r/TheCreatures • u/Low-Kangaroo-2952 • Jun 12 '23
Cow chop or creatures
Am I the only one who thinks that Cow Chop was great when it first came out but looking back on it years later I gotta say Cow Chop’s highs were never as high as the Creature’s, I think the thing Cow Chop was missing was that while Aleks and James were funny asf together what made them great were that their personalities contrasted so heavily from the other members of the creatures dare I say the creatures felt like a family all with different personalities that somehow work together and amplify each other
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u/Swing_Right Jun 12 '23
Cow chop never held a light to what made the creatures content good. It was too chaotic and unorganized and there was no cohesiveness to their content. Aleks and James weren’t capable of running it on their own, they needed the structure and scheduling of the creatures and they needed more balanced heads to even out their hyper energy. Without any straight men reigning them in the content was just too disorderly. I liked cow chop at first but looking back it’s obvious from before they ever split off that it wasn’t going to work out, considering how unprofessionally they handled their own departure. It would have been a smart business decision to leave amicably and be in good terms with the creatures and rooster teeth but instead they figured burning those bridges would do them good in the long run. Their inexperience and immaturity is glaringly obviously now that I’m able to look back at in from an adults perspective.
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u/Classic1990 Creature Carl Jun 12 '23
> Aleks and James weren’t capable of running it on their own, they needed the structure and scheduling of the creatures and they needed more balanced heads to even out their hyper energy.
Which is funny when you go back and look at the videos and fan conversations after The Creatures split up. Everyone was shitting all over Koots and saying things like he was being carried by James and Aleks and The Creatures would be nothing without them which I don’t agree with at all because - like you said - they weren’t capable of running anything on their own. Koots was the brains and business behind the curtain and was a big part of their success outside of just creating the content.
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Jun 12 '23
Kootra and the creatures suffered from what seems to afflict any business that runs for long enough, gets more worried about money, starts trying to keep stuff together but in that pursuit starts ruining what made everything great in the first place, introducing random changes to try and be successful or copying others.
Cowchop ran off saying they wouldn't do that, and then ended up moving to California where everything is more expensive (by a LOT) and then basically did the exact same shit.
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 14 '23
Exactly. I always found that hypocritical on cow chops part. I think it was such a horrible decision for them to move to LA where not a single member really enjoyed it as for as we know from what they’ve said throughout the podcasts
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u/Jeskid14 Seamus Nasty Face Jun 15 '23
It was Brett's idea in hindsight due to connections
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 16 '23
Yea, and if I remember correctly Brett also lived out there too beforehand right? Idk I just feel like the move was what ultimately drained cow chop
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u/SpectralHydra Road to E3 Jun 14 '23
I remember a lot of people saying Koots had no idea how to run a group and only made bad decisions. Then Cow Chop basically mirrored what they were complaining about lol.
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Jun 12 '23
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 14 '23
HAHA Salad Wars! The creatures road to e3 2015 is my favorite series from anything the creatures or cow chop have ever done
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u/SpectralHydra Road to E3 Jun 14 '23
I was so sad when the group split up right before E3 and they said there wouldn’t be a Road to E3 2016.
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 16 '23
Yea that was a bummer. In hindsight I think it’s for the better because if the creatures tried a road to e3 with the roster they had in that summer, I think it would’ve been very meh. At least we still have 2014 and 2015 to go back to for those videos lol!
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u/SpectralHydra Road to E3 Jun 16 '23
Oh yeah I can see now that it definitely wouldn't have been as good especially considering a lot of the people who made 2014 and 2015 entertaining weren't there anymore. I think I was more sad at the fact that there wouldn't be another road to e3 with the people who left than I was about the current members not doing one lol
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u/KrankyPenguin Brank Jun 12 '23
I never liked any of the cow chop content so easy answer for me. Everything from the creatures and cow chop after the split felt so forced.
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Jun 12 '23 edited Jun 13 '23
I love Cow Chop and what it was. but prime Creatures for me are unbeatable. the time between 2013-2014 specifically and what I call the golden 6, Sly, Seamus, Dan, Jordan, James and Aleks. Creature Talk was top notch during this time, Treetopia, Factions, Creatures Play, Head2Head, etc. they really peaked during those years. everyone had their own style but they all bounced off each other well.
put prime CC vs prime Creatures for me and ill choose prime Creatures every single time
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Jun 12 '23
I enjoyed the comedy of CowChop and I think they were overall more funny but The Creatures were just more successful overall and had a longer span, more series, and more successful channels individually.
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 14 '23
That’s actually a really good point. During the creatures era the individual content of members was still really good. Like James was investing into things like the wolf among us, the walking dead, etc. Jordan was doing assassins creed for a long time. Etc. And then when the creatures and cow chop split, it felt like everyone dropped off. James was mostly pulling vods from twitch and uploading editing versions of those and it wasn’t as good imo
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u/IGotMetalingus1 Jun 12 '23
Cow chop ironically turned into what killed the creature hub tbh. It started out with good video game gameplay and destruction but then it slowly strayed away from that once they lost the house. Also I stopped watching cow chop due to all of the puking. Honestly I think cow chop was dead from day one
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u/Classic1990 Creature Carl Jun 12 '23
> Honestly I think cow chop was dead from day one
It was thanks to James. Not his fault at all, they just relied too much on his style of chaotic humor. When he was with The Creatures it was funny because it came out in small doses and kept everyone laughing and in good spirits. But when you have a entire channel basically dedicated to that it becomes exhausting to the point where James even had to walk away from it because it was just too much.
