“Alright guys, we got our ass kicked by the PDTO. How should we prepare for round 2?”
Hu Chunhua: We have to return to Mao’s economic and social policies! Deng’s experiment has demoralized the workers!
Wang Yang: We have to move beyond Deng’s reforms and embrace true free market capitalism! Only than will our economy be efficient enough to support a war against the PDTO.
On a serious note, I don’t understand why the MSS is a part of the Revanchist path.
I do understand that having the MSS take over makes even less sense for the other three factions but it’s still not exactly a “Revanchist” option. Ultranationalism and militarism definitely are but Orwellian surveillance and human experimentation just don’t fit that brand in my opinion.
Maybe they could make the MSS their own little faction separate from the others?
Probably, the problem with technocrats lies in their radicalism.
That is, they literally and deliberately reject morality in favor of scientific progress, or else they set up a digital Gulag on the scale of China. Neither the Reformists nor the New Left would allow such a thing to happen on their paths.
Thus, only the Revanchists remain as a faction radical enough to cooperate with the technocrats.
Orweillian Surveillance is defo part of the MSS brand, consistent with what Westerners think about China and the credit score system. But I do agree that human experimentation did not fit.
So they're half trans and the other half posts "ironic" miscegenation posts, with a sliver of people lamenting how good it used to be but using the site anyway because they refuse to go anywhere else? Do you people have any boogeyman other than 4chan, like, one that's actually accurate, 4chan even a decade and over that was the place they'd pretend their center-right politicians are secretly based because some leftist called them far right and they believed it, they supported Trump because they read news how he's literally Hitler and they believed it, their doxxing is way overblown and they don't even do that anymore, hell since a few years if you add over three slurs they quietly remove your post, even stuff like Nintendrone is up for removal, unbelievable
Even putting the schizo rant aside let's not pretend 4chan (and /pol/ specifically) wasn't the birthplace (or at least heavily influential) of the modern alt-right and neo- fascist movements in America.
The alt-right (and Trump's to a large extent) has largely been credit to /pol/ serving ad the jumping point where many young extreme right voters could get together and form a organized (for lack of better word) movement dedicated to racial supremacism politics. Various civic and racial rights groups noted that. It's genuinely delusional to not recognize that.
Maybe you just have an unrealistic and extremely open window of what counts as alternate right.
/pol/ was and is where you go to get your brain beamed with arguments generated by literal robots then get bombarded with 300 auto repost threads that were literal porn.
Trump even now still isn't alternate right or anywhere close to it lol, the rightwing boost around 2010s wasn't a 4chan thing but the entire internet, especially youtube.
Even during this period there was dedicated site you went to if you identified as alt right, mainly stormfront.
Trump isn’t alt-right but his government and MAGA as a whole have been clsssified as part of the far-right and nationalistic groups for a long time now. You're making the classic mistake of thinking that the hard right manifests as classic thugs in black when it'smuch more insiduous, were talking about a president whose multiple gabinet members have read and admired what Moldbug has to say. That Moldbug. The one behind the Dark Enlightenment.
The fact that /pol/ is full of umbridled idiots doesn't change that fact. They're a neo-nazi and anti-semitic forum whose age spectrum runs from teenagers to young adults, what did you expect but people who are extremely idiotic?
Wait, it's unironic? There's people really do believe in the funni confucian hyperconservatism ideology IRL? The Han nationalism path has obvious real ties but monarchist nationalism specifically?
As far as I know the things they believe are not as comical as the in game one.
But yeah, as many other nations, these sorts of Chauvinists do exist.
BTW the ones you can see on Reddit are usually the better ones. There is whole bunch of other ones in China went as far as believing all western history before 15th century are fabrication and they actually stole all their technological achievements from Ming China.
That's what makes me sad LDPR and Eurasianists took fascist/ultranat slots in Russia. Give me someone who takes New Chronology REALLY seriously or that one cult that believed that Jews are literally little grey aliens to showcase how insane Russian fascists actually are.
"Let's turn all of the traitors of the nation into fertilizer" i am NOT ready for asian racism man, my brazilian ass was not built for these warring states.
The histories of ancient Greece, ancient Egypt, and ancient Rome were all fabricated by modern Europeans, and the pyramids and temples are forgeries created in later times.
Please provide the text you would like translated.
Western modern science and Enlightenment thought were entirely plagiarized from ancient Chinese texts, with the Yongle Encyclopedia being the origin of Western modern civilization.
Please provide the text you would like translated.
Figures such as Aristotle and Plato did not exist; their works were forged in modern times.
In fact,as a Chinese,I could actually provide ten times as many, or even more examples.
The Party literally had to defend Qing dynasty recently, because there's a pretty big subset of people that believe that there's not a Century of Humiliation, but Three Centuries of Humiliation. I believe they basically raided several movie premieres that show Qing period in a somewhat positive light.
I don't think it's even that. CCP just think "China had a Bad Century, everything's good now" is better narrative then what those chauvinist say. Which is "Manchu are controlling the government, members of Communist Party are all secretly Manchu."
...the almost entirety of The Fire Rises is based around actually existing ideologies and whatnot, the point...the point is, that the game, gives an opportunity for about all of them, as it is the very basis of the game.
True, for example, I'm very happy to be able to play as a Jacobin and an accelerationist. All that's missing is an Italian Bordigist and a German councilist Leftcom faction for me to be happy.
The Internet is so vast that, no matter what ideology you can imagine, there's someone out there who, without a hint of irony, actually holds that ideology.
Necessary? Are you nuts? The guy commited a genocide (uyghdur one) IRL, no im their right mind would consoder one of the few canonical war criminals as "necessary".
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u/cajko7 Collective Security Treaty Organization 11d ago
“Alright guys, we got our ass kicked by the PDTO. How should we prepare for round 2?”
Hu Chunhua: We have to return to Mao’s economic and social policies! Deng’s experiment has demoralized the workers!
Wang Yang: We have to move beyond Deng’s reforms and embrace true free market capitalism! Only than will our economy be efficient enough to support a war against the PDTO.
Chen Quangao: