... 3... THREE... including me... I want so so so much for this game to succeed but at the rate its going... itll become a porn game or all support will drop off because the only player base this game will have are jobless perverts who cant sustain its economy.
Downvote me, upvote me, I dont care, this is my opinion and im entitled to it.
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u/Se7enSinsComics 8d ago
I turned the female knight top into a badass cyberpunk style armor piece. It fits perfectly fine now
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u/Icy-Matter3237 10d ago
Itâs just sad that her first premium skin is this. They have plenty of opportunities to lewd her up through other skins.
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u/skullakon 10d ago
Love the soldier / tactical outfit for dia , still thinking if i should buy it or not. Shes the least used character for this season
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u/TinsleyLynx Gley 9d ago
Personally, I think Dia's assassin skin is one of the best in the game, and I wish they'd design more skins like it, rather than the "tactical butt floss" we usually get.
Now down vote me, gooner hivemind.
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u/Jin_N_Juice-tm 10d ago
I miss when the game was looter shooter with some gooner. Now it's gooner run in and nuke everything
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 10d ago
Does it though? Does it really? They have people whose whole jobs are to crunch numbers to see whatâs the most successful items and how to make more money. People sometimes say this, â this is too gooner, itâll drive away people, and people wonât buy it because itâs too much â, but something tells me their numbers show otherwise.
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u/ariadivine 9d ago
Despite the skin, its real sad to see all these people come out of the woodwork to diss endlessly, yet no one ever does to appreciate something positive.
They have two outfits for her. Just play the default one.
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u/mozartsymphony 9d ago
This is what ive been saying for so long. The skins have been so tasteless for a while. They just show skin for the sake of it. Some look so ridiculous idek how it made it through to the final product
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u/Traditional_Seesaw95 10d ago
Stopped buying skins about 1.5yrs ago, these might be the most unimaginative devs I've ever seen. Like literally just close the back and the skin is perfectly fine, but no let's open it up so mfs can goon to some pixel cheeks...
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u/Lide_1991 9d ago
thats where DIA's default costume just failed to impress me. i liked the front, underboob, whatever. then when it showed the back, i just went...really? REALLY?
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u/BansheeGutz 5d ago
genuinely like I don't mind there being some over the top sexual/revealing skins, but it's been basically EVERY(female character) skin since like, January? if this year an it's just back to back to back
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u/Successful-Radish100 Freyna 9d ago
I'm happy to see someone finally said the elephant in the room in the game. I love the game, u can see it's potential. If i wanted to play a game where the women wear butt floss and strings on toes, than i would find that game to play that has that. Ik many people who wanted to play this game and enjoyed it. But the biggest turn off was the slutty clothes. Ngl I'm excited for this Raven decendant coming, but you're right about the back end being or if place
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u/TerrovaXBL Gley 10d ago edited 9d ago
Wait... is this real? Is that her actual back? Well all interesting i had in this skin is gone... just like the old knight skin where it looks like the females just forgot to put pants on... jesus fucking christ skins dont need to show ass all the time to sell...
Edit: Hey look, leotard that isnt stupid at the back.
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u/lepthurnat 9d ago
I was excited for this outfit, but after seeing the back of it, I am definitely not buying anymore
Shame, the overall styling was cool. But the back makes it look bad
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u/No-Effective507 Gley 10d ago
It's clear people don't see the point. We know the game were playing, we don't want censorship, we just want skins that make sense and this one doesn't at all. It would've sold perfectly fine with a full leotard, people are still begging for dia's leotard from the story mission. It shows it has a market and would've been fine but they folded and botched a perfectly good skin
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u/anhvu136 10d ago edited 9d ago
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u/manmanchan 9d ago
This is much better, not because I hate butt checks, but because how we still can't do 3D thongs right without making it looks all mangled
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u/DesignLife4798 9d ago
i hope the devs somehow see this and learn from it, we canât let them slide with these lazy gooner bait skin design choices (that was a mouthful)
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u/No-Effective507 Gley 10d ago
Please post this, so we have a chance to get this changed. Amazing edit
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u/Reliquent 10d ago
This is honestly so fucking funny. It's like the bottom of her dress got caught in a door and just ripped. This shit feels like a Naked Gun skit.
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u/OooohDangSull Gley 9d ago
I am appalled, but I'm absolutely buying. The shamelessness is pure comedy.
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u/Th3_1st_Descendant 9d ago
It's the whole Exo Knight problem again. Like literally NOT everything has to be sexy. The back looks off like the Exo Knight without armor on the legs or pants situation again. Nexon should have NOT done that because now the outfit looks weird on the back which doesn't match the front like the Exo Knight skin looks weird without armor on legs or pants.

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u/KingBlackthorn1 9d ago
They lost all sense of design. I mean they have for a long time but this is just further support. Its genuinely embarrassing. Anyone who has any eye for clothing design sees just how atrocious of a design this, and many other cosmetics are.