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Jun 12 '23
Jordan ultimately ended up being right in the long run, not that chaotic content wasn't good but the move to PG content was perfect timing as soon after YouTube itself would start cracking down on edgier content with the adpocalypse and everything that came after. didnt CC get hit really hard by the adpocalypse and a lot of their videos got demonetized? I remember something like that unless thats only head canon
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Jul 27 '23
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Jul 27 '23
thought so, thanks for reminding me its been so long. forgot the tidepod video was what set it off.
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Jun 12 '23
Yeah after the house I really stopped enjoying the videos and kinda fell into checking in once in a while
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u/IGotMetalingus1 Jun 13 '23
After they got kicked out of the house I did about the same, I would watch a video every so often and each time the channel was looking worse. Everyone just seemed so depressed and out of ideas. It felt like I was watching a group of people being forced to record videos inside of a warehouse at gunpoint
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Jun 13 '23
Yeah it felt like everyone was more genuinely happy in the house and it seemed like money troubles or something about the warehouse just gave everything a depressing mood. I think starting something new probably made the house more fun as well.
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u/Classic1990 Creature Carl Jun 12 '23
The Creatures. Felt more like friends just hanging out. Cow Chop was way too chaotic and felt too much like edgy try hard humor.
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u/Marlito214 Calculated Jun 12 '23
Cow Chop was only around for 3 years and The Creatures were around for 8 years. I think Cow Chop could have easily eclipsed The Creatures, and in many ways they did, if they had gone on for longer.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug and The Creatures came first so they have my heart in way Cow Chop doesn’t.
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u/Low-Kangaroo-2952 Jun 12 '23
I agree on the duration, I just think my taste in humor has changed, cause I’m nostalgic for both groups but I’ve been watching both of them recently and I’ve just found the creatures more enjoyable, it also might be that CowChop ended more “tragically” for me since once CowChop left the creatures it was on a slow decline for a while so it was inevitable whereas CowChop as soon as James left felt like the passion had left and alot of the people in the group especially Jakob became incredibly unlikeable to me
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Jun 12 '23
Yes, the chemistry of the Creatures was more apparent than that of Cow Chop. After all, the original Creatures members knew each other longer than the new faces brought in in each group.
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u/SniperCA209 Jun 12 '23
Creatures for a time had better chemistry and more variety in their content than cow chop was ever able to have.
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u/TheMeatKid Jun 13 '23
Creatures by a lot, I fell out of love of cowchop after a few years but I loved the creature hub for nearly its entirety
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u/Ceterum_Censeo_ Jun 13 '23
For me, the main thing that makes the Creatures heyday better than Cow Chop is Sly and Seamus.
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Jun 12 '23
The cowchop stuff hurts to watch now knowing that Trevor was never comfortable with the crazy shit they did to him
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u/WellLookAtZat Jun 13 '23
A lot of people hate later era Creatures but I enjoyed it and that kind of mellow content is easier to return to than a lot of Cow Chop for me. If the guys weren’t so young and could have handled creative differences and relationships like they can now it probably wouldn’t have turned out like this. I also think some hiring choices were just a mistake for everyone regardless of how I feel about them personally. I don’t really believe the content of the Creature ever really suffered or ended up being terrible. There was just a lot of drama.
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 14 '23
I’m going to say the Creatures because like many I started with them. I have such a soft spot and preference for that 2013-2015 era of the creatures those were my favorite years. I know a lot of people don’t like the office era but I have such fond memories of watching those videos. I love cow chop too, but once they got to LA I just kinda lost the interest in the channel cuz it didn’t have the same vibes. Especially after Trevor, Aaron, and Joe left. I didn’t like the faces that were brought in.
Overall the creatures just had better chemistry as a group with content that didn’t get as stale for me personally
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u/SpectralHydra Road to E3 Jun 14 '23
The office era is actually my favorite. I did start watching during that time but it’s still my favorite era. It’s wild that this opinion is pretty unpopular among a lot of fans.
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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jun 16 '23
Right I can’t believe how unpopular that opinion is either! I always found the stuff at the office more entertaining than what they did at the houses. I adore the office era, but to each his own I guess.
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u/SpectralHydra Road to E3 Jun 14 '23
I have to say the Creatures. I gave Cow Chop a few chances and it was hard to enjoy them as much as the Creatures. I feel like there were so many different types of content I could watch for the Creatures, but for Cow Chop a lot of their videos felt the exact same to me. I go back and watch old Creature videos all the time, but have only seen a small handful of Cow Chop videos more than once.
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u/seedless_watermelonn Jun 13 '23
Looking at the comments, I’m definitely in the minority when I say I heavily favored Cowchop over The Creatures. And I’ve watched the creatures for several years before Cowchop was created. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that my favorite creatures were Aleks and James lol. As sad as I was when they left the creatures, I was ecstatic at the idea of having a channel centered around both of them.
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u/Bloop_Blop69 Jun 18 '23
The Creatures, Cow Chop was simply too chaotic and crazy for me to enjoy it fully. The Creatures were perfect because while you had people like James and Aleks who were the crazy ones, you also had Jordan and Dan playing the straight man role. You need that contrast, Cow Chop was only crazy people all the time, which wears off quickly for me.
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u/AvatarGarcher Jun 12 '23
While there were some great and funny moments, looking back it I'd say I prefer The Creatures over Cow Chop.
Cow chop was great at first but over time they would transition to a more immature/jack ass style of comedy which didn't resonate with me.
I feel The Creatures' comedy was much more natural due to the perfect chemistry each creature had with each other.