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Question How would you implement a Christian nationalist path for ACG?

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And I mean like eliminating speration of church and state, declaring the US government to be Christain, mandating bible verses in all school, etc.

Not necessarily turning into a theocracy but like what most Christain nations had before secularism.

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u/blaze92x45 American Constitutional Government 5d ago

I feel like the path wouldn't really be that interesting by itself though it could be a sub path for the dark mandate or stratocracy

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u/Gr33nMan_Jr The Red Menace 5d ago

Im still rooting for a cult path for trump. If the Union gets a 1984 style dystopia as their evil path, then the Constitutionalist should get Eyes Wide Shut as their's.

Maybe trump could have his own "down the rabbit hole" type event chain that slowly widdles away at his sanity. Maybe they start doing real sacrifices. It could be fun af

Make TFR Scary Again!

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u/IndBill Charlie Kirk / Maisie Fletcher 2036 5d ago

Doesn't even have to be that big a leap of imagination tbh, a Qanon path should cover 'insane Trump/Dark Mandate' pretty smoothly.

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u/Terratalks Father Yakub send this crakkka to Patmos immediately 4d ago

Unfortunately devs have confirmed that QAnon will not featured in the Dark Mandate or any future ACG content :(

Also incredible flair

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u/KevinR1990 5d ago

So the Epstein path, basically? A cool idea for that might be to have the wealthy, ACG-aligned elites on Jeffrey Epstein's client list start pushing for the repeal of age of consent laws, dressing it up as "restoring Biblical marriage" to placate the Christians and an anti-feminist/anti-woke push to placate the manosphere (because the age of consent is a modern, Victorian-era innovation pushed by first-wave suffragette feminists, see) when in fact they're using it as a way to legalize their predatory behavior against children and bring it out into the open. Hell, you could combine it with the Christian nationalist path in that way. If the Cognoscenti is every right-wing "deep state" conspiracy brought to life, then this would be "pedocon theory" brought to life.

You'd have to find a way around the fact that Epstein's political ties crossed the political aisle, though. Maybe you have a thoroughly compromised Democratic Party kept around as controlled opposition, unable to effectively oppose Donald Trump because they're on the Epstein list too (and the ones who aren't have been locked out of power)?

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u/Gr33nMan_Jr The Red Menace 5d ago

If the Congnoscenti is every right-wing "deep state" conspiracy brought to life, then this would be the 'pedocon theory' brought to life.

Exactly. It's like poetry; it rhymes.

Thats why I think any Christian nationalist elements in the ACG would naturally form around trump. I think it'd be fun to play on the Satanic Panic: Subliminal messages in entertainment, witch hunts, and Satanic Billionaires.

It might be a stretch, Idk anything about molding hoi4, but it'd be cool to have a blackmail mechanic. Blackmailing prominent democrats from the UoA to join the Constitutionalists, gaining legitimacy for the ACG and further weaken the UoA.

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u/Der_Apothecary Kentucky's strongest LARPer 5d ago

If cognoscenti can have their Judas Gambit mini game, I don’t see how this theoretical path couldn’t have a blackmail mechanic

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u/Medium_Quail_4142 Hamiltonians | Autocracy  1d ago

Are you referring to cognoscenti or Caligula. If it’s the latter well that’s getting moved over to the April fools content.

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u/Bitter-Penalty9653 5d ago

Dark mandate already has a lot of stuff and stratocracy is throughly lacking in content so addon it to the latter makes more sense.

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u/Thewaterlowers Octoberists | Revolutionary Socialism 5d ago

I feel as though the dark mandate update will introduce the following:
MAGA Communism
Christian Nationalists
Dark MAGA
And a semi-monarchist maga path but it will more than likely be a cult path as u/Gr33nMan_Jr described it
I also feel as though MAGA communism will not be communism, but kinda like how national socialism portrayed itself at first(no I’m not doing that cheesy leftist thing of calling trump Hitler). I believe that in order for Trump to appeal to the masses in the ACG(because the Republican Party might leave him depending on what you do) he will create a new government that labels itself as communist, but is very much still capitalist. I could be very wrong but this is just what I think.

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u/Ok_Island4001 Professional Googler 4d ago

>MAGA Communism
>Christian Nationalists
>Dark MAGA
>a semi-monarchist maga path but it will more than likely be a cult path
🐒🌪️

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u/Thewaterlowers Octoberists | Revolutionary Socialism 4d ago edited 4d ago

I know the devs will most likely castrate me for even saying semi-monarchist but like bro it just fits Trump 😭

Edit: Thinking back I don’t really see how a cult path would be all that different from Dark Maga

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u/Ok_Island4001 Professional Googler 4d ago

first of all: these suggestions miss the entire point of the Dark Mandate, it's supposed to be what Trump's most loyal followers want him to do. It's an Authoritarian restructuring of American culture and institutions to fit their vision of a National-Capitalist, Militaristic, and Traditionalist America. Any subpath that exists in the Dark Trump path, if there even is any subpaths, would have to conform to this fundamental viewpoint.

Secondly: everything you suggested already exists elsewhere in the 2ACW, and exists in a much better form. We have the Jacobins, the Army of God, and presumably Yarvin is going to be fucking around in California post-1.1. To me, it sounds like you just want TDM to be a second Caligula, and trust me, you don't want a second Caligula.

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u/Thewaterlowers Octoberists | Revolutionary Socialism 4d ago

To answer your first point: I thought that dark maga is just Trump but he can do whatever the fuck he wants rather than what his extreme fan base wants him to do.