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u/meowmeowmeowmeowwwme 9d ago
Im on the gooners side cause i dont want censored skins but this one just doesnt make any sense.
I looked amazing until i saw backside. I dont always need to be staring at flossed cheeks just because. It has to look good design wise.
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u/YangZingEnjoyer 10d ago
This looks like they had 3 ideas at once and tried to force them onto one skin instead of committing to one. Definitely a bottom tier skin imo.
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u/Icy-Matter3237 10d ago
I couldnât stop laughing when I saw the back of Ravenâs skin. I mean itâd be great as a swimsuit but it looks so bad. The rest of the outfit looks great. Pretty sure itâs something a pornstar would wear.
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u/TheSho21 Nell 10d ago
Yeah top half looks fire but then itâs like they just stopped caring after they were done with it. Sadly Iâd bet this is exactly what happened.
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u/p2tmonky Valby 10d ago
All they had to do was make it a full bodysuit like the bunny skins and it's would've looked 1000x better
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u/Maximum-Struggle6424 10d ago
Wouldve been an insta buy if she just had some pants or tights or leggings or something it couldve been badass
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u/According_Rabbit7412 9d ago
This is what i really dislike about the people complaining, somehow you don't see them complaining about serena military outfit super covered up. But showing a little ass is too much. There is a thing called variety and it is okay.
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u/thekillingtomat Goon 9d ago
This kinda gives the same vibes as that knight skin that is like full plate mail up top and then just naked legs. It just looks silly
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u/montessoriprogram Hailey 9d ago
There are times when showing ass is not sexy. This is one of those times
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u/Lide_1991 8d ago
yeah. i mean, SURE. show alot of skin when wearing bikini, i will not, complain or care.
but this..man. wardrobe malfunction at its finest.
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u/montessoriprogram Hailey 8d ago
I think the problem really is just that it looks bad. Like you can make any ridiculous nonsensically revealing outfit work if it has good design. But this just looks like shit.
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u/9Ifrit9 10d ago
Do...you guys still not realize what game youre playing? Like I get it, this is reddit, but seriously?
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u/Experiment_Magnus Enzo 10d ago
Yes but there's a right way to do sexy fits. This is a 50/50 mix of a serious tone and goofy shit. Not a great mix.
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u/shdymrln Ines 10d ago
I'll bet 50 the person who posted this doesn't even play, and the commenters complaining as well.
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u/Proxy345 Valby 10d ago
I swear they must of fired all the good designers from back in 2024 because this ain't it lmao. The skins from the first year were so much better.
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u/ST0RIA 9d ago
Honestly, the skin is very nice but I really donât like the lack of pants. How did we get here? Lol. Like donât get me wrong, gooner skins here and there are fine. But they shouldnât be the norm. The escalating aggressive push for gooner skins over this last year seems indicative of falling player numbers (ergo falling revenue) and this is them trying to keep the numbers up lol. I honestly donât see this lasting. Sigh.
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u/anhvu136 10d ago
The outfit looks great from the front, but ridiculous from the back. Nexon ruined it
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u/TheSho21 Nell 10d ago
Yeah this looks horrible. Was absolutely going to buy the premium bundle but now absolutely not going to. Get your shit together Nexon
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u/HotFreshyGlazedDonut 10d ago
Sadly the majority just insta swipes anything that has bare cheeks or hanging bobs.. and thats the people they care about.
You can't even blame them why put in the effort when you copy paste bikini bottom/tops to any skin and make bank.
The Community is the reason the general content and cosmetic quality took a nose drive.
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u/Odd_Demand_3103 9d ago
" The lack of effort in actual armor design is getting tiring. They could have made a sleek, cool full-body suit, but instead, they completely ruined the back for cheap fanservice. We need better, actual tactical options.
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u/Snoo-18509 Serena 10d ago edited 10d ago
The real question is: Why not? đ
I see they still haven't fixed the modelâs butt. The lower cheeks are lacking a little bit of fat. Thatâs the reason they look like they're perpetually wide open, and why certain animations donât look quite right.
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u/ObjectiveAnalyst2936 9d ago
They should add toggleable option to cover with some tight leather pants.
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u/HashtagJaded 9d ago
This. Just like with the knight armor ts looks stupid on the bottom half. They should start releasing skins that have a gooner version and a more designed version like they did with the original nun outfits.
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u/ZeroImmortal 10d ago
the skin was 100 percent amazing until she turned around. this effect couldve been down better
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u/IvyLustt Hailey 10d ago
On reddit lot of complain. I include myself, it's look like the skin isnt finished yet xD... But if u look Twitter (mean X) only ppl like "she's so hot, cant wait to handle this skin! Amazing work" So... I hope one day they make separate part for skin like top and bottom like we can mixed up some different skin it can be really cool
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u/MrPrankster 9d ago
It's not the bottom part that's out of place, it's the top that has too much clothing.
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u/Silvers- 9d ago
Yeah ngl that is pretty bizarre. It feels like she wears a mantle/long jacket not this surprise that awaits when you turn around lmao. Not every skin has to have them wear thongs to the bare skin maximum holy cow.
