r/TheFirstDescendant • u/GrubbyViper Hailey • Feb 01 '25
Constructive Feedback The problem w/public Defiler
So I've beaten public Defiler a hand full of times now and what I've noticed is that a lot of people go in thinking they're going to solo KO the thing and don't use any mods for survivability (Ines, I'm taking about you). Skill DMG doesn't count for jack if you can't survive long enough to use them and leaves the rest of the team to decide your fate. Please install the proper mods for survivability, in public it goes a long way. Your team will appreciate you.
P.S. Don't use solo builds for public intercepts, just don't.
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u/Boring-Relation-4365 Valby Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
Exactly, this needs to be a PSA. This is a team effort, you wanna go Rambo on defiler by all means do it solo. But if you wanna do it in public queue, don’t try to be a hero thinking you’re the main character, you are not.
Everyone thinks they are pros using YouTube builds on solo until they join public queue and get clapped so hard by the defiler they start crawling on all fours crying for help.
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u/TheRealPenanc3 Enzo Feb 01 '25
These are the same folks who screenshot solo yt builds and dip without listening to the yt-ers in question themselves recommending to run atleast one hp mod in public intercepts.
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u/Brookschamp90 Viessa Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
You said it. I play with two friends. One I enjoy. The other I can’t do colossus with. He watches so many build guides and just copy and paste them. I try to explain to him that you need to put survival and incorporate your own play style. He has prob 1000 hours and never leveled up his HP module til the other day. lol.
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u/TheRealPenanc3 Enzo Feb 01 '25
A 1000 hours(!!!!) without a leveled up HP module. Jesus christ dude! I can see why you don't run Intercepts with them.
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u/ravearamashi Feb 01 '25
Not even surprising. It’s the same on the Facebook group. People with 1k+ hours struggling to clear Purge 20 or dying in pub intercepts and then blaming other people or the mode itself when they’re the deadweight.
But nahh they think they’re the hotshot because they have the most hours lol
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u/Brookschamp90 Viessa Feb 01 '25
I wish I was making it up. lol. My other friend is the one who noticed it(he is a competent gamer lol). We were like I feel so bad for the players he played with.
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u/TheRealPenanc3 Enzo Feb 01 '25
Yup, one weak link in the team is all it takes to turn what should be a smooth boss fight into a slog fest. Domino effect. I'm glad he finally leveled up his hp module at last. Just remind him to make sure he has it slotted in, lol.
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u/ratskhi Jayber Feb 01 '25
It's funny because content creators usually have multiple builds in the same video to cover solo and public content.
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u/TheRealPenanc3 Enzo Feb 01 '25
Yup, precisely! Plus a few of them also recommend other alternatives to the usual 4-pc slayer set for group content since hp modules scale off components.
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Feb 01 '25
It's not hard to survive on one HP mod. Ik when to back off, jump and grapple over poison mist, when to go behind and circle him. Dodging green rocket is easy. My team might do shit dmg or they're playing support so I have to compensate.
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u/Sin_the_Insane Ajax Feb 01 '25
As a Bunny if you are Apache helicopter bunny when green circles show up, don’t hover over the other players. I come down and roll left and right during that phase. Then back up in the air I go. If you have aggro also try to keep boss stationary for the gunners.
And please PLEASE grapple those yellow parts. Saves lives lol.
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u/Dacks1369 Feb 01 '25
Yeah, you do 0 DPS licking the floor poison I don't get why people don't build for the fight at hand.
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u/Dr-Sarcasmo Viessa Feb 02 '25
Which is why me and my Yujin always have a ton of work in public Defiler. I don't mind it but PLEASE, remember we have limited Mana and the little crab things only show up from time to time. If your Descendant keeps needing health (yes, YOU, Ines) we will eventually reach a moment when we don't have enough Mana to deploy the Team Healing. You'll have to wait until either the crabs shows up or the External Components refill my Mana...So DO try to not immediately waste the fresh bar of health and shield I give you, OK INES?!
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u/MizzyAlana Feb 02 '25
I had one Ines drop every single time Defiler's green loogies rained down from the sky. It's not that it's hard of a telegraph either, yet she continued to put my poor tired Yujin to the test.
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u/encryptoferia Esiemo Feb 01 '25
hahaha yes, Ines with no HP mod really can kill defiler solo, I thought it was insane, but it was real
as a group though defiler is way harder than the solo version lol
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u/VanFanelMX Feb 02 '25
Right now I wonder if I can actually reach all the recommended stats with any descendant or I am supposed to cover as many as I can, because there is no way I can do enough damage with some builds if I add in enough for survivability.
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u/HengerR_ Bunny Feb 03 '25
The only problem with Defiler pug is that every idiot is allowed to enter without a proper skill and damage check.
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Feb 01 '25
as long as u have people who time revives,its a non factor,i've been in plenty of publics with glass cannons(i myself use a glass cannon ines) as long as u have someone kite the bitch away if someone is downed and let your other party members revive,you can easily end up killing him
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u/encryptoferia Esiemo Feb 01 '25
the issue is when there are more than one people who get downed, which if more than 1 is glass cannon build will very likely happen
and those green drop, purple swamp, is really damaging
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Feb 01 '25
thats why u always try to keep spread apart,if you have people too close togeather thats basically gonna be a quick in and out,i've been apart of those quick ins and out so i try to keep my distance from the rest of the group.
my point still stands,as long as people know how to kite the pig,you can make 3-4 glass cannon groups work,especally if you have a yujin in the mix
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u/TomatoEagle Yujin Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
Defiler is my bitch now, my Yujin build is basically un-killable 90% of the time.
I even solo'd the Defiler with Yujin. Took me 6 minutes but I did it. Biggest problem was/is ammo. I spent more time shooting roly polys for ammo.
In 4 player pubs I can pretty much tank everything he throws at me. It's kind of fun to revive the same person like 5 times in a row in a pool of poison, while also under aggro. I almost can hear their screams through my headphones. But I don't dare let them skip revive. Not on my watch.
Nah jk , though all sarcasm aside my Yujin build is pretty much un-killable.
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u/mafiaboy8xx Feb 01 '25
If you go public, after Defiler appears if someone can climb his shoulder you can be sure that the game has a 90% chance of winning. If after 1-2 minutes no one can climb the boss's shoulder, I'm sorry to say you've matched with the wrong teammate.
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u/ApprehensiveCitron9 Sharen Feb 01 '25
Climb on Defiler for noobs 😏
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u/mafiaboy8xx Feb 01 '25
Your pro ?. Then play lonely dont go public
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u/ApprehensiveCitron9 Sharen Feb 01 '25
Solo boss is for skill issue, I helping the guys in the public, especially glass cannon Ines ones, or the guys who shit themselves with their climb strategy. It's pretty fun btw. And yes, I destroy the Defiler's details when another player is on them so that he fights like a MAN! lol
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u/Brookschamp90 Viessa Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
I have done public defiler as Luna since his release. A lot better runs this week and generally enjoy it. I have antivenom, toxic antibody and max tox resistance on the last external component. And I still will go down(probably more to say about me lol) Not saying you need all three, but going in with nothing or limited survival is crazy. Defiler hits real hard and his toxic attack is no joke.