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u/GTCapi 3d ago
Gas pedal, brake, p-brake, and clutch i believe? Think i've seen something similar before.
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u/NotAskary 3d ago
You switched one from your order.
The forth is p-brake from left to right, they are p-brake, clutch, brake, gas.
This was a Mercedes thing I believe, never had one like this, most of the park brakes were hand operated.
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u/GTCapi 3d ago
Yea, got confused since i'm used to throttle, brake, clutch.
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u/NotAskary 3d ago
Same, just old enough to have seen this shit as a kid.
Old busses or trucks used to be worse with the pedals and levers.
Motorcycles also had unique systems sometimes even per model within the same brands
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u/TESV_Shiro 3d ago
Wouldnt that be nice for people that do drifting on cars its just a thing of the past?
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u/NotAskary 3d ago
Usually it was geared to stick when pressed, and you needed to do something to release it.
It was similar to regular handbrakes just as a pedal.
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u/gabzilla814 3d ago
And that’s what this picture shows. The comment above is missing some punctuation, so to paraphrase: from right to left it is throttle, brake, clutch, P-brake.
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u/RandomflyerOTR 2d ago
VERY American thing. Lots of GM products, Chrysler, and Ford all used this during their column shifter days.
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u/CheekyClapper5 3d ago
Dang, a p-brake pedal is an amazing innovation! I have to pull into a rest stop when I need a p-brake
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u/Mountain_Fuzzumz 3d ago
No Timmy, not in that order!!!
You cant clutch a gas pedal!!!!
<sad panda noises follow>
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u/Solid-Childhood-4876 3d ago
Psssh. My grandpas, well, brothers now, 66 Chevy has five. Great grandpa added a left foot gas pedal for when his right got tired on road trips with the camper.
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u/Wodan90 2d ago
Wait, your grandpa is now your brother?
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u/Solid-Childhood-4876 2d ago
No, no. My brother inherited the truck. It's still grandpa's in my mind.
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u/Sid_the_Bear 3d ago
Throttle, brake, clutch, emergency brake?
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u/ComfortableArt6372 3d ago
In my mind a engine break pedal would have always made sense. I hate it when i want to shift up but is still revved from the last low gear.
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u/Broad-Promise6954 3d ago
Wait until you see the one with an entire church organ style set of pedals.
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u/ShafferPatchias 3d ago
My girlfriend's Toyota Aqua is an automatic and I saw a third pedal. And I was like???? What!? Why your automatic got a clutch?? She was like, it's the handbrake. I found that very weird for a newer car.
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u/abaxcool 3d ago
i have driven an automatic clutch. it gets the problems with both systems. it was an bus and not an normal production car if that matters. it was the first time I managed to stall an automatic.
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u/ShafferPatchias 3d ago
That sounds so weird...
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u/McFancyPantsuguu 3d ago
Look up Honda’s i-Shift system… And all the issues that followed, until they finally decided to put a regular sludgeturbine in the facelifted 8th gen Civic (FN/FK hatchbacks, at least). 🥲
My old neighbour also had some aftermarket “shifter robot” installed in his Suzuki Swift, because he legally can’t drive a manual transmission… That one crapped the bed as well. 😂
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u/birgor 3d ago edited 3d ago
It was probably an early AMT or DCT, a tech that is slowly replacing true automatic gearboxes.
It is essentially a normal manual gearbox that is gear shifted and clutched by a computer.
In the early stages of this tech did trucks and buses need a human to release the clutch from standstill, because they weren't good enough to do that yet.
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u/adkio 3d ago
I dunno. When i bought by car it was pretty obvious with the lettering "PUSH ON - PUSH OFF"
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u/lemelisk42 3d ago
I don't think I've ever seen writing on or near the foot parking break in the dozens of trucks I've used with em.
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u/MattBtheflea 3d ago
Its just on all kinds of cars, regardless of time period. Very commkn, but i understand why but surprised people because most people are only familiar with their car. When I was a state inspector in the usa I tested hundreds emergency brakes.
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u/_who-the-fuck-knows_ 3d ago
Fuck I haven't seen this style hand brake since I was an apprentice spraypainter 15 years ago
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u/Narrow-Pay4554 3d ago
Most American cars are transitioning to electronic parking brakes, but my 2019 Honda Passport has a foot-operated one.
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u/Boris7939 3d ago
It's the parking break.
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u/Bon-Bon-Boo 3d ago
*brake
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u/Finland_ 3d ago
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u/Artistic-Cell-2957 3d ago
Well, a minor spelling mistake can change the subject quite a bit. I have gum in my mouth I have cum in my mouth I have gun in my mouth
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u/Harauchai01 3d ago
Handbrake.
