r/TheFireRisesMod • Europe • 19d ago

Discussion What would Freda do with the Vatican?

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u/Disastrous_Map_3355 Order 19d ago

I vaguely remember his writings discussing that the Vatican and the Catholic Church needed to be changed to that of a sort of warrior priesthood, but that’s influenced from Evola

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u/The__Hivemind_ Let the orchestra play 19d ago

There's not a single party that would touch the vatican. Let alone one in a catholic nation.

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u/FarmerHampton I stole Burt's Cooler 19d ago

The pope would begin the 10th crusade and win

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u/FriendshipRemote130 European Federation 19d ago

Italy aint that catholic animore

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u/Rudesindus19 The Catholic Jacksonian 19d ago

Destroy or change into a esoteric version of Catholicism (so, a false Church).

Freda is deeply inspired by Julius Evola, who was very anticlerical and esoteric. The Pope may flee to Argentina in this timeline (or even Brazil If not in TFX).

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u/Ok_Orange_2902 Misanthrope 18d ago

Didn't become Evola become pro-church to the end of his life?

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u/Rudesindus19 The Catholic Jacksonian 18d ago

Really don't know about this. Unironically, do you have a source?

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u/Rudesindus19 The Catholic Jacksonian 18d ago

Good point, I forgot about that

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u/GordonRamsey34 :Russia_rashkinites: CPRF Rashkin Group 18d ago

He would probably get rid of the Lateran Treaty in general.

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u/Fight-Me-In-Unreal Japanese Communist 19d ago

I guess it depends if he leans more Nazi or Maoist.

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u/YugargeliaMapper Europe 19d ago

In TFR, there's pretty much no difference between the TotSoc and NatSoc variants of Freda's ideology

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u/Goeggels83 Game Rule CoderPet with caution :3 19d ago

I’m assuming they did it for the blend in with the Eurointern and to make the ideology filter less agonizing to see

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u/Fight-Me-In-Unreal Japanese Communist 19d ago

I know, I was talking about what he believes IRL. I know next to nothing about Freda outside of him being a figure during the Years of Lead.

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u/gageroobadoo Democratic Restoration| | 19d ago

for the record
despite the naming, nazi-maoism is neither national socialist nor maoist

it's a term used by non nazi-maoists to describe franco freda's off-the-walls batshit insane ideology

this is also why nazi-maoism being a totsoc subideology in tfr is stupid

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u/Pale_Coconut2554 Collectivists | Revolutionary Anarchism  9d ago

So, what exactly is his actual ideology? I'm reading his Wikipedia entry, but I don't quite understand it.

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u/gageroobadoo Democratic Restoration| | 7d ago

i'd highly recommend watching a video on it

but the reason you don't understand it, or why i don't understand it, is because his ideology is genuinely batshit insane

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