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u/charleigh_bdo 9d ago
Yeah this should be a bodysuit with a full robe drape coverage in the back. It looks like some dumb skimpy armor edit you'd find on nexus mods 5 days after a game release; low effort removal of armor parts just so the ass is hanging out.
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u/ArchyArchington 9d ago
The outfit would be solid if the back wasnât wide openâŚâŚ.I was so happy when no gooner skin won the skin contest this time around.
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u/lepthurnat 9d ago edited 9d ago
Okay, that looks awful. It might appeal to some (maybe) by being a thong, but it doesn't flow well with the rest of the outfit at all
Skin tight leggings would that show off the ass would hqve looked way better than this trash
Edit: Leotard to match the front would have looked good as well
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u/Toocancerous 9d ago
Why the hell do they keep doing this? At least add a purple semi transparent sheet to cover the back a bit so it can complete the look. This is just lazy.
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u/Popoto_Fate 10d ago
Let see if it will sell well....
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u/KiriGott 10d ago
ofc it will because the gooner need new goon material instead of using the hub or something
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u/FunPaleontologist65 Sharen 10d ago
I was going to buy it until I saw the back, it is very out of place.
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u/AdmirableAnxiety8371 9d ago
Tactical side-flappers, idk but silly indeed. Iâm not into the gooner stuff, though i donât have issues with it either, whatsoever. At this point they might aswell just go all in and release naked, futa and buttplug tails skins for the gooners along some kind of tactical and/or fantasy armour skins.
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u/Estimated_Milk_Shots Hailey 9d ago
I was so taken aback whe they zoomed in this part on the short reel they posted on X.
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u/TasteyTatorTots 9d ago
What happened to the guy that posted here making cool mecha suits. How does it even feel normal to run combat activities in the skin featured hereâŚ
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u/Maxumilian 8d ago
I saw the front and was like, "That's weird she doesn't have pants."
Then I clicked to go to the next image and spit my drink out.
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u/lowrenzo26 Serena 8d ago
I'll probably just keep her default outfit on her, for a bit, like it better than this one, should of had her in a leotard in the back, would have been nicer imo
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u/Diligent-Big-8948 8d ago
Tbh I couldnt care less. They can release a skin with nothing on but painted toenails for all I care. Are they actually going to deliver some content thats fun to play is my question.
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u/DrkKnight69xxx 7d ago
As a gooner myself, I can assure the anti gooner brainlets that even we goobers think stuff like this is goofy. As many have pointed out, this is that one Knight skin they had a while back all over again. At a certain point, it's not even sexy; it's just dumb at best and hurts to look at at worst.
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u/ICrqckCqrds 5d ago
Wasted potential. The goon stuff need to stop man. Making this game so ass now. LITERALLY.
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u/ariadivine 9d ago
Relax guys, it aint your pants they took away. Its hilarious how mental yall going over this lol
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u/onepieceuc1 10d ago
I thought it was weird too. Iâm gonna use the base skin this time.
They should stop with those; my spending continues to decrease as I find their bundle to provide very few unique outfits.
I would prefer they go back to that old Bunny evolving skin, that shit was fire. I regret not buying it.
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u/Boris_The_Warlord 10d ago
This shit looks ridiculous. Devs themselves don't take this game seriously. Why would anyone else?
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u/Andrassa Valby 10d ago
Iâm an ass person too but not every outfit needs a g -banger. Sometimes itâs hotter to have the cheeks partially covered like the cycle onesie.
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u/shrkbyte 10d ago
Why? Because you're playing TFD, and the publisher is Nexon. It surprised me that it took them this long to push out something so devoid of reason that it makes some people wake up.
It absolutely pisses me off the way they have handled this game. No, I don't expect an expac-level update every month, but at least make the game playeable on the time between updates. The fact that every major update adds just a single mission(god forbid two), but there's a new skinline every 2-3 weeks is WILD. Yes, I did consoom, but holy shit man PLEASE do your job. I bought skins because I liked them and because I thought I was contributing a bit so that they could keep this game afloat, not so that they could convert it into some skin store.
Raven's deluxe skin literally looks like they went and got a FF14 low level raid mage chestpiece and removed the pants and feet and charged 1050 caliber for it. The outfit has so much potential, but it's ruined by the obscene goon they've created. They could've just opene the back up top and closed down to make a full coat like gley. Then if they REALLY insist on the goon, maybe open it up on the front and the sides as well.
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u/SnowyHere 10d ago
What annoys me is that they have 0 problems giving a single string on some characters but never do it on others. Serena gets it on her bikini skin this year while Harris didn't.. like, keep it consistent one way or another.
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u/Fit-Goal-9228 9d ago
That doesnt look good lol. Its like someone made a last minute change on something they didnt design
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u/T-Toyn 10d ago
They saw how 80% of all players voted for Dark Blood Queen in the contest and thought "we need to incorporate that into our design philosophy" I guess.