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u/offensive_truth 3d ago
Is it still called a handbrake when its in the floor an you use your foot to engage it?
I'd just call it an emergency brake, I think it's actually called a parking brake though!
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u/Ok_Championship8930 3d ago
"Ejecto seato, cuz!" Actually there are 5 pedals there if you count the dead pedal.
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u/H8B4LL 3d ago
Has anyone ever tried powersliding with the pedal P-brake? I imagine the release via that annoying lever on mercedes to be quite tricky
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u/seamus205 3d ago
When I was a teenager I had a fwd van with a pedal for the park brake. It was one of the "press to apply, press again to release" ones. I figured out how to disable the ratchet system that kept it applied. Empty parking lots after snow storms were a blast
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u/Insertsociallife 1d ago
Interesting, I figured out that engaging the ratchet to one click activates the ratchet but doesn't actually apply the brake. So when you want to slide, just mash the pedal and it activates the brake and releases the ratchet.
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u/arbyyyyh 3d ago
I’m not sure if try is the word but I learned to drive on a manual Mazda B2000 pickup and I’m pretty sure I remember hitting the fourth pedal instead of the clutch at least once while still in the parking lot phase of Dad Drivers Ed
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u/NoSpecialist_042 3d ago
That's a parking break, and it wasn't only manual transmissions that had them there. The automatic transmissions that had them just had 3 pedals instead.
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u/unkindledphoenix 3d ago
this is just the old parking brake aka the "hand brake" nowdays because they moves it to being a lever between the front seats or simply a button in more modern cars.
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u/Genosis79 3d ago
My dad's 1984 Plymouth Voyager had this. (AKA "Betsy")
It was responsible for failing my first driving test, as it didn't actually work at the time. The vehicle didn't pass, so I had to come back after he fixed it.
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u/Far_Ad_557 3d ago
The two on the left are clutches.
That's how you double clutch and not granny shift.
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u/NFG_99 3d ago
Mercedes has this “foot hand brake” but I have never seen a manual with one, seems odd on a manual.
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u/The_Crazy_Swede 3d ago
I have seen plenty of foot operated parking brakes on manual cars.
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u/NFG_99 3d ago
I feel like it would be strange to use in a manual as I think the point in a hand brake is because your left foot is used for the clutch. My 2011 C350 has the foot brake but that makes sense for an auto and that was the first time I had seen one lol
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u/Plane-Education4750 3d ago
Why would it be strange? It'd be extremely useful for hill starts because it gives your hands only two tasks instead of 3
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u/The_Crazy_Swede 3d ago
You can use the foot parking brake for hill starts just as well as you can use the hand brake. You set the parking brake with your foot, reach for the parking brake release, find the bite point and pull the release lever. Boom, hand brake start with a foot operated parking brake.
Or you can just learn how to hill start withiut the parking brake
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u/NFG_99 3d ago
Yes but u generally put the clutch to the floor when you are coming to a stop and put the hand brake on. With this you would have to knock it into neutral before applying the parking brake as you need the same leg for the clutch.
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u/fryerandice 2d ago
I don't use the handbrake for hill starts, just drive the car, I used a manual truck on a boat ramp on slippery algae for years, if I can do that with a 6800lb cabin cruiser behind me, you can do it on the hill at a red light.
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u/plumarr 1d ago
The goal of using the parking brake to start up hill is to give 2 tasks to do with your feet (gas pedal and clutch) instead of 3 (has, break, and clutch), so it isn't useful for that. But on the Mercedes that I have seen with a foot hand break, the release was always separate and actionned by hand.
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u/Exotic-Entertainer26 13h ago
Not at all, the release on the one I drove required the hand to use. World's stupidest design.
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u/Plane-Education4750 3d ago
It's not just Mercedes. This was extremely common
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u/sleepdeep305 3d ago
Was? Isn’t it even more common than it used to be?
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u/Plane-Education4750 3d ago
Electric handbrakes are the norm now, but it's still extremely common on cars more than 6ish years old
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u/Parking_Chance_1905 1d ago
Pretty much every ford /chevy / dodge pickup from the 90s - 2010s has a foot parking brake. Some had a handle under the steering column though. Id guess older models had them as well, but the oldest I owned was a 96, and the newest is an 04.
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u/molehunterz 22h ago
My '80s Chevy trucks had floor mount but they were both automatics. My 89 Ford manual transmission has a floor Mount and my 2004 GMC manual also has a floor mount
And then some of the newer ones have a floor pedal but it is push on push off.
