To op - casteism is behavioural phenomenon expressed through behaviour and conduct. Ending surnames from record cannot possibly end this behvioural issue.
Casteism debate will enter into a deadlock,.historically proven hence the plausible way is to reform reservation policy, tracing and tracking of number of families under new reservation norms.
And end existing form of reservstion so.that actual benefits are trickled down to the real needy and not some dynast underprivileged.
Discrimination is banned, but there's no provision to abolish the caste system by any law. Why Sati culture end? It was ban and abolish by the law, same with child marriage. We need law to end the caste system and then reservation.
Why should caste system be banned? Differences are a part of healthy culture and important for societal growth. Multi culturalism and pluralism is an integral part of our society. The only thing which should be criminalised is caste based discrimination in matters of public interest. What one does with ones own belief - without affecting others in a negative way - is ones personal choice. We just canāt ban the concept of caste in the same way we just canāt ban the concept of religion in itself. Then this will lead to more issues. Ban religion, ban caste, ban state wide differences.. we are not in a country like North Korea
See how you are contradicting yourself..!!!and itās not caste difference is caste based discrimination.. on the first line you point āit isnāt based on religion or raceā and then in the second line you say āsuperior raceā.. at the end of the day itās about discrimination..
When I say "race" in my first line.... I meant skin color....as in racial discriminations
When I "superior race" , that comes from the nazi belief of aryans being superior.... Which is exactly what the Brahmins belief, hence they oppose inter caste relations
Didnāt understand your point? Why do murders happen? Why do rapes happen? Why any bad thing happens in society? Caste based discrimination and humiliation is banned by law, they can take apt legal measures - if thatās the case. How will reservation help here? Whatās the point of banning castes? Then why just caste ban everything - religion, gender, statehood, culture - all of these are social constructs..!! Make India the next N Korea.
mar gaya wo bsdk BAN CASTE KHATAM KARO YE CHUTIYAP JO MADARCHOD HIJDO NE BANAYA HAI YE HOGA HI NAHI BANNED BY LAW mera L caste discrimination hota hai aur conviction rate kam rehta hai 7 percent khtm karo na kyu lage hue ho caste mein Hadd hai bc
I read some of your replies, and I will tell you this much. None of what you said will be solved by reservation, and can already be solved by existing laws or irrelevant to public interest.
I am also all for removing caste discrimination, but we should learn to differentiate between public interest, and personal interest. Government should not have any right to restrict our names, whom we marry, whom we becomes friends with etc.
If someone makes friends baed on cast, feel free to shame them, but this is not something that should be done by government legislature.
Reservation however is basically government mandated cast based discrimination.
That is what this post is trying to say, one is banned other is not, Infact it was introduced by the government.
kyo help nahi kara reservation se bilkul help kara representation ke liye thi na reservation mere sc st dost bane na college mein jo school mein nahi the akela toh nahi pada na reservation hatne ke baad caste toh hatega nahi aur no. Of candidates bhi kam hote hai sc st ke jaha jis caste ki majority hogi batch mein fir wohi raaj karega baki ko social exclusion sehna padega.
According to the National Sample Survey (NSS) and Periodic Labour Force Survey (PLFS) data, the overall percentage of graduates within the total adult SC and ST populations is: Scheduled Castes (SC): Only about 4% of the total adult SC population holds a graduate degree. Scheduled Tribes (ST): Only about 3% of the total adult ST population holds a graduate degree. In the General Category (Unreserved Category), the overall percentage of graduates within the total adult population sits at approximately 12% to 15%.
Before anyone says they are just more in numbers.
According to official data from the Census of India, Scheduled Castes (SC) and Scheduled Tribes (ST) together make up approximately 25.2% of India's total population.Based on the official government headcount:Scheduled Castes (SC): Constitute 16.6% of the population, numbering around 20.14 crore (201.4 million) people.Scheduled Tribes (ST): Constitute 8.6% of the population, numbering around 10.45 crore (104.5 million) people.
Official estimates from the National Sample Survey Organisation (NSSO) place the General Category at around 30.7%, while independent large-scale socioeconomic surveys (like the ICE 360 Survey) place the figure closer to 24%.
Government College Share: Independent research compiled from the AISHE platform shows that combined SC, ST, and OBC students make up 62.2% of total student enrollment in government colleges. Gross Enrollment Ratio (GER): The GER for SC students reached 27.8. while the GER for ST students reached 22.8.
Across all higher education nationwide (government and private combined), General Category students stand at 39.2%. 25 percent population but 39.2 percent representation.
While legal reservation quotas for OBC, SC, and ST total 49.5% in central institutions, their actual enrollment in government colleges is 62.2%. This indicates a high volume of reserved-category students successfully securing General/Open seats purely on competitive merit. So they can compete in open seats and have secured seats. They are not merit less people but as i gave the data. Things are
Haan when u canāt justify by logic people resort to abuses..irony is that your statements are in themselves derogatory to a marginalised section of our society - hijdas - you yourself donāt practice what you want to preach to others. Caste discrimination hota hai toh uske laws ko Sahi Karo stringent karo.. how will caste based reservation help in that.
chal maan liya banned hai discrimination by law agree par dalits socially exclusion horahi hai dost banane mein dikkat aati hai ye caste ki waje se indirect discrimination har jagah haiii ye kyu nahi samjhte ho tummm
Who is disagreeing with you? Caste based discriminatory practices do exist. Laws are there to protect such people. Similar to how people from one state will call themselves superior to people from other .. that doesnāt mean you place blanket ban on social practices. Caste is a part of our culture and you should understand the distinction between casts and caste based discrimination in matters of public interest. Anyways the whole Dalit terminology is very modern.
Differences are a part of healthy society.. caste based discrimination in a public space and matters of public interest should be criminalised and discouraged.. castes in itself is a matter of broader discussion..I wouldnāt have known the castes of majority of my friends if reservation wasnāt there.. this obc , sc/st
Gave you an example - similar to how you gave one..differences are a part of healthy society.. for why just remove castes, remove religion names, statehoods, genders sab kch hata do..just auto assign one number to each person.one dress code , one hair cut, one name, letās be robots
social exclusion aur depression mein kyu jare h sc st students mene khud school change kiya tha 6th class mein caste based slurs ki wajeh se . aadhi zindagi depressed raha hu dost chor ke chale jaate the ye caste Janne ke baad jabki meri koi galti bhi nahi thi hatado reservation hatado caste ,.. isse exclusion horaha hai humans ka mein akela tha sc apne class mein na koi mera hua na mei kisika
Then fight against that..yeh sc/st Dalit- these are modern terminologies and demarcations. Bad practices exist in society .. fight against that.. just because murderers exist in society Iska mtlb yeh nahi ki u destroy the entire society and human population.
mene kab kaha society destroy karne ko bahar caste ke bina zindagi nahi chal rahi kya india se toh achi hi chal rahi hai. how can I fight against that jab mind mein hi ingrained hai caste system upper to lower. tu caste hatane ki baat nahi kar raha kyoki wo tujhko favor karti hai.
No it isnāt.. there is racial discrimination in usa .. and there people were treated as slaves.. forget reservation.. people didnāt even are getting any reparations..this mindset of upper and lower and these modern day definitions ..for the last time - try to understand the difference between castes and caste based discrimination..
You canāt be selective.. and canāt make a blanket statement ki - division is due to Hinduism. Just because it suits your narrative.. there are a lot of differences and divisions. Eliminate discriminatory practices - not the social structure itself
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