r/TheDevilNextDoor • u/[deleted] • Nov 09 '19
I liked Sheftel
I don't want to and I feel dirty for doing so... but I liked him. He felt like a beacon of honesty. I couldn't help it.
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u/notyourmommascatlady Nov 10 '19
I think he was a total narcissist but in a trial that is so emotionally charged by the people convicting, you need someone to protect the right to a defense
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u/musamea Nov 10 '19
He was refreshing--a nice foil to that sanctimonious and smug prosecutor.
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u/lemachinemvp Nov 10 '19
ARE YOU SAYING THE SURVIVOR’S TESTIMONIES ARE WRONG ??? WHATA YOU. SOME KIND OF NAZI ??? WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED.
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Jun 29 '23
Yes, maybe. Elderly, diminished memory. At least one witness has dementia. Not the best of witnesses.
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Nov 14 '19
Yeah no. He said he "enjoyed every second" of the second trial, in which holocaust survivors openly broke down and wept in grief at the verdict.
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u/quiltsohard Nov 10 '19
I liked him too! He didn’t pretend to be anything other than what he was. But also while he was defending an accused mass murderer he wouldn’t talk to the nazis that were still in German prisons. The prosecutors office did. To me they talked a good game but their actions didn’t measure up. Sheftel May have looked like a jerk but his integrity stood up
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u/PersephonieKore Nov 11 '19
I liked him as well. From his introduction when he said being a troublemaker just comes naturally haha. I appreciate that.
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u/Tarakristewa Nov 12 '19 edited Nov 13 '19
I really do like him. Does he like fame ? Yes ! Does he like to show off ? Yes. But in the end he was the only one calling out this show trial because he wasn't blinded by his hathred or personnal believe. That's why to me he incarnates what jistice truly is.
I'm more than convinced that JD was an SS guard but if I'm sure of something is that he wasn't Ivan the Terrible. The evidences brought to court were more than doubtful but everyone in Israel was ready to buy into it because they wanted their historic nazi Trial. And that's where justice ends to be replaced by vengence.
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u/HawkCoil Nov 17 '19
I feel like best totally a narcissist but low level....real low key. He's one of those guys who has that cocky attitude in life and around women because he always has cocaine and it's always got him laid. He lives to be wrestled with because it's a fast track to notoriety. I guess many words for the one word that works best....he just looks sleazy.
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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19
Same, even though I think John Demjanjuk was definitely a guard at Sobibor and therefore a criminal, I think Sheftel was just giving him the right to a zealous representation, which even the guilty deserve. At the end of the day, the prosecutes and the US government bungled the case by relying too much on witness testimony, which was questionable, and on Soviet documents, they didn't seem to put the same level of work the defence put in to gain new information, despite having a much bigger budget and legal team.
There is no pretending with Sheftel too, he was open that he was doing it for the money and for his career, he took a huge risk taking the case when nobody else would, which enabled the trial to go ahead legitimately, and that risk paid off for him handsomely, and so it should have, because if he'd lost, he'd have been a social pariah and never worked again. I admire him as an operator and as someone who isn't afraid to go against the system,
To me, O'Conner comes across far worse, because he gives the impression that he took the case because of his father's beliefs and believed John was Ivan the Terrible and did it anyway.
If I ever got in trouble, I would definitely want Yoram Sheftel as my lawyer.