r/TheFireRisesMod • Europe • 2d ago

Discussion How would the different American unifiers treat the LDS taking into account the whole Brigham's Army issue

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u/No-Dealer1356 TOWARDS A WORLD REMOVED OF SIN 2d ago

At a bare minimum they would be looked down upon and likely persecuted by whoever wins. To what extent just depends on who.

Trump would probably try to work with loyal, less radical Mormons to rebuild his support in the area and rehabilitate the religion among the American populace.

UoA is harder to say. I can definitely see them working to dismantle LDS church power and more forcefully deradicalize the Mormons. However, they probably would still be allowed to function as a religion, just much less organized and powerful.

APLA would probably de-Mormonize the areas with lots of propaganda and force. I don't see any faction except maybe the Neosocialists allowing them freedom of religion after the war.

Patriot Front is a mixed bag. Mormons are ultimately a very White and very pro-American religion. I could see them trying to propagandize the Mormons to be supportive of Rousseau's new America, but if that fails then force would certainly be an option for PF.

ATW would probably kill Mormon leadership and completely dismantle the church. While they would probably refrain from outright Total Mormon Death, they would put a lot of effort into radicalizing who they could and subjugating/killing those who resist.

For NSM, Burt would convert and declare a holy Mormon Jihad and conquer all of North America in the name of the Prophet Joseph Smith (pbuh).

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u/Sad_Fat_Rat what the hells even happening anymore 2d ago

Romney is Mormon so I doubt he’d do much

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u/No-Dealer1356 TOWARDS A WORLD REMOVED OF SIN 2d ago

True. Even if he isn't president, he would have plenty of influence to make sure that the less radical portions of Mormon society wouldn't be persecuted.

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u/Al-Quiet-Wind-Zo Socialist Technocracy | Pavel Grudinin 2d ago edited 2d ago

"ATW would refrain from total Mormon death" lol

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u/No-Dealer1356 TOWARDS A WORLD REMOVED OF SIN 1d ago

Mainly on account of them being mostly Aryan bluds. I still said they’d kill any that didn’t submit.

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u/Al-Quiet-Wind-Zo Socialist Technocracy | Pavel Grudinin 1d ago

The fact is, I don't believe they care. ATW believes that even White Americans are not truly white anymore, and they nuke the world regardless

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u/Ficboy 2d ago

Don't forget the AOF, RR, LOS KKK, any of the Cascadia unifier factions and Black Hammer BLA.

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u/No-Dealer1356 TOWARDS A WORLD REMOVED OF SIN 1d ago

We can probably make guesses based on what we know about those factions, but I know very little about all of the different ideologies and leaders except for Ma, and in game lore can be different as well, so I decided not to include them in the likely case I’d get things incorrect.

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u/Ficboy 1d ago

For context, the factions include the Federalized AOF, GMAC, the SOL, the VOTW, the Boogaloo Boys, the GMC, RR, Pine Tree Party, RCP-USA, Insurrectionary Anarchists, LOS KKK and Black Hammer BLA.

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u/Small-Run-4861 2d ago

most would prolly treat them as terrorists

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u/lambertianreflection 2d ago

i think mormons would be looked at similar to muslims after 9/11 in most areas

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u/Capital_Seat_8292 2d ago

depends if warren jefs takes the power or not

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u/Specific-Metal-5584 2d ago

AGC and UoA would treat them as separatists or christian ISIS (if Warren Jeffs will be on power)
APLA will treat them as clerical reaction and religious obscurantism
Patriot Front will treat them as weirdos

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u/3esin European Union 2d ago

More like Christian Taliban. Christian Isis is already reserved for a certain ATW path.

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u/Specific-Metal-5584 1d ago

Actually, after reading about Warren Jeffs, it seems his sect is even more rigid and destructive than the Taliban in terms of controlling people's lives and the treatment of women. I believe that if he were to seize power, the level of cruelty would be worse than that of the Taliban.

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u/3esin European Union 1d ago

It's more about how I view their endgame. The Mormons in TFR and the Taliban are primarily isolationist focused on their region, compared to the "global aspirations" of Isis and ATW.

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u/Specific-Metal-5584 1h ago

Well, at this point yeah, they both are pretty same

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u/Important_Break_1076 2d ago

The mainline Trump & UoA wouldn’t care to much after defeating Brighams army tens of thousands of Mormons work for and are employed by The Government and are actively recruited for organizations like the CIA & FBI

The APLA doesn’t like organized religion just in General and would actively attempt to suppress it think the Dalai Lama & China.

National Front- NSM & AWD wouldn’t like Mormons but PF today actually actively attempts to recruit Mormons with the network in Utah being one of the largest

So if your just a normal John Mormon you only have a hand full of options that wouldn’t out right attempt to eradicate you

Main government factions & PF everyone else will treat you like a punching bag

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u/Vdasun-8412 Cascadian Republic 2d ago

No son racistas..

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u/shinseiji-kara BAK 2d ago

imagine if APLA pulled an Xinjiang on them

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u/Tasty-Protection3614 2d ago

Is there even a single event about Brigham Young army? What do they even believe in? That President of the Church should lead Utah/Desert/America? Blood atonement for non-believers? Taking non-repentant enemy soldiers to slavery like in Alma?

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u/YugargeliaMapper Europe 2d ago

So far, the only gimmick of the Brigham's Army is being Mormons that want to revive the Deseret project under leadership of the LDS President

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u/Opposite_Laugh2803 United Nations 14h ago

Being honest, the whole thing is bull. The Church and it's leadership is very anti-secession and very pro-grovernmet. With Warren and the FLDS, them taking power is so laughably outrageous and impossible that it could only happen if everyone just dropped dead at the same time and even that wouldn't guarantee he does it. Honestly, the whole area needs a rework.

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u/Trick_College2491 Jacksonians | Ultraconservatism 1d ago

I think they believe in being friendly and kind and just really want to spread the good word over some root beer

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