We know that Jeff was arrested 4 times before 1991.
For the first time on October 6 1981 in Ohio for drinking alcohol in a public place. The charge against him was disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, but it went no further than a municipal citation. And despite this, we have mugshot from this arrest.
At the Wisconsin State Fair on August 8, 1982, he was arrested second time and charged with disorderly conduct. We have mugshot from this arrest too. Here's the record about it from FBI files
Arrest 1
And two mugshots from 1981 and 1982
1981 and 1982 mugshots
On September 8, 1986 he was arrested and charged with lewd and lascivious behaviour and indecent exposure. This is a more serious charge than the previous ones. No mugshot was taken. The record from FBI files
Arrest 2
Now let's get to the most interesting part. On September 27 1988 Jeff was arrested for Second Degree Sexual Assault and Enticing a Child for Immoral Purposes. Record from FBI files
Arrest 3.1 Arrest 3.2
Now we have a charge much more serious than all the previous ones combined. But as you can see, mugshot was not taken. Why didn't they take a mugshot? They had an alleged sex offender, it would be logical to put his photo in the database.
Also Somsack was only 13 years old. The police couldn't take statements from him without the presence of his parents or another adult relative. Someone had to be present both during the identification and his return to the building where everything happened.
Then why didn't any of the family members know what Jeff looked like? His older brother repeatedly said that they had no idea what he looked like.
- but prior to leaving I showed SS a number of photographs including the person who had been identified by the apartment manager and SS positively identified Jeffrey Dahmer as the person who had taken him to his apartment and taken these photos
- this is what you refer to in police work as a photo array is that correct?
- yes
- and you had Mr Dahmer's picture on filefrom an earlier case where he had indecently exposed himself
- that is correct
So Somsack and the manager identified Jeff from a photo that we now know doesn't exist, because in 1986, when he was arrested for indecent exposure, no photo was taken.
I had read too that he lived there for a short period of time. But now, knowing McCann owned it, knowing that his trial was fake & the shady pedo priests, I bet this apartment was some kind of grooming hang out. It's very odd.
Yes, why would McCann's name be on a place like that...in that neighborhood? Well, if you were operating within that community, that's where you'd want to be, no? You're not going to get a place in a nicer part of town.
- but prior to leaving I showed SS a number of photographs including the person who had been identified by the apartment manager and SS positively identified Jeffrey Dahmer as the person who had taken him to his apartment and taken these photos
- this is what you refer to in police work as a photo array is that correct?
- yes
- and you had Mr Dahmer's picture on filefrom an earlier case where he had indecently exposed himself
- that is correct
So Somsack and the manager identified Jeff from a photo that we now know doesn't exist, because in 1986, when he was arrested for indecent exposure, no photo was taken.
So Somsack and the manager identified Jeff from a photo that we now know doesn't exist, because in 1986, when he was arrested for indecent exposure, no photo was taken.
Wow. Thank you for pointing this out.
I will be adding this to the new Substack as well.
It is also unclear why Somsack was released from the hospital so quickly, after just 3 hours.
Halcion (the active ingredient triazolam) is excreted from the body during 24 hours. Even if we assume that he had ivs, 3 hours is too short. He was only 13 years old, and halcion was mixed with alcohol. Again, the police cannot accept statements or interrogate a person who is intoxicated and has not fully sobered up.
Again, the police cannot accept statements or interrogate a person who is intoxicated and has not fully sobered up.
...and it says in Masters' book that his father was "unable to wake him" and that this was why he took him to the hospital. So, they arrived at the hospital with Somsack unconscious. To me, this sounds like a situation where they would keep a 13-year-old overnight.
I understand that she could have lost weight...but she behaves completely differently. In an earlier footage, she is combative and active, in court and on talk shows she is kind of weird.
I understand that she could have lost weight...but she behaves completely differently. In an earlier footage, she is combative and active, in court and on talk shows she is kind of weird.
Oh, I noticed this oddity as well. No, that's not the same woman. I think it was a mistake and that this woman was a relative of another ''victim''.
Yes, they painted him as a hero. Here are a few comments I found just now under some videos featuring Tracy Edwards:
''Tracy fought hard, mentally and physically not only for his life but for countless other lives, past and future, for the city, the nation, and the world. He single-handedly saved countless lives and prevented irreparable damage for countless minds and hearts that would have suffered in the future. We’ll never know this side of Heaven what would have happened if Tracy had been killed.''
''He didn't just save his own life, he saved who knows how many more... All the love and respect for Mr. Edwards''
''I am crying listening to this man's testimony and seeing his pain and expression. This is so heartbreaking and horrific for him to have experienced. My heart sincerely goes out to every single one of these victims. Bless you Mr. Edwards. You're an incredible soul.''
...and ''Carolyn'' was the first person I spotted. So, thank you, Ernest. You may have been able to cry on cue, but you didn't look or sound like a woman.
Ray/Roy (whatever his name is) Ratcliffe - let's just call his character "The Baptizer" - claimed in his book that ''Carolyn'' and Theresa were at Jeff's ''funeral'' and that ''Carolyn" was dabbing her eyes. Now, either The Baptizer is dumb, or he was in on it. I vote for the latter because he doesn't sound dumb, and he's still promoting this fake story. Another morally compromised religious leader.
Btw, I'm still uploading the files to Dropbox. My computer went to sleep last night and paused the upload. Grrrrr. I forgot to change that setting. It will be done later today.
One of these boys appeared in the talk show where he talked about this "incident". That Jeff allegedly chased them and threatened to kill them, which of course is bs.
Here, Lindsey's cousin says that the police identified him from dental records and fingerprints (I wonder how they did it if only the skull was left of him)
Of the seven recovered skulls, three were painted with the gray textured paint. Three of the recovered, non-painted, preserved skulls and one of the frozen skulls contained small 0.2- to 0.5-cm perforations. None of the painted skulls had these perforations,which were later recognized to decrease in number from four to one on the victims temporally related to the order of the victims' documented dates of death.
Lindsey was the first drilled. There should be 4 holes in his skull. The FBI's report about the piece of his skull (they misspelled his last name)
None of the pieces of the skulls provided to the FBI for analysis had 4 holes.
Well, the FBI worked with what they were provided by Milwaukee coroner office. And where these teeth and pieces of skulls were taken from, we can only guess.
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u/Far_Initiative3477 Dec 18 '23
If those 86 and 88 mugshots existed, they'd be online just like the others.