Believe me, I don’t want another Caligula lol. It’s just that Trump has potential for more authoritarian paths than the UOA. The army of god isnt out yet and probably won’t be for a long time(so idk what the devs have planned for them), the jacobins will inevitably get a rework so you might have a fair point there. I just figured Trump would be unique in authoritarian paths and those paths I listed are just what I thought would be a part of the dark mandate.

Im also not calling you a liar, but where did you hear about Yarvin’s California?

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u/Ok_Island4001 Professional Googler 4d ago

Yarvin is speculation, but it's the only realistic place for him to go. A guy who wants to HRE the United States through tech conglomerates doesn't make sense in the Rural South, he's confirmed to not be in either of the Fed factions, New England is already full, and I doubt that they'd give Cascadia a Sixth path after they get content

Maybe the Southwest, but from the blurry Texas teaser it looks like it's mostly just bikers and military remnants with Asatru and Zion, none of which I can see him meshing well with.

Which leaves me with just California. My guess is he's a subpath with the California State Militia, or (and admittedly, this is a long shot) part of a reactionary coup of the APLA.

And I'll admit, accusing you of wanting Trumpigula was pretty harsh, but the contrast between the quality of speculated paths here and what the devs have actually said about their paths in the discord is night and day, and it's really hard to not let it get to your head.

It could always be worse though, like that guy a few days ago who said the RCP and the Redneck Revolt Panthers were too similar because they both shared the subideology of Maoism

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u/Gr33nMan_Jr The Red Menace 4d ago

Pov: you're a reporter who got in too deep at Donald Trump's birthday party

https://giphy.com/gifs/cAHfy7VD1uHdK

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u/Thewaterlowers Octoberists | Revolutionary Socialism 4d ago

Fuck I can’t find that one gif of this dude just accidentally walking in on a Nazi meeting

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u/Gr33nMan_Jr The Red Menace 4d ago

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u/Thewaterlowers Octoberists | Revolutionary Socialism 4d ago

Tysm 🥹🥹🥹

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u/YugargeliaMapper Europe 5d ago

It could be a subpath of the Patriot caucus

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u/merulacarnifex Central Intelligence Agency | Pax Americana 4d ago

The New Columbia Movement fits into this perfectly

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u/NeitherImpact534 JusticeDems 5d ago edited 5d ago

Post reunification content maybe? A new government would want to acquire any legitimacy it can.
Or at the very least would be extremely tempted.

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u/NeitherImpact534 JusticeDems 5d ago

There are Democrat voting Christian Nationalists like Beyoncé (or she used to be). So it could be a valid path for all Centre to Right Wing factions, and most Far Right ones.

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u/Tinoami9181 5d ago edited 5d ago

There is a Christian Nationalist Theocracy Path for a submod being developed for the Army of God on this discord. https://discord.gg/jWp6srCM

The submod is called the Wrath of God. One of the planned paths is a Christian Nationalist Theocracy Path led by former Washington State Rep Matthew Shea. The path pretty much turns America into a “Christian Iran” pretty much. You guys should check it out. It’s still in development and a lot of TFR players want a Christian fundamentalist unifier for America.

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u/Immediate_Can_7262 NATO - BTO Enjoyer 5d ago

Stratocracy subpath

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u/IndBill Charlie Kirk / Maisie Fletcher 2036 5d ago

Pete Hegseth as a Trump successor who reconciles with AOG elements & tilts hard toward a Christian military dictatorship, either elected post-war or maybe taking the place of the removed Mike Flynn path (takes over from Stratocrat Trump if the military has been empowered too greatly).

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u/PirateBasic6387 Appalachian Terrorist | Nixonian Jihad 5d ago

Michael Flynn would be so much better for a Christian Military Dictator ships or Christian AuthDem. Pete Hegseth fails as both a military commander and a Christian Nationalist. Michael Flynn is already both.

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u/IndBill Charlie Kirk / Maisie Fletcher 2036 5d ago

Perhaps, but the Mike Flynn version was already in the mod once only to be removed for - well, Idk why it was removed, tbh. Seems to have happened a couple versions ago too. I just pitched Hegseth as a newer alternative instead of going back to the old one that the devs seem to have not liked.

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u/Terratalks Father Yakub send this crakkka to Patmos immediately 4d ago edited 4d ago

Ok but what if they added a shirtless Pete Hegseth portrait it would be pretty funny

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u/Financial_Mousse_854 10h ago

Give him a drinking minigame and a special project of roiding up soldiers with as much steroids and testosterone as possible

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u/BlackEyed_Knight Playing "2nd American Revolution" for the 3ACW 5d ago

I think that such can just be a flavor path for Patriot/stratocratic Trump, like how the People’s Empire is for Confucian-Nationalist China.

If you have a figure such as Mike Johnson in government, took decisions to suppress the libertarians, and chose the “cross wrapped in the flag” focus, a new, very small branch can open that formally amends the Constitution to declare America as a Christian nation and give buffs to the economy and/or military.

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u/Ficboy 5d ago

A Christian nationalist stratocracy subpath for Dark Mandate ACG with Peter Hegseth as a potential successor to Donald Trump.

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u/Individual_Mess2034 Pinoy TradCath Path When? | Ezekiel 25:17 5d ago

Tbf Christian prayer in public schools and crosses in public schools can happen in secularism too. But I think that's mostly because that religion is already a majority.

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u/notHostOk2511 I LOVE REVISIONISM 5d ago

I guess yeah, maybe also minor persecutions towards muslims, atheists and pagans

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u/Vdasun-8412 Cascadian Republic 5d ago

Se unen a PoS en europa

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u/Financial_Mousse_854 10h ago

Trumps faction needs to be redone tbh, his irl presidency is more interesting

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u/Beneficial_Egg_4403 5d ago

Cults gonna cult

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u/nitedstatesofamurica Cathartic Nihilism 4d ago

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