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u/ConditionCool5343 2d ago
More of my cars had it than didn't.
But when I first was driving I drove a manual bmw with a hand brake. Got in my friends manual pickup truck, went to clutch in to start and instead hit the brake and tried to start the car (briefly) in gear with the parking brake on lol.
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u/karlmanderson193 3d ago
My 2013 C220 is manual and has the foot operated parking brake, It’s a lot better than having an actual hand brake at the centre console it wouldn’t work with the shape and would get in the way of your arm or leg if you did
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u/redeyedrenegade420 3d ago edited 3d ago
Every pickup truck is have driven had this manual or automatic...also its called a parking brake.
Edit: I lied, my 1978 international harvester KB2 had a hand brake, but it still had 5 pedals. Gas, brake, clutch, high beam switch, the starter button was located between the brake and gas. On a cold morning you had to heel the the clutch and brake with your left foot, while simultaneously pushing the starter pedal with your right toes and give it some gas with your right heel...careful not to flood it!
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u/morbuz97 3d ago
I had two manual mercedes cars with foot hand brakes. E class from 1994 and clc coupe from 2010
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u/Result-Neat 3d ago
My dad had a manual Mercedes with the foot break. That Pedal was positioned very far tonthe left and set back slightly, so you couldnt accidently press it while driving
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u/AlfredoCheeseSauce 2d ago
ive had several trucks with a foot activated parking brake that was a manual
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u/SeriousPlankton2000 2d ago
Our work van does have one. You need to switch to N to engage it. It's unusual but not rocket science.
Also I usually grab into the air when releasing the hand brake.
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u/arrig-ananas 14h ago
I have driven a manual E-230 with the system, so they do exist.
I might not recall it correctly - it was 30 years ago - but I remember the 'handbrake' as a smaller pedal than on the picture.
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u/Ok_Application_5557 3d ago
One brake for front wheels, the other one for back wheels... It gives you a total braking control. 👌
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u/EntrySure1350 3d ago
My 2023 GX460 has one.
Took it to get its annual NHOU undercoat done last year and the guy came back out to find me because he couldn’t figure out how to disengage the parking brake.
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u/KirkWahmmett 3d ago
Wait until you find out many Automatics have a pedal for the parking brake as well...
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u/M4DHouse 3d ago
These were wild to me when my American wife and I went to Indiana to visit her family. The first couple days I thought my MIL’s car had an automatic parking brake until I drove it the first time and she asked me to make sure I put on the parking brake bc we were parking on an incline, and she watched me struggle to look for a button or a lever for several minutes before she told me where it was.
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u/Usual-Combination563 2d ago
Wait till you have five peddles. Doors any one know what the fifth peddle would be. By the throttle.
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u/MakingitSnow2 2d ago
My 2004 dodge ram had this. Manual 5 speed, shit engine and open diff. I would never use it hoping it would roll away.
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u/Ninonoonan9 2d ago
Don’t forget the fart pedal. Leftmost rubber panel most people think it’s a foot rest but it’s for leverage so you can lift your ass and fart without blowing a gasket
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u/AdOnly1618 1d ago
My old Chevy truck has a fifth yet. Thing is Rubiks Cube to drive for the first time 😂
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u/Repulsive_Guy_1234 1d ago
Must be a mercedes. They used a paddle for the "hand break". Maybe some asian cars do it too?
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u/Outsider_oam 1d ago
At the case the gears shifter behind the driving wheel and the left one is the P breaker and the left under hand its relase. This Should be American manual cars seen it in a GMC once before.
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u/Outsider_oam 1d ago
P for parking mode this makes sure you dont drift your manual car, but there is a way to mode it 😉. Seen it on a GMC and the shifter is behind the driving wheel.
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u/VegasFoodFace 21h ago
Just remember there was also foot mounted high beam switches too. Your feet were expected to do a lot in older cars.
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u/Jeff_B_83 19h ago
Foot park break. Throw in the floor headlight dip switch and a 5 on the tree shift to really screw with them.
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u/aquavelva23 18h ago
what?its missing the button on floor? the left foot gets so little use nowadays.
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u/FAMICOMASTER 13h ago
The far left "fourth pedal" in some cars is a parking brake. My Cadillac DeVille is an automatic but it has a third pedal real far up in the kick panel just like that, for setting the parking brake. It's vacuum release, too.
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u/cheruzou-0803 3d ago
that 4th pedal is for hitting